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Is it possible, yes however I give that possibility about .001% chance at this point.
Because to be truthful we have nothing better to do than withhold devices we know customers really want (9900) and instead force them to have devices they don't like (9810 and 9860).
So to be brutally honest I am not conviced yet that is a big deal. If I look at this from a marketing perspective (which hurts me to do because I am not a marketing guy...) I see the 9810 which has a love hate relationship with customers. People either really like that form or they really hate it, there isn't much middle ground. So that leaves the 9860 and the 9900, sales VPs may have made the leap that the 9860 with OS7 will be a much sexier device than the 9900. Having used the 9860 for a week now I can understand how that conclusion would be drawn. Lastly the 9900 is slightly larger but generally looks like a blackberry and while RIM is calling this a flagship device general customer perception may be that this is just another blackberry...
I don't usually defend all the garbage my company does but in this instance I am not entirely certain they are wrong. Once I get my hands on the 9900 I will say for certain....
PG08-06-11 08:31 PM - The 9900 has been the most sought after form factor for quite some time now, there has yet to be a preumim device on the market that combines a touch screen with a great keyboard. Releasing a device 2 months after every other carrier in the US releases it is a BIG deal in my opinion as well as most of the people who are on AT&T eagerly awaiting this device.Is it possible, yes however I give that possibility about .001% chance at this point.
Because to be truthful we have nothing better to do than withhold devices we know customers really want (9900) and instead force them to have devices they don't like (9810 and 9860).
So to be brutally honest I am not conviced yet that is a big deal. If I look at this from a marketing perspective (which hurts me to do because I am not a marketing guy...) I see the 9810 which has a love hate relationship with customers. People either really like that form or they really hate it, there isn't much middle ground. So that leaves the 9860 and the 9900, sales VPs may have made the leap that the 9860 with OS7 will be a much sexier device than the 9900. Having used the 9860 for a week now I can understand how that conclusion would be drawn. Lastly the 9900 is slightly larger but generally looks like a blackberry and while RIM is calling this a flagship device general customer perception may be that this is just another blackberry...
I don't usually defend all the garbage my company does but in this instance I am not entirely certain they are wrong. Once I get my hands on the 9900 I will say for certain....
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Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.comLast edited by blanc71; 08-06-11 at 08:50 PM.
08-06-11 08:46 PM - AT&T already seems to be forcing people to buy the Torch, they don't sell the 9780 for some reason.Because to be truthful we have nothing better to do than withhold devices we know customers really want (9900) and instead force them to have devices they don't like (9810 and 9860).
So to be brutally honest I am not conviced yet that is a big deal. If I look at this from a marketing perspective (which hurts me to do because I am not a marketing guy...) I see the 9810 which has a love hate relationship with customers. People either really like that form or they really hate it, there isn't much middle ground. So that leaves the 9860 and the 9900, sales VPs may have made the leap that the 9860 with OS7 will be a much sexier device than the 9900. Having used the 9860 for a week now I can understand how that conclusion would be drawn. Lastly the 9900 is slightly larger but generally looks like a blackberry and while RIM is calling this a flagship device general customer perception may be that this is just another blackberry...
I don't usually defend all the garbage my company does but in this instance I am not entirely certain they are wrong. Once I get my hands on the 9900 I will say for certain....
PG08-06-11 09:51 PM - LMAO this honestly makes me laugh....do you honestly think RIM tell teh networks when and how to launch their phones??...they dont, the build the phones and send them out to the network then its down to the network to release for their subscriber base
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RIM has absolutely no part in networks release date, thats something i learned from someone here a few mths ago....RIM doesnt control networks launch date.
Of course if im wrong then someone please correct me.08-07-11 08:08 AM - Apple does!LMAO this honestly makes me laugh....do you honestly think RIM tell teh networks when and how to launch their phones??...they dont, the build the phones and send them out to the network then its down to the network to release for their subscriber base...
RIM has absolutely no part in networks release date, thats something i learned from someone here a few mths ago....RIM doesnt control networks launch date.
Of course if im wrong then someone please correct me.
08-07-11 08:12 AM - Nope, you're right. RIM builds and ships the devices then it's up to each carrier to release them when they see fit.LMAO this honestly makes me laugh....do you honestly think RIM tell teh networks when and how to launch their phones??...they dont, the build the phones and send them out to the network then its down to the network to release for their subscriber base...
RIM has absolutely no part in networks release date, thats something i learned from someone here a few mths ago....RIM doesnt control networks launch date.
Of course if im wrong then someone please correct me.08-07-11 08:13 AM - Apple isn't telling AT&T anything. It's not like the 9900 will sell more units than the iPhone 5 in all honesty.
Because it's too much like the 9700. Very little difference between the two is the reason.
I agree completely, RIM has no say so in when carriers release. They try and put pressure on them, but ultimately it's up to the carriers of course.LMAO this honestly makes me laugh....do you honestly think RIM tell teh networks when and how to launch their phones??...they dont, the build the phones and send them out to the network then its down to the network to release for their subscriber base...
RIM has absolutely no part in networks release date, thats something i learned from someone here a few mths ago....RIM doesnt control networks launch date.
Of course if im wrong then someone please correct me.08-07-11 08:16 AM - We'll have to agree to disagree on this point...
not sure how many times I have to say this is not true but its not true...
I haven't seen the 9900 hardware yet, its due out of the lab this week I believe but I believe it should be the same hardware as Rogers.
Absolutely correct.LMAO this honestly makes me laugh....do you honestly think RIM tell teh networks when and how to launch their phones??...they dont, the build the phones and send them out to the network then its down to the network to release for their subscriber base...
RIM has absolutely no part in networks release date, thats something i learned from someone here a few mths ago....RIM doesnt control networks launch date.
Of course if im wrong then someone please correct me.
Apple is the only carrier allowed to control the release date of its product. As much as we may want RIM to be the top player Apple is the fact remains that they are not.Apple does!
I also agree that 9900 will outsell 9810 but it won't be anything like ten fold. And I will say now that I expect 9860 to outsell 9900 on at&ts network...
PG08-07-11 10:31 AM - Thanks for the great information. I would agree that the 9860 will outsell the 9900.We'll have to agree to disagree on this point...
not sure how many times I have to say this is not true but its not true...
I haven't seen the 9900 hardware yet, its due out of the lab this week I believe but I believe it should be the same hardware as Rogers.
Absolutely correct.
Apple is the only carrier allowed to control the release date of its product. As much as we may want RIM to be the top player Apple is the fact remains that they are not.
I also agree that 9900 will outsell 9810 but it won't be anything like ten fold. And I will say now that I expect 9860 to outsell 9900 on at&ts network...
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