[JohnAlpha]

Its the same screen size and resolution as the original bold 9000. I don't think you'll see much difference.

The resolution on the Bold 9000 is 480 x 320.

Bold Specs - Specifications for BlackBerry Bold 9650, 9700, 9000

The resolution on the Bold Touch will be 640 x 480.

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[abass]

Its the same screen size and resolution as the original bold 9000. I don't think you'll see much difference. The only thing the bold touch will allow you to do is pinch-zoom. Which can get annoying really fast if you have to do it constantly (if you have ipod or iphone, you'll know what I mean).

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They said above how you were wrong about the resolution.. But "the only thing the bold touch will allow you to do is pinch-zoom"? you are kidding right...? lmao

Not to mention, you are making it sound like there is no more track pad and the touch screen is going to "replace" the trackpad which it is not in the slightest.. It will just make things easier for simple tasks that are otherwise a pain using the trackpad.. Why are so many people acting so negatively towards the touchscreen.. seriously, IMO it was one of the smartest moves they made for the bold line..

[dooodads]

I could see a legitimate concern with accidentally selecting things at the bottom of the touchscreen when using the trackpad. If you're planning on using the device like a previous BB and ignoring the touchscreen, being able to disable it would be nice to avoid little annoyances like that.

I think it's important to remember there's a difference between being close-minded and just having different preferences. Not everyone is going to see things the same way or have the same needs...

But I think that's kind of pushing it or reaching unless you have the biggest thumb ever.

[mz7590]

well im upgrading from a Curve 8520...so i DEFINITLY need a new bberry

[JohnAlpha]

But I think that's kind of pushing it or reaching unless you have the biggest thumb ever.

Is it? Android Central occasionally ran into similar problems with the capacitive buttons on the Droid Pro when typing.

http://www.androidcentral.com/droid-...ressions-video

Until people have a chance to use it, we can't know for sure if that or other issues could arise. I personally have no issue with the touchscreen and wouldn't want to disable it. I just don't think you should be so quick to judge others for having reservations.

[dooodads]

Yeah but the capacitive buttons are basically on the screen, there's no division. They are also VERY tiny. Just not buying it.

[abass]

Yeah but the capacitive buttons are basically on the screen, there's no division. They are also VERY tiny. Just not buying it.

Yeah, I mean look at the two phones.. on the droid, your entire top row of keys that you will be using A LOT are right by the touch sensitive buttons, whereas on a blackberry, the trackpad and those buttons are what is close to the screen and they are much larger buttons. I see where that guys point is about accidentally hitting the screen, but that phone compared to this blackberry, I don't think you will have any problems at all.. They are build so completely different.

[JohnAlpha]

Yeah but the capacitive buttons are basically on the screen, there's no division. They are also VERY tiny. Just not buying it.

That's fine; you don't have to agree. Making negative generalizations about those who disagree with you is just in poor taste, though.

[jebulls]

I planned on picking up the bt (assuming the browsing speeds are close to iphone) on a one year contract to wait for QNX, but sounds like this will not be an option!
http://Verizon nixing one-year contr...androidcentral

[contender]

They said above how you were wrong about the resolution.. But "the only thing the bold touch will allow you to do is pinch-zoom"? you are kidding right...? lmao

Not to mention, you are making it sound like there is no more track pad and the touch screen is going to "replace" the trackpad which it is not in the slightest.. It will just make things easier for simple tasks that are otherwise a pain using the trackpad.. Why are so many people acting so negatively towards the touchscreen.. seriously, IMO it was one of the smartest moves they made for the bold line..

No, you missed my point or I didn't word it properly. The bold touch is a huge upgrade from current blackberry. And I love the fact that they added the touch screen, it makes its highly efficient than using track-pad on certain scenarios.

I was referring to zoom to pinch when it came to reading, because the previous poster was mentioning about using it to mostly read ebooks or website articles. This is where the small screen will be ineffective and he'll have to constantly use to pinch to zoom feature.

[abass]

No, you missed my point or I didn't word it properly. The bold touch is a huge upgrade from current blackberry. And I love the fact that they added the touch screen, it makes its highly efficient than using track-pad on certain scenarios.

I was referring to zoom to pinch when it came to reading, because the previous poster was mentioning about using it to mostly read ebooks or website articles. This is where the small screen will be ineffective and he'll have to constantly use to pinch to zoom feature.

oh yea, well that is true, but at the same time double clicking the track pad will still do the same thing as it does now, it isn't a necessity to use the pinch to zoom at all times as it isn't now. GOD I want this phone right now

[abass]

Sooo finally giving some love to us Verizon Users.

Bold 9650 came out for us but got instantly upgraded with the 9780 on at&t and the torch only being available on at&t as well, but specs come out showing that the torch 2 only has 512MB of RAM whereas the Bold Touch has 768MB of RAM.

I don't quite get why they did that, but I am happy that they decided to not cut out the bold touch, but rather the torch 2 :P

Anyone think that the extra 256MB of RAM will make that much of a difference between the two phones? or not really?

256MB of ram doesn't sound like too much, but when you look at it from the standpoint that it went up by 150%, that is a pretty big increase.

Thoughts, comments, ideas?

[xanadome]

PB to me looks like a bi-product when RIM is rushing the QNX (whatever it is) adaptation into much smaller devices. They have to show that QNX is coming. My intuition (as a non-expert) is that "decent" level of handset with QNX might be a long way away. I read somewhere that even the PB is a half finished product while RIM is planning a lot of patches after the release.
So, no interest in PB and no need for it. I might pick up an iPad 2.
Having said that, the rumoured lines of next generation handsets are far more interesting and look useful.
RIM was simply hustled by Apple for early release of tablet, but I thought they should have spent more time on releasing the next generation handsets much earlier.

[Skeevecr]

I don't quite get why they did that, but I am happy that they decided to not cut out the bold touch, but rather the torch 2 :P

Anyone think that the extra 256MB of RAM will make that much of a difference between the two phones? or not really?

256MB of ram doesn't sound like too much, but when you look at it from the standpoint that it went up by 150%, that is a pretty big increase.

We don't know for sure when each set of leaked specs were from originally, by now it might be that all their premium products are 768mb now and those new curves are the only ones with 512mb.

[Skeevecr]

PB to me looks like a bi-product when RIM is rushing the QNX (whatever it is) adaptation into much smaller devices. They have to show that QNX is coming. My intuition (as a non-expert) is that "decent" level of handset with QNX might be a long way away. I read somewhere that even the PB is a half finished product while RIM is planning a lot of patches after the release.

Patches that add more features are just fine by me and you have to assume that they won't leave out anything as major as multitasking like a certain company did.

RIM was simply hustled by Apple for early release of tablet, but I thought they should have spent more time on releasing the next generation handsets much earlier.

There is actually a more logical reason why they decided to release a tablet first, with a wifi-only model tablet they don't have to worry about rushing the integration of the wireless radio nor having the release date being in the control of the carrier release process so they can concentrate on other areas to start with.

[xanadome]

There is actually a more logical reason why they decided to release a tablet first, with a wifi-only model tablet they don't have to worry about rushing the integration of the wireless radio nor having the release date being in the control of the carrier release process so they can concentrate on other areas to start with.

Yes, I do agree with it. I always thought that it is going to be a long way before RIM can adapt QNX in handheld size. They have to go through this tablet step anyway. But even so, they did not see that the tablet market was created and is progressing so fast. It was only a few months ago RIM was still struggling with the power management (i.e., battery life) for instance.

I think it's probably decent now but just so difficult to convince myself buying this thing over other more mature tablets.

If anything, as far as RIM goes, I am far more interested in the next handhelds. And with MiFi hotspot, it can be used with any tablets with WiFi capability. QNX, QNX as if it's a godsend solve-it-all thing but I do not see the PB particularly advantageous over its competitions just because of QNX.

Not meaning to discredit RIM's effort. Just wondering what's so special about PB after all :-).
Waiting for Dakota.

[unity04]

It's up to you if you want to skip, but I don't see why you would.. 2012 is a looonnnnggggggggg time away... especially in phone years... I remember waiting 3 months for the Atrix to come out.. felt like forever.. but if you can go a year, then go ahead lol however there's no certainty when RIM will release a phone with that OS.. I'd assume mid-late 2012.. not worth the wait.. especially with 2012 doomsday around the corner... i kid.. get the bold touch

[contender]

It's up to you if you want to skip, but I don't see why you would.. 2012 is a looonnnnggggggggg time away... especially in phone years... I remember waiting 3 months for the Atrix to come out.. felt like forever.. but if you can go a year, then go ahead lol however there's no certainty when RIM will release a phone with that OS.. I'd assume mid-late 2012.. not worth the wait.. especially with 2012 doomsday around the corner... i kid.. get the bold touch

I know, ill just wait to check it out when it hits the stores. Until then ill hope playbook can keep me satisfied. I'm just really hoping they come out with version 3 of this phone with qnx on it.

But I been waiting years for the 9000 to have an upgraded spec.

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[eve6er69]

I love my 9650 and she's running strong. I have no need for the touch but that doesn't mean that I don't want it. I prob won't get it and just wait for a qnx phone to drop and maybe a better battery. I have to much time and accessories invested in my 9650 to give her up in a year. She's a good egg

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[mountainman]

I love my 9650 and she's running strong. I have no need for the touch but that doesn't mean that I don't want it. I prob won't get it and just wait for a qnx phone to drop and maybe a better battery. I have to much time and accessories invested in my 9650 to give her up in a year. She's a good egg

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Same boat as you. I'll wait until the Highlander/QNX devices come out. I definitely want one though...... I'm afraid to play with it in the store because then I just know it would be on my mind, and I would break down and get it.

The other thing that may dictate getting this device is the adoption of NFC. As it gets more popular, it is definitely something I'm interested in. And not a new battery door with NFC embedded in it. I would want it integrated into the device.

[eve6er69]

I really dont see the big de with NFC. Doesn't seem that cool to me.

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[Snipperdo17]

I really dont see the big de with NFC. Doesn't seem that cool to me.

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same here. I will be interested in mobile payments using NFC but I can't see it being supported and used for atleast another few years.

[JohnAlpha]

I really dont see the big de with NFC. Doesn't seem that cool to me.

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I'll also agree with this. Maybe I just haven't seen the different possibilities with it, but it doesn't seem all that useful or interesting to me so far.

[Shake]

A few uses I have in mind

Carry Regulatory guides and work documents for quick reference while traveling
Replace my paper planner/organizer
Edit PP, word and Excel docs
View web sites, with flash
Download and respond to emails, with flash
Will become e-book reader
Photographs will be downloaded from camera, or plugged in via HDMI for instant viewing/editing
Will become GPS
Stream or play saved movies while traveling
Video conferencing/chat while traveling
Hopefully remote access, not confirmed yet
*Edit - surf porn while traveling - with flash.... Wheew, almost forgot that one!

Just off the top of my head. And before you say it, you could not easily do anything I stated with a phone.

I miss the keyboard and form factor of the Bold 9000, but like the touch interface, so the Bold touch and the Playbook are going to be a great combo for me..

Anyone else get the impression that porn was first on the list and he just threw everything else for padding?

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[Najo]

And the problem is?