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- Not the most detailed, but this should give you an idea: What Is a BlackBerry Service Book? | eHow.com
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- Sorry, I should have been more clear. The 2 9900's I received from RIM's marketing team were both unlocked & unbranded with Rogers .261... I'm planning on a wipe and putting in .474 today when i wake up. I've been using it on AT&T and my NFC is there to turn on and off but has been useless aside from making an icon on the homescreen11-07-11 02:07 PMLike 0
- Weird that you can turn it on but have no functionality. I'm starting to understand the whole service book thing.
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It hurts to want so badly11-07-11 05:00 PMLike 0 - Having NFC up and working takes more than just having the hardware willing. The data that authorizes NFC has got to have network co-operation, the reason for the service books. If you want NFC, you need to go to another device or carrier as until AT&T allows it, it will not work on your device.
It hurts to want so badly11-07-11 05:06 PMLike 0 - Phill_UKCrackBerry WiseguyIt's down to your phone's Vendor ID which is in turn linked to the OS.
Until AT&T decide to enable NFC, RIM will wite into all OS versions that NFC is disabled on any device with the Vendor ID 102.
It's similar to how some models show 3G, some H+, and some 4G. The carrier decides what symbol they want to show on their supplied handsets, and RIM write that into the OS to suit.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com11-07-11 05:10 PMLike 0 - It's down to your phone's Vendor ID which is in turn linked to the OS.
Until AT&T decide to enable NFC, RIM will wite into all OS versions that NFC is disabled on any device with the Vendor ID 102.
It's similar to how some models show 3G, some H+, and some 4G. The carrier decides what symbol they want to show on their supplied handsets, and RIM write that into the OS to suit.Finally an answer that makes sense!
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Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com11-07-11 09:13 PMLike 0 - Folks, I've said from the start that this would not have nfc at release. at&t has not tested it, and it won't roll out until it is tested.
Yes there are a few people that want this service. Right now that is about .001% of the customer base. There is no demand for it in the US yet, calling at&t and requesting it is fine but understand that it will be several months at least before you see it..
PG11-07-11 09:34 PMLike 0 - A lot of great information in this thread - thanks to everyone who contributed.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com11-08-11 09:34 AMLike 0 - Phill_UKCrackBerry WiseguyI originally thought NFC might be service book dependent until I checked mine, and compared them to those on my 9780... and other than the additional carrier bloatware games, they were identical.
The NFC hardware is on your phones, and the software to operate it is present in the OS... it's just disabled in the coding through your device's Vendor ID
Unfortunately there's nothing you can do until AT&T decide to enable it
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com11-08-11 09:44 AMLike 0 - Phill_UKCrackBerry Wiseguy
Just press Alt + Right Shift + H to find yours... AT&T should be 102
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com11-08-11 06:51 PMLike 0 - To go back to what I was asking before, where is the rule that AT&T's vendor ID does not install (or blocks) NFC? Is the rule in the actual device firmware? Or is it in the released versions of the OS in Apploader or some other COD for 440 and beyond? The reason I'm asking this is that I'm wondering if this 'rule' was newly placed in 440 and didn't exist for the original OSs that were released. If it does exist in Apploader, can the older versions of the OS load onto the phone and then a hybrid made? (i.e. Old OSs that RIM released prior to AT&T's no NFC rule was made, when RIM might have thought that AT&T would allow NFC)
Anyways, I'm just asking out of curiosity. I'm eligible for an upgrade and am trying to decide to go with AT&T's 9900 or possibly get an unlocked Rogers phone. Plus I'm waiting to see what the white version looks like in person.Last edited by frankrig; 11-09-11 at 03:31 PM.
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