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  1. hammman's Avatar
    Would a 9900 owner chime in here and let us know App memory, Apps uploaded and using and amount of circling clock time that has occurred?
    08-11-11 05:46 PM
  2. sH1fty1985's Avatar
    Talking at the bellstore today, apparently there is going to be a software update in the near future for the bold. to allow application data from the micro sd card.

    Confirm/deny?
    I'm just saying what 3 people told me today, because I was a little bit disappointed with the amount of room I got.
    08-11-11 07:12 PM
  3. Raptor007's Avatar
    9000 - 128mb
    9700 - 256mb
    9800 - 512mb
    9900 - 768mb

    Where is the problem? You gonna keep the phone for 10 years or switch it out after 2 or 3 years?

    Thought so.
    Who keeps a phone for 2-3 years, I'm lucky if I keep it for 6 months. My outgoing Droid 3 (I am going BB again) lasted 6 weeks.
    08-11-11 10:10 PM
  4. noangelx's Avatar
    I deleted all the 60+ documents that came preloaded in my documents to go... Now I'm at 198.8 free app space...
    And 6.1 media storage.
    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Last edited by noangelx; 08-11-11 at 10:25 PM.
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    08-11-11 10:12 PM
  5. Kuttysark's Avatar
    Bold 9900 and 9930 are supposed to have 8gb (so more like 7.8) of media storage. the total space that shows up is 6.2, of which 200 megs is used for preloaded pics music and video. We are still unable to account for 1.6 gb of storage, Where did it and what was it used for?
    08-12-11 12:00 AM
  6. johndoe086's Avatar
    Bold 9900 and 9930 are supposed to have 8gb (so more like 7.8) of media storage. the total space that shows up is 6.2, of which 200 megs is used for preloaded pics music and video. We are still unable to account for 1.6 gb of storage, Where did it and what was it used for?

    Here is how the space is allocated.

    8GB before format, so after format you will be left with 7.4GB (this is the number you would see before allocation).

    Of the 7.4GB:

    6.2GB allocated for Media storage

    Swap file for the OS - about 400MB
    OS files - about another 400MB
    Application storage - about another 400MB

    Hope this helps answer all the questions.

    So, 188MB should be plenty for installing all the useful apps, you can free up around 40MB to 50MB by removing all languages that you don't need.

    Note: For large 3d games like the roller coaster game, most of the data is stored on the SD Card, only a very very small amount is stored in the application storage area.
    Last edited by johndoe086; 08-12-11 at 01:10 AM.
    08-12-11 01:06 AM
  7. 17.michal's Avatar
    Here is how the space is allocated.

    8GB before format, so after format you will be left with 7.4GB (this is the number you would see before allocation).

    Of the 7.4GB:

    6.2GB allocated for Media storage

    Swap file for the OS - about 400MB
    OS files - about another 400MB
    Application storage - about another 400MB

    Hope this helps answer all the questions.

    So, 188MB should be plenty for installing all the useful apps, you can free up around 40MB to 50MB by removing all languages that you don't need.

    Note: For large 3d games like the roller coaster game, most of the data is stored on the SD Card, only a very very small amount is stored in the application storage area.
    Completely agree here, i got rid of the extras that I don't use/need, installed about 8 apps I use and am sitting at 217mb free....more than plenty in most cases...
    08-12-11 01:43 AM
  8. KingKuba's Avatar
    Who keeps a phone for 2-3 years, I'm lucky if I keep it for 6 months. My outgoing Droid 3 (I am going BB again) lasted 6 weeks.
    Most people do.

    Americans keep them for 2 years.

    Canadians for 3 years.

    People like you are a very small %

    Other countries like Finland, average "keep" is 5 years.
    08-12-11 10:45 AM
  9. rsxsniper's Avatar
    08-12-11 01:01 PM
  10. dkonigs's Avatar
    That article actually explains a lot, including why you only see 6.2GB of built-in media space. On older phones, from what I could tell via block diagrams posted online, the "Application Memory" was actually a separate chip from the eMMC. On this phone, it looks like its now a partition with the eMMC itself. (But, due to the legacy architecture of the platform, its probably still treated like it were a separate chip within the OS.)

    My best guess is that in the past, eMMC was slow enough that they needed a special dedicated higher-speed flash chip for application memory. That may no longer be the case here.
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    08-12-11 01:18 PM
  11. barrist's Avatar
    In other words, its entirely possible to have large 3d games with the app memory since the heavy stuff would be downloaded separately (much like many large Android games I found) to the internal storage. If you only fill up your space with regular BB apps, its more than enough imo. I still have 230mb left (shrunk) after downloading every app i'd want for now.
    08-12-11 01:37 PM
  12. grover5's Avatar
    This just makes me want the 9900 that much more. It's cool they explained it.
    08-12-11 01:42 PM
  13. howarmat's Avatar
    right no one is denying that this cant be done but the app makers will have to do this. Its still not the same as the user just being able to move and run the apps from a sd card or something. Its still just a small amount available but 97% of the users will be fine with 180 MBs because like stated OS 7 development probably wont expand to the point where all the apps are 4-5 MBs or 3d games and such
    08-12-11 01:43 PM
  14. dkonigs's Avatar
    I think a real solution for this would be for RIM to provide an official way of "install the non-code bulk data for your app to the eMMC/SDcard filesystem". Right now, your app basically has to self-implement this by opening a network connection and downloading the content after its been installed.

    The actual "compiled code" segment of any application, even seemingly massive ones, is actually quite small. The limits RIM mentions are really not a problem at all, if that's all you're restricting with them.
    08-12-11 01:50 PM
  15. lnichols's Avatar
    Thanks for posting the link to this. I'm glad to see that RIM can load data that apps use in the regular storage space and not the app space. Also never knew about the 16MB limit for Blackberry apps.
    08-12-11 02:15 PM
  16. Sharma15's Avatar
    That was a great article and helped me out with understanding the actual uses of the memory. Brilliant that RIM looked into actually expanding their app memory for high end games!
    08-12-11 03:31 PM
  17. Sharma15's Avatar
    Wow, shows 118MB on that screenshot! Wowie, wonder what they have installed on there. I've got a number of apps on my 9900 and still have 236MB free.

    Did a wipe and clean install of Vodafone .296, removed all the junk I never use and have plenty of room.
    I did the same thing haha i had over 320mb when i used an os6 shrinking tool but i realized i lost some cool features like compass and other tools i used on the 9900, soo i just put ina clean instal and will notw down deatures i doont use at all and delete them within a week or two
    08-12-11 03:43 PM
  18. DJLILM's Avatar
    RIM must of seen this thread

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
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    08-12-11 03:48 PM
  19. Rwil85's Avatar
    hey, don't know if anyone remembers or if it even applies here..

    I used to own a BB 9650..there used to be guides for what was 'safe' to shrink out of an OS..such as - safe fonts, stock themes, ringtones, etc that you could remove without inhibiting function or even 'bricking' the device.

    my BB 9930 should arrive tmrw..does this apply here?
    09-11-11 07:56 PM
  20. Bla1ze's Avatar
    This is such a non-issue, I have no idea how this thread got to 15 pages.
    09-11-11 08:06 PM
  21. Rwil85's Avatar
    This is such a non-issue, I have no idea how this thread got to 15 pages.
    haha..good to hear.

    however, maybe you could shed some light on my question posted above as that still comes in to play when shrinking? TIA!
    09-11-11 08:25 PM
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