12-21-11 05:03 AM
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  1. ojahr's Avatar
    Hi folks,
    I have been using an old Bold 9000 for some time - without BIS - and I plan to buy a 9900. My main concern is that I need an integrated email client which works seemless with the other applications on the phone - i.e beeing recognized as THE or an email client using POP or IMAP. Without BIS I could not set up the native email client and I currently use LogicMain. It works OK, but not seemless. Is there a way around this? Or is there a way I set up the native e-mail client to work with POP and IMAP without BIS or BES under OS7?
    12-19-11 01:55 PM
  2. berry4eva's Avatar
    maybe OP only need the physical keyboard
    12-19-11 02:23 PM
  3. adicktuz's Avatar
    Just like what byul said, a BlackBerry without BIS/BES is useless.
    12-19-11 02:40 PM
  4. lostOzone's Avatar
    BB is meant for BES that's why so many businesses still use it. Without BES It loose its only edge software wise. Then you're only left with the keyboard. Without BES I would have given up BB for now.
    12-19-11 05:59 PM
  5. melander's Avatar
    A BlackBerry without BES/BIS is a fine platform.

    I have BIS and rarely use that email directly and prefer to use Logicmail most of the time
    due to it being a direct connection between my phone and provider.

    But there is no further integration of the email applications.
    12-19-11 07:25 PM
  6. palomartian's Avatar
    The thread title is a tease!
    12-19-11 07:56 PM
  7. kazin's Avatar
    I used a Curve 8900 for a long time without data. Wifi at school/home and the keyboard was great for texting. I have data now, but I don't think it's necessary to have it.
    12-19-11 08:09 PM
  8. Phill_UK's Avatar
    I used a Curve 8900 for a long time without data. Wifi at school/home and the keyboard was great for texting. I have data now, but I don't think it's necessary to have it.
    That was before RIM closed the loopholes.

    A BB data plan is essential now on newer devices, even for wifi use.
    12-19-11 08:18 PM
  9. azukre's Avatar
    Hi folks,

    I have been using an old Bold 9000 for some time - without BIS - and I plan to buy a 9900. My main concern is that I need an integrated email client which works seemless with the other applications on the phone - i.e beeing recognized as THE or an email client using POP or IMAP. Without BIS I could not set up the native email client and I currently use LogicMain. It works OK, but not seemless. Is there a way around this? Or is there a way I set up the native e-mail client to work with POP and IMAP without BIS or BES under OS7?

    Get BIS, otherwise go get android or iphone.

    Sent from my BlackBerry 9900
    12-19-11 08:21 PM
  10. palomartian's Avatar
    That was before RIM closed the loopholes.

    A BB data plan is essential now on newer devices, even for wifi use.

    I can surf the net on my 9800 with no SIM card installed.
    12-19-11 08:34 PM
  11. Phill_UK's Avatar
    I can surf the net on my 9800 with no SIM card installed.
    So can I on my 9790... because I already have the necessary service books stored.

    Without a BB data plan that wouldn't be possible, especially on an OS7 device.
    12-19-11 08:40 PM
  12. dopke's Avatar
    I've used my 9700 without BIS for 2+ years. Works great for what I need. Phone, text, e-mail (via Gmail app), "gps" (via Google maps), and browsing for everything else. All I'm missing out on is BBM and getting Apps... but I've gone this 2+ years without them and I'm just fine.
    melander and engrbugs like this.
    12-19-11 08:52 PM
  13. Phill_UK's Avatar
    I've used my 9700 without BIS for 2+ years...
    A 9700 is hardly a 'newer' device. Try that on a 9900 and let us know how you get on
    12-19-11 08:58 PM
  14. gordonzhao's Avatar
    If you're around WIFI a lot just get the Gmail app from m.google.com. Done.
    12-20-11 01:59 AM
  15. lostOzone's Avatar
    I've used my 9700 without BIS for 2+ years. Works great for what I need. Phone, text, e-mail (via Gmail app), "gps" (via Google maps), and browsing for everything else. All I'm missing out on is BBM and getting Apps... but I've gone this 2+ years without them and I'm just fine.
    Out of curiosity what's your battery life like?
    12-20-11 04:07 AM
  16. dopke's Avatar
    Out of curiosity what's your battery life like?
    I usually have to charge every 1.5-2 days, depending on how much I use the google maps app... that's what drains the battery the most I think.
    12-20-11 04:52 AM
  17. infinus's Avatar
    i charge battery every day....
    12-20-11 05:12 AM
  18. quant_BB's Avatar
    I am using 9900 without BIS right now. I am getting it in January though. It's a hit and miss. Gmail app works. Whatsapp. IM+. that's pretty much it. Websites do not load correctly (Linkedin for example, it loads in some kind of HTML ugly version).
    12-20-11 05:45 AM
  19. aazidane's Avatar
    What if I have a data plan but not the blackberry dataplan, would the appworld and the native email still work?
    12-20-11 06:32 AM
  20. Phill_UK's Avatar
    What if I have a data plan but not the blackberry dataplan, would the appworld and the native email still work?
    No, they won't work.
    Last edited by Phill_UK; 12-20-11 at 06:58 AM.
    12-20-11 06:36 AM
  21. ojahr's Avatar
    i'm not sure of that, but a 9900 without BIS or BES is just useless..
    edit: why do actually want a blackberry without BIS/BES? just curious.
    The keyboard and not least the optical track pad. Good "one-hand" tool! I can do the most on my Bold 9000 with Opera, LogicMail and WisePilot..
    12-20-11 06:55 AM
  22. Rootbrian's Avatar
    http://forums.crackberry.com/wifi-di...s-list-462539/

    That should help, a huge list of WIFI only apps. All else, you'll need a blackberry specific data plan. Circumventing=Stealing in my view.

    Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using Tapatalk
    andy957 and aazidane like this.
    12-20-11 11:38 AM
  23. pcgizmo#IM's Avatar
    If you're around WIFI a lot just get the Gmail app from m.google.com. Done.
    LOL....that's a dead link, the app is no longer supported.
    12-20-11 01:13 PM
  24. dopke's Avatar
    A 9700 is hardly a 'newer' device. Try that on a 9900 and let us know how you get on
    Letting you know that I just got my 9900. Already loaded all the same apps I was using. I got on just fine.

    Gmail, Google Sync, Google Maps, and the built-in browser all work.
    12-20-11 03:54 PM
  25. Rootbrian's Avatar
    Letting you know that I just got my 9900. Already loaded all the same apps I was using. I got on just fine.

    Gmail, Google Sync, Google Maps, and the built-in browser all work.
    Assuming they're all apps that use either wifi or carrier data when available.
    12-20-11 04:00 PM
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