[ojahr]

Hi folks,
I have been using an old Bold 9000 for some time - without BIS - and I plan to buy a 9900. My main concern is that I need an integrated email client which works seemless with the other applications on the phone - i.e beeing recognized as THE or an email client using POP or IMAP. Without BIS I could not set up the native email client and I currently use LogicMain. It works OK, but not seemless. Is there a way around this? Or is there a way I set up the native e-mail client to work with POP and IMAP without BIS or BES under OS7?

[berry4eva]

maybe OP only need the physical keyboard

[adicktuz]

Just like what byul said, a BlackBerry without BIS/BES is useless.

[lostOzone]

BB is meant for BES that's why so many businesses still use it. Without BES It loose its only edge software wise. Then you're only left with the keyboard. Without BES I would have given up BB for now.

[melander]

A BlackBerry without BES/BIS is a fine platform.

I have BIS and rarely use that email directly and prefer to use Logicmail most of the time
due to it being a direct connection between my phone and provider.

But there is no further integration of the email applications.

[palomartian]

The thread title is a tease!

[kazin]

I used a Curve 8900 for a long time without data. Wifi at school/home and the keyboard was great for texting. I have data now, but I don't think it's necessary to have it.

[Phill_UK]

I used a Curve 8900 for a long time without data. Wifi at school/home and the keyboard was great for texting. I have data now, but I don't think it's necessary to have it.

That was before RIM closed the loopholes.

A BB data plan is essential now on newer devices, even for wifi use.

[azukre]

Hi folks,

I have been using an old Bold 9000 for some time - without BIS - and I plan to buy a 9900. My main concern is that I need an integrated email client which works seemless with the other applications on the phone - i.e beeing recognized as THE or an email client using POP or IMAP. Without BIS I could not set up the native email client and I currently use LogicMain. It works OK, but not seemless. Is there a way around this? Or is there a way I set up the native e-mail client to work with POP and IMAP without BIS or BES under OS7?

Get BIS, otherwise go get android or iphone.

Sent from my BlackBerry 9900

[palomartian]

That was before RIM closed the loopholes.

A BB data plan is essential now on newer devices, even for wifi use.

I can surf the net on my 9800 with no SIM card installed.

[Phill_UK]

I can surf the net on my 9800 with no SIM card installed.

So can I on my 9790... because I already have the necessary service books stored.

Without a BB data plan that wouldn't be possible, especially on an OS7 device.

[dopke]

I've used my 9700 without BIS for 2+ years. Works great for what I need. Phone, text, e-mail (via Gmail app), "gps" (via Google maps), and browsing for everything else. All I'm missing out on is BBM and getting Apps... but I've gone this 2+ years without them and I'm just fine.

[Phill_UK]

I've used my 9700 without BIS for 2+ years...

A 9700 is hardly a 'newer' device. Try that on a 9900 and let us know how you get on

[gordonzhao]

If you're around WIFI a lot just get the Gmail app from m.google.com. Done.

[lostOzone]

I've used my 9700 without BIS for 2+ years. Works great for what I need. Phone, text, e-mail (via Gmail app), "gps" (via Google maps), and browsing for everything else. All I'm missing out on is BBM and getting Apps... but I've gone this 2+ years without them and I'm just fine.

Out of curiosity what's your battery life like?

[dopke]

Out of curiosity what's your battery life like?

I usually have to charge every 1.5-2 days, depending on how much I use the google maps app... that's what drains the battery the most I think.

[infinus]

i charge battery every day....

[quant_BB]

I am using 9900 without BIS right now. I am getting it in January though. It's a hit and miss. Gmail app works. Whatsapp. IM+. that's pretty much it. Websites do not load correctly (Linkedin for example, it loads in some kind of HTML ugly version).

[aazidane]

What if I have a data plan but not the blackberry dataplan, would the appworld and the native email still work?

[Phill_UK]

What if I have a data plan but not the blackberry dataplan, would the appworld and the native email still work?

No, they won't work.

[ojahr]

i'm not sure of that, but a 9900 without BIS or BES is just useless..
edit: why do actually want a blackberry without BIS/BES? just curious.

The keyboard and not least the optical track pad. Good "one-hand" tool! I can do the most on my Bold 9000 with Opera, LogicMail and WisePilot..

[Rootbrian]

http://forums.crackberry.com/wifi-di...s-list-462539/

That should help, a huge list of WIFI only apps. All else, you'll need a blackberry specific data plan. Circumventing=Stealing in my view.

Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using Tapatalk

[pcgizmo#IM]

If you're around WIFI a lot just get the Gmail app from m.google.com. Done.

LOL....that's a dead link, the app is no longer supported.

[dopke]

A 9700 is hardly a 'newer' device. Try that on a 9900 and let us know how you get on

Letting you know that I just got my 9900. Already loaded all the same apps I was using. I got on just fine.

Gmail, Google Sync, Google Maps, and the built-in browser all work.

[Rootbrian]

Letting you know that I just got my 9900. Already loaded all the same apps I was using. I got on just fine.

Gmail, Google Sync, Google Maps, and the built-in browser all work.

Assuming they're all apps that use either wifi or carrier data when available.