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I am really disappointed at&t is holding up this phone; I am really looking forward to it
my palm pre plus is pretty much the equivalent of what the blackberry storm was for many blackberry users, only with the addition of viva la cheap construction and many "promised" features that were never delivered. For me the natural upgrade would be the Blackberry torch 2 (9810) because it’s the same slider 3.1/3.2 inches, and at&t is ready to push that one out the door, but the Bold just seems like RIM's baby, and there's a reason why it’s their flagship device. It has the 2nd best screen in the whole smartphone industry as far as ppi goes (285ppi which is pretty damn good) while the torch is at 249ppi (which is still fairly decent) but i don’t understand why RIM decided to use the same resolution for a phone that is 4 inches larger. In prerelease videos the bb9900 is buttery smooth and snappy, where the t2 seems to still be working out the quirks (and ironically at&t would approve a phone that looks like it could use a few more months in testing before a phone that looks ready to go) Lastly, the construction of the bb9900 is absolutely stunning. The whole stainless steel, battery cover pattern, large perfected keyboard, beautiful display, it's the real deal. I can't help to say that the torch 2 just doesn't have the perfected attention.
Regardless though, I can't wait to jump to any blackberry. If you guys say that RIM has doom and gloom, just take some time on precentral and you will find RIM isn't as closed off and provincial as you think. For the competition i just don't find andriod appealing based off usage from my friend's phone and videos ( it’s very laggy considering how much "ahead" the hardware is, and software is very unrefined). Iphone my family all has but i can't stand apple's arrogance or their lack of concern for workers’ rights and lives at foxconn. I've tried a WP7 Samsung Focus phone but within 3 days i returned it because I just couldn’t stand the lack of ergonomics (hardware and poorly designed OS) and basic basic features you would expect out of any smartphone. The viva la cheap plastic construction also struck back to me as d�j� vu, so back that phone went.
Sorry for babbling on and on just everyday some new sh*t happens with my pre that makes me want to throw it out the window sometimes yet, there is nothing out that can replace it atm.Last edited by irockster9; 07-30-11 at 01:14 PM.
07-30-11 01:04 PM - AT&T is still punch drunk from iPhone sales....BlackBerry always takes a back seat to Apple...its obviouos. At my local corporate att store, there is 2 walls full of iphones, all connected to wifi and they all have nice ceiling lights pointing down at them....and then, in the back of the store in a dimly lit section, there are 2 BlackBerry's and neither one are connected to wifi, so needless to say everytime I go in there, I turn wifi on
With all the being said; it doesnt surprise me that ATT would push the 9900 back to make room for all the kool - aid kids wanting a regergitated iphone.07-30-11 02:21 PM - But its running at&t 3g. Also in this vid . If these arent att branded does that mean these are a go for at&t reguardless?
They say special thanks to Negri electronics. May look into putting in a pre order there too
Edit: well i pre-ordered there and Clove, will see which one releases first. Negris list 850/19002100 tri-band3g bands on their site( maybe they are releasing just one GSM world wide?) or would that have to be quad band lol heck i dont know lol.Last edited by ratchetjaw; 07-30-11 at 05:33 PM.
07-30-11 05:16 PM - Well it's going to show the network of the sim card. You just need to be careful when purchasing an unbranded device. You want the about screen to say "Bands 1,2,5 & 6". You just need to make sure you don't get the AWS T-Mobile version.But its running at&t 3g. Also in this vid . If these arent att branded does that mean these are a go for at&t reguardless?
They say special thanks to Negri electronics. May look into putting in a pre order there too
Edit: well i pre-ordered there and Clove, will see which one releases first. Negris list 850/19002100 tri-band3g bands on their site( maybe they are releasing just one GSM world wide?) or would that have to be quad band lol heck i dont know lol.
A Rogers branded 9900 will work on AT&T just fine.07-30-11 06:25 PM - sooo, my dilemma is that i'm grandfathered in to att's unlimited data plan so i really don't want to switch carriers.
my going-on-3-years-old bold is on it's last legs...battery dies on me halfway through the day usually.
i'd be tempted to get an unlocked rogers rather then wait another 3 months or so. maybe even otterbox it/treat it with kid gloves until the att version is released, then use my upgrade/new contract for that and sell the rogers on ebay?
the fact that this seems reasonable to me probably means i'm going off the deep end...
07-30-11 07:32 PM - I'm in the same boat - I use a 9000 as well and going to get the Rogers 9900 when it drops.sooo, my dilemma is that i'm grandfathered in to att's unlimited data plan so i really don't want to switch carriers.
my going-on-3-years-old bold is on it's last legs...battery dies on me halfway through the day usually.
i'd be tempted to get an unlocked rogers rather then wait another 3 months or so. maybe even otterbox it/treat it with kid gloves until the att version is released, then use my upgrade/new contract for that and sell the rogers on ebay?
the fact that this seems reasonable to me probably means i'm going off the deep end...07-30-11 07:48 PM - ok a lot to respond to here so bear with me folks...
Lol. Funny how you and I see eye to eye 99.99% of the time.
Actually the at&t process for testing is much more complicated than any other US carrier and most others worldwide. Where we have failures is when our bonehead leadership signs agreements to allow a MFG to skirt that testing process (Apple). Now why is it complicated? it has to be because our network is more complicated than any other carrier. I is a hodgepodge of networks acquired through merger.
Not true. RIM has not produced a unit yet that has passed lab testing for the 9900 device. iPhone 5 has nothing to do with it.
As for 2008 and the "9000 fiasco" I am not sure your memory is entirely clear on the history. I stated there were significant HW issues with this device and only a few believed me here. Went through several different pieces of HW and more SW upgrades than you can imagine. I stated that carriers in Europe were foolish for releasing it with those problems and you know what... I was right, our testing process proved right, and RIM along with the European carriers that rushed the device had to eat a very large % of those early devices...
I am not sure it can be "accelerated" but they will try once we get through lab issues.
T2 is in much better shape since we received final SW about a week ago. It's not my favorite form but it will be a huge improvement over T1.I am really disappointed at&t is holding up this phone; I am really looking forward to it my palm pre plus is pretty much the equivalent of what the blackberry storm was for many blackberry users, only with the addition of viva la cheap construction and many "promised" features that were never delivered. For me the natural upgrade would be the Blackberry torch 2 (9810) because it�s the same slider 3.1/3.2 inches, and at&t is ready to push that one out the door, but the Bold just seems like RIM's baby, and there's a reason why it�s their flagship device. It has the 2nd best screen in the whole smartphone industry as far as ppi goes (285ppi which is pretty damn good) while the torch is at 249ppi (which is still fairly decent) but i don�t understand why RIM decided to use the same resolution for a phone that is 4 inches larger. In prerelease videos the bb9900 is buttery smooth and snappy, where the t2 seems to still be working out the quirks (and ironically at&t would approve a phone that looks like it could use a few more months in testing before a phone that looks ready to go) Lastly, the construction of the bb9900 is absolutely stunning. The whole stainless steel, battery cover pattern, large perfected keyboard, beautiful display, it's the real deal. I can't help to say that the torch 2 just doesn't have the perfected attention.
Regardless though, I can't wait to jump to any blackberry. If you guys say that RIM has doom and gloom, just take some time on precentral and you will find RIM isn't as closed off and provincial as you think. For the competition i just don't find andriod appealing based off usage from my friend's phone and videos ( it�s very laggy considering how much "ahead" the hardware is, and software is very unrefined). Iphone my family all has but i can't stand apple's arrogance or their lack of concern for workers� rights and lives at foxconn. I've tried a WP7 Samsung Focus phone but within 3 days i returned it because I just couldn�t stand the lack of ergonomics (hardware and poorly designed OS) and basic basic features you would expect out of any smartphone. The viva la cheap plastic construction also struck back to me as d�j� vu, so back that phone went.
Sorry for babbling on and on just everyday some new sh*t happens with my pre that makes me want to throw it out the window sometimes yet, there is nothing out that can replace it atm.
Will it work? Sure. However if there are HW changes between when Rogers releases and Att does you may have some annoying network issues...
PG07-31-11 09:11 AM - How likely would it be for them to have HW changes though. I will take my chances. Will get the at&t version whenever it comes in white alsook a lot to respond to here so bear with me folks...
Actually the at&t process for testing is much more complicated than any other US carrier and most others worldwide. Where we have failures is when our bonehead leadership signs agreements to allow a MFG to skirt that testing process (Apple). Now why is it complicated? it has to be because our network is more complicated than any other carrier. I is a hodgepodge of networks acquired through merger.
Not true. RIM has not produced a unit yet that has passed lab testing for the 9900 device. iPhone 5 has nothing to do with it.
As for 2008 and the "9000 fiasco" I am not sure your memory is entirely clear on the history. I stated there were significant HW issues with this device and only a few believed me here. Went through several different pieces of HW and more SW upgrades than you can imagine. I stated that carriers in Europe were foolish for releasing it with those problems and you know what... I was right, our testing process proved right, and RIM along with the European carriers that rushed the device had to eat a very large % of those early devices...
I am not sure it can be "accelerated" but they will try once we get through lab issues.
T2 is in much better shape since we received final SW about a week ago. It's not my favorite form but it will be a huge improvement over T1.
Will it work? Sure. However if there are HW changes between when Rogers releases and Att does you may have some annoying network issues...
PG07-31-11 09:39 AM
