I'll gladly pay for a 9900, it will be the ideal phone for me because of what it will do in the form factor it has and not for any future upgrades that it may or may not receive in the future.
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I'll gladly pay for a 9900, it will be the ideal phone for me because of what it will do in the form factor it has and not for any future upgrades that it may or may not receive in the future.
Not really. The 8900 has the same amount of RAM as the 9700 (256MB), but that one never got OS6. The Tour also has 256MB of RAM, but that never got OS6 either.
Agreed!
Everyone seems to forget though that at this moment Playbook doesn't run QNX with 3G/4G radios. It runs on bluetooth and wifi. When you add radios for GSM/HSPA and/or CDMA/HSPA the battery life and performance will take a hit. Look at current laptops with with wifi & broadband they don't run nearly as efficient as what we're expecting from Playbook and the 9900.
I don't believe that the hardware in that small of form is ready for QNX...
Oh and those pesky 2G/3G/4G radios in a footprint 25% the size...
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I think that this time next year RIM's entire assortment will be QNX.
IMO the new devices coming this fall will all run QNX.
RIM has too good a track record of supporting old stuff. Plus they don't want to force people to wait for QNX hw.
Just keep your expectations low and assume that it won't. Then if RIM does release it for the OS7 devices it will be a bonus. Unfortunately my Tour is old so I really don't think I want to wait till the QNX sets get here to upgrade.
From what I have seen of QNX on the PlayBook, we hope that the 9900 does NOT have QNX.
No way any RIM phone will have QNX this year, they are still a long way from working out the bugs on the PlayBook!
Maybe late 2012 we will see QNX on a phone.
Lets all just hope we see the 9900 in the 4th quarter!
I don't think it will be released by RIM officially this year, but it's going to be within a year for sure.
QNX may have "bugs" and whatnot, but trust me RIM is just getting its feet wet with providing updates/etc.
Give them time. I am by no means a RIM fanboy, in fact I've been very critical of them if you look at my posts. I will say that QNX will be more efficient with the same hardware than current BB JVM-based OS's.
EDIT: Yes I am getting a 9900. My bold 9700 is often left with only 5 MB memory because i keep my messages/texts so the 9900 will allow me to restore my 9000/9700 SMSes and still have memory to spare..
I have been MIA recently until now.
I really like the porsche metaphor because it accurately explains what Rim is doing. Plus, I cannot wait to get the new 991s, which debuts in Sept. Just FYI :D.
While it is a possibility that Rim can use the new processors in lower end models, it is very unlikely since it would mean Rim would have to spend a lot of money to buy new processors. Rim is a business; so saving money and maximizing profits is the utmost important task. Buying dual core processors at this point in time is just not cost effective. Thus, we will be enjoying these processors for years to come. Just look at the Bold 1 processor. It was introduced in 2009 and it is still being used 3 years later.
And the reason why there is such a huge jump between the current torch and the torch 2 is because we are moving to next generation phones. This makes the torch an exception as it doesn't happen very often. I would not expect a huge upgrade for the torch 3 because I don't see Rim releasing another revolutionary product line up after the 9900. Rim is slow and I would not hold my breath for QNX Blackberries since dual cores are not "up to blackberry standards" (per Liz), meaning the cost of dual cores is too high.
What I have bolded is a very big assumption. Knowing Rim and how fast they move, I wouldn't think that they would announce QNX for blackberries next year since OS 7 would be current for only 9 months (assuming Aug release and May QNX BB debut). To me, that is too fast for Rim.
Actually... playing with the 9900 today :x I have a different story.
Yes, big assumption. Here's another way to look at it.
QNX on PB is on dual-core. 1GHz.
The 9900 is a single core.
So... if OS7 makes people think its ground breaking OS (which...... isn't really, just 6.1 renamed), then they can sell a ton. 9-12 mths later, put a phone out with QNX on it. Now all us BlackBerry addicts will be just banging our heads on the wall... since the hardware (despite its really good), isn't compatible with the dual-core stuff :3 They could... but they need to sell hardware :P
Afterall, they need to sell hardware. It's hard to think RIM will do this to you, leave you high and dry.. but they did it to the Torch, and the Storm lol.
Though, I could say the keyboard is 9900 > 9000 > 9700 (yes, I enjoy the 9000 kb more, but definitely the 9900 more).
For those that played with the 9900. What do you think about the KB? I personally like the feedback on the 9900. It feels more solid, it feels like the spring is more "metal" than just a plastic feedback.
I personally don't think QNX is anywhere remotely NEARRRRRR ready to come to phones. Isn't the memory footprint of the OS pretty big? It's gonna take a lot of work to streamline the QNX experience onto mobile devices, combine that with RIM's patented slowness and we have ourselves quite a wait. I say Q4 2012 at the earliest, Q3 2013 at the latest. That's just me though.
I'd probably say you are pretty dead on. 9900 isn't even announced, but gotta keep the hardware sales up until QNX kicks in. Unlike the Tablet where you can say "it's their first tablet", you can't say that to a phone. Plus so many people will use it, they better have everything ironed out :3
I definitely agree with you about liking the 9900 kb better, but I am not sure if I would describe the feedback in the same way, to me it felt more fluid and lighter than on my old 9000 that I went and dug out after trying a 9900.
The thing to bear in mind with the qnx stuff is that much of the work for the phones will be done by the various flavours of playbook due out this year and once those are done the main task left will be optimising it for the smaller device so the task isn't such a large one as it would seem to get qnx on phones and I think we'll see them q2/q3 of 2012.
As of now no. But it would be a FANTASTIC decision.