08-05-11 11:36 AM
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  1. UrbanGlowCam's Avatar
    Surprise surprise. It seems CDMA may have won the battle on battery this time around. As a longtime CDMA BB user who always felt like the underdog to the superior GSM devices, I am even more excited to pickup my 9930.



    Edit: Not only that. It seems they have even managed to exceed the battery ratings of the older Bold models in many areas. Even despite the largely upgraded processor and smaller 1230mah battery. Technology....
    Last edited by UrbanGlowCam; 08-03-11 at 04:59 AM.
    08-03-11 04:22 AM
  2. aNYthing24's Avatar
    I think the trade off is worth it seeing the GSM BlackBerry can reach speeds up to 14.4 Mbps down and 5.76 Mbps up. I doubt a CDMA BlackBerry ever touches that since carriers haven't rolled out CDMA Revision B and don't ever intend to.
    08-03-11 04:42 AM
  3. aNYthing24's Avatar
    The 9850/9860 has a much bigger discrepancy in terms of music playback...I wonder why that is.

    9860
    1230 mAh removable/rechargeable lithium-ion battery
    Talk time: Up to 4.7 hours (GSM), up to 6.8 hours (UMTS)1
    Standby time: Up to 13.9 days (GSM), up to 13.5 days (UMTS)
    Music playback: Up to 44 hours
    Video playback: Up to 6.6 hours

    9850
    1230 mAh removable/rechargeable lithium-ion battery
    Talk time: Up to 6.8 hours (CDMA), up to 6.1 hours (UMTS)1
    Standby time: Up to 13.4 days (CDMA), up to 11.8 days (UMTS)
    Music playback: Up to 50.2 hours
    Video playback: Up to 6.6 hours
    08-03-11 04:44 AM
  4. Masahiro's Avatar
    HSPA is far more battery draining than EDGE. I'm guessing HSPA+ is even more battery taxing than before. Long story short, while CDMA may be more battery efficient, it comes at the cost of speed.

    Now what's interesting is when it's compared with the 9780. Check it out:

    9780
    1500 mAHR removable/rechargeable lithium-ion battery (compared to 1230 mAh for the 9900)
    Talk time: Up to 6 hours (GSM or UMTS)
    Standby time: Up to 22 days / 528 hours (GSM), up to 17 days / 408 hours (UMTS)
    Music playback time: Up to 36 hours

    That's with the larger capacity battery and smaller and lower resolution screen.
    Last edited by Masahiro; 08-03-11 at 04:58 AM.
    08-03-11 04:45 AM
  5. aNYthing24's Avatar
    HSPA is far more battery draining than EDGE. I'm guessing HSPA+ is even more battery taxing than before. Long story short, while CDMA may be more battery efficient, it comes at the cost of speed.

    Now what's interesting is when it's compared with the 9780. Check it out:
    I think the GSM version is still far superior due to the download/upload speed capabilities and the fact you can use the internet while being on a call.

    I'm not surprised the 99xx has better battery life. Phones/operating systems are more optimized as they go along.
    08-03-11 04:52 AM
  6. Masahiro's Avatar
    I think the GSM version is still far superior due to the download/upload speed capabilities and the fact you can use the internet while being on a call.
    That is hard to dispute, as most GSM carriers still provide the option of letting you use the 2G EDGE network if battery life is a concern. Its speeds are still comparable to CDMA 3G.
    08-03-11 04:57 AM
  7. UrbanGlowCam's Avatar
    I think the GSM version is still far superior due to the download/upload speed capabilities and the fact you can use the internet while being on a call.

    I'm not surprised the 99xx has better battery life. Phones/operating systems are more optimized as they go along.
    True, but this should not have any effect on ratings like talk time, audio, and video that are unrelated to data speeds.

    GSM's data speed capabilities are definitely superior with these handsets, there is no disputing that.
    08-03-11 05:01 AM
  8. UrbanGlowCam's Avatar
    The 9850/9860 has a much bigger discrepancy in terms of music playback...I wonder why that is.

    9860
    1230 mAh removable/rechargeable lithium-ion battery
    Talk time: Up to 4.7 hours (GSM), up to 6.8 hours (UMTS)1
    Standby time: Up to 13.9 days (GSM), up to 13.5 days (UMTS)
    Music playback: Up to 44 hours
    Video playback: Up to 6.6 hours

    9850
    1230 mAh removable/rechargeable lithium-ion battery
    Talk time: Up to 6.8 hours (CDMA), up to 6.1 hours (UMTS)1
    Standby time: Up to 13.4 days (CDMA), up to 11.8 days (UMTS)
    Music playback: Up to 50.2 hours
    Video playback: Up to 6.6 hours
    I noticed the same thing. Technically the screen is usually off while you are on the phone and/or listening to music. Video playback will definitely drain the 9850/9860's battery life much faster than the 99xx though with its much larger screen.

    As far as the 99xx being inferior in certain areas, all I can imagine is the led lighting throughout the keys. That's probably negligible though.
    08-03-11 05:04 AM
  9. Masahiro's Avatar
    I'm puzzled by the significant drop in standby time across the board (with all newer models) though.
    08-03-11 05:11 AM
  10. UrbanGlowCam's Avatar
    I'm puzzled by the significant drop in standby time across the board (with all newer models) though.
    I noticed that too. But it's really the 9700/9780 that shine in that area. 99xx is close to the 9000/9650.
    08-03-11 05:14 AM
  11. chaseh140's Avatar
    I think the trade off is worth it seeing the GSM BlackBerry can reach speeds up to 14.4 Mbps down and 5.76 Mbps up. I doubt a CDMA BlackBerry ever touches that since carriers haven't rolled out CDMA Revision B and don't ever intend to.
    What are the expected download speeds of the 9930?
    08-03-11 06:02 AM
  12. aNYthing24's Avatar
    What are the expected download speeds of the 9930?
    Rev. A devices usually get 1.5 Mbps down at the most. Not sure about upload, but it's probably in the .5 Mbps range.
    08-03-11 06:17 AM
  13. chaseh140's Avatar
    Well if thats the case I find it hard to believe that a GSM blackberry will get 14 Mbps down.
    08-03-11 06:38 AM
  14. aNYthing24's Avatar
    Well if thats the case I find it hard to believe that a GSM blackberry will get 14 Mbps down.
    That's best case scenario. If you're in an area with good HSPA+ coverage, 7-11 Mbps down and 2-3 Mbps up is completely plausible. That's the type of speeds I get with my Sensation and it has the same radio as the 9900. That's a lot faster than what the 9930 can put out.
    08-03-11 07:19 AM
  15. aNYthing24's Avatar
    Here's some speed test results I have.


    UrbanGlowCam and nycspaces. like this.
    08-03-11 07:23 AM
  16. UrbanGlowCam's Avatar
    Those are some pretty fast speeds Karmaloop. I guess that is where the new GSM BBs really have an edge on the CDMA counterparts. I imagine you are in a bigger city, but still.
    08-03-11 02:15 PM
  17. Deathcommand's Avatar
    That's really unfair.

    9930's better cost less..

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    08-03-11 02:19 PM
  18. Yung_Dilla's Avatar
    Man all I know is I want my 9930!!
    08-03-11 03:03 PM
  19. Xader's Avatar
    I'm puzzled by the significant drop in standby time across the board (with all newer models) though.
    Well, I'm sure that this is due in no small part to the fact that previous bold models (9000 & 9700 series) had 1500mAh batteries, whereas the Torch 9800 and 9850 both use a 1270mAh and the 9900 has an even smaller 1240mAh.
    08-03-11 04:14 PM
  20. UrbanGlowCam's Avatar
    Well, I'm sure that this is due in no small part to the fact that previous bold models (9000 & 9700 series) had 1500mAh batteries, whereas the Torch 9800 and 9850 both use a 1270mAh and the 9900 has an even smaller 1240mAh.
    9800/9810 use a 1270mAh

    9850/9860/9930/9900 use a 1230mah

    Edit: If you look between the 9800 and 9810, they have identical batteries and yet talk time has increased / standby decreased between the upgrade. Only thing I could imagine is that it is a change in software coding or processor. Personally, I think it's a combination. They really must have optimized the **** out of them.

    Last edited by UrbanGlowCam; 08-03-11 at 06:42 PM.
    08-03-11 06:33 PM
  21. Deathcommand's Avatar
    For people that have a 9650, does the batt life look right to you?

    Or is that on OS5?

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    08-03-11 06:48 PM
  22. UrbanGlowCam's Avatar
    For people that have a 9650, does the batt life look right to you?

    Or is that on OS5?

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    I believe those are the ratings from when the device first launched with OS5.
    08-03-11 06:57 PM
  23. chris3896's Avatar
    For people that have a 9650, does the batt life look right to you?

    Or is that on OS5?

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Yeah OS6 helped a little on my 9650. I'm ready to make the switch back to a phone with a one of a kind keyboard and solid battery life. My Incredible is nice and all but even after rooting it and replacing the battery with an EVO battery and having the best roms, I'm still only getting about 12 hours with medium use. If I even touch any media or GPS I'm toast. My 9650 would get about two days to two and a half days with similar usage. I will miss some applications of Android but the most important things to me (talk time, battery life, and texting) are all covered. And with the enhanced browsing experience I think all of my complaints are nixed. I
    want my keyboard and battery life back! Please drop this bad boy soon Big Red!!

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    08-04-11 06:08 AM
  24. nRRe's Avatar
    been with Sprint for almost 10 years?

    dont have 4g at my house...literally 1 mile from the coverage zone, sprint has no plan to put up more wimax towers so i'm SOL. Almost want to switch to at&t for the 4gs on this phone lol.

    still got a year left on my contract...or 2...oh well.
    08-04-11 09:44 PM
  25. digdah's Avatar
    Man all I know is I want my 9930!!
    Hear hear!
    08-04-11 11:38 PM
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