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  1. nutter426's Avatar
    I'm expecting QNX to be the beginning of the end for the conventional BB form factor of screen above qwerty keyboard.
    One major selling point of QNX/BBX for the consumer market will be the ability to run android apps.
    Android phones are full touch-screen with OSK, I don't know of an Android device with a real keyboard. I know bluetooth keyboards can be used with the tablets, and am happy to be shown I am wrong.
    Surely in order to run android apps sucessfully the phone will need to be the same form factor, and a similar size. Landscape apps MAY work on something like the 99xx but an app that should run in portrait mode just wont work well as far as I can see.

    I hope that at the very least hybrid/slide devices such as the torch continue to exist as on of my reasons for choosing a BB handset is the keyboard, I like real buttons.

    Only time will tell if any of us are correct.
    11-16-11 05:31 PM
  2. M3ta's Avatar
    while QNX devices are on the cards for Q1 of 2011
    So, QNX devices are out for 7 months now?
    Interesting.
    11-16-11 05:42 PM
  3. jrocke0w0's Avatar
    Thanks man.

    Geeze, taking a step back and trying to take a 30,000 foot view of what RIM is doing...it seems they are copying Apple:

    - BBX phone slates comes out. Combined with a Playbook, you have a slate phone and tablet with the same/similar/compatible operating systems. Oh wait, that sounds eerily familiar to an iPhone and iPad combo, which both has iOS.

    Problem is, RIM is about 2+ years behind. Aishhhhhhhhhh
    Yeah! And like the Droid phones and the Droid tablets! They run similar OS' too! Smh

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    11-16-11 05:54 PM
  4. GJW's Avatar
    This discussion seems to be wishful thinking. Let's get real - RIM promised the first QNX handset would be out Q1 2012, and now we're hearing it will be Q3 2012 (and likely late Q3). I for one am not at all shocked about the delays. So while we're debating about whether or not BBX will run on the 99xx, RIM are clearly having major challenges getting it to run on purpose built hardware.

    In my humble opinion, I think it's quite likely the first BBX handset won't make it out in 2012. And THAT is the reason to buy a new handset now - waiting for something that can't even be demoed yet is depriving you of a far better user experience that can be had right now with the latest generation of OS7 phones.

    Don't get me wrong, I think OS7 is just a VERY incremental upgrade and nothing special to write home about - but at least the new handsets have a reasonable CPU, decent battery power, are fully compatible with exisitng BES infrastructure, and they finally have decent touch capabilities (and if rumors hold true, mobile hotspot and UMA (or wifi calling) coming soon)

    So we should stop worrying about whether BBX will run on 99xx devices (it's NOT going to happen), and instead figure out whether you want/need a new device - and whether BES services are critical for you or not. Answer these simple questions and you will have your answer about whether or not to buy an OS7 handset.
    11-16-11 05:59 PM
  5. mssca's Avatar
    I'm expecting QNX to be the beginning of the end for the conventional BB form factor of screen above qwerty keyboard.
    One major selling point of QNX/BBX for the consumer market will be the ability to run android apps.
    Android phones are full touch-screen with OSK, I don't know of an Android device with a real keyboard. I know bluetooth keyboards can be used with the tablets, and am happy to be shown I am wrong.
    Surely in order to run android apps sucessfully the phone will need to be the same form factor, and a similar size. Landscape apps MAY work on something like the 99xx but an app that should run in portrait mode just wont work well as far as I can see.

    I hope that at the very least hybrid/slide devices such as the torch continue to exist as on of my reasons for choosing a BB handset is the keyboard, I like real buttons.

    Only time will tell if any of us are correct.
    RIM most likely will have their physical keyboard version that may not run all the Android apps, however will run some of them but will give the speeds comparable to current Android phones. If not, I am going for an Android, because I don't see a point of having a Blackberry if it is not unique with the physical keyboard. A lot of people will dump Blackberries if RIM decided to drop the physical keyboard for sure. The e-recycling people will be happy.
    11-16-11 06:04 PM
  6. vx1's Avatar
    lol this is a great thread ...

    if you like the 9900 just get it .. don't worry about what QNX will bring .. its still a long ways away .. I ran the iPhone 4S for a few weeks .. it was ok, now I got the 9900 really nice device classy, well made I found a whole bunch of cool settings in the camera area too .. shooting modes .. There is the 9790 coming shortly looks nice too but I think the 9900 has more to offer, but the 9790 is a bit more pocketable is all less network speed though its 7.2 down vs 14.4 of the 9900

    they keyboard truly is the best on the market

    honestly just take things as they come, you will sleep longer and wake up happier lol
    the mobile space truly is a drama fest but we all love it hehehe
    11-16-11 06:13 PM
  7. gbsn's Avatar
    Yeah, that's what they're doing...

    Wait until iOS needs a major transition to their entire platform while supporting years of legacy equipment... Or will they just keep giving refreshes?
    They dont need, iOS is based on the mac osx kernel, which, if you read around, you will find that it f*cks, eats and pees the current BB OS core. The good desktop based foundation is there, that their UI is sort of a POS and the company puts up super gay and lame feature restrictions is another thing.

    RIM and Apple have a lot in common, they will be sausage fighting for marketshare if RIM hits it right, while android keeps spreading at a faster rate than HIV in the porn industry with more carrier bloatware than HP puts on its computers.

    As for the usual rumors that recirculate the net, QNX eta is on 2012 Q3. I dont see any blackberry owner wanting to upgrade waiting close to a whole year instead of getting an OS 7 device.
    11-16-11 06:54 PM
  8. louzer's Avatar
    Nothing to worry about with the 9900. Run OS 7 on it now. Then later you can run the mini version of BBX which supports Android, iOS5, and Windows 8 emulation right after it brings you the paper and opens a cold beer for you.
    howarmat likes this.
    11-17-11 11:39 AM
  9. Wangta's Avatar
    .... right after it brings you the paper and opens a cold beer for you.
    I would pay alot of money for this. This would be a sure fire way for RIM to leap frog Apple, MS, everyone (wife) in the world.
    11-17-11 11:44 AM
  10. devcellent's Avatar
    I highly doubt it. A single core processor to run a dual core arch. is a lot of work.
    11-17-11 08:44 PM
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