1. exzibit3's Avatar
    I don't get it. How or why would it even matter if the 9900 is actually a 4G enabled phone? Most of the data, goes through BIS which is freaking slow compared to 3G. How slow? Try three times slower. I did speed tests using tethering via 3G vs BIS using the Playbook. So what's the deal? How the heck do you take advantage of the supposed 4G speeds on the mobile?

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    08-15-11 08:27 PM
  2. twigg's Avatar
    It will allow you to access speeds that rival if not beat DSL and cable modems (given the right coverage). And yes BIS does slow if down, but your phone is usually the slowest link. So it will be faster. Just think EDGE vs 3G, but in this case 3G vs 4G (HSDPA+). It's faster.

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    08-15-11 09:02 PM
  3. CrackBerryDoctor's Avatar
    I get 6 Mbps on mine download and 1 Mbps upload via tethering.
    08-15-11 09:19 PM
  4. The_Kills's Avatar
    Even 3G is beyond what a BB smartphone needs. Since everything as you mentioned is processed through their servers, there is no point in whether you have a 3G or 4G or heck even 5G on your blackberry.
    08-15-11 09:48 PM
  5. mssca's Avatar
    Telus system shows H+ on the screen while my mom's 9780 shows HSPA.... so.... I have no idea if it is 3G or 4G. I would say 3.5G... Downloading apps and web surfing is wayyyy faster on 9900 than 9700 on the same Telus network in Calgary area.

    Remember the "G" stand for generation. It really doesn't give you a bench mark on speed.
    08-15-11 09:49 PM
  6. tsquare2112's Avatar
    Is the 9930 for Verizon 4G LTE?
    08-15-11 10:18 PM
  7. tsquare2112's Avatar
    Thanks. That's what I was thinking.
    08-15-11 10:23 PM
  8. ericlc2's Avatar
    i think for a lot of people 4g is irrelevant with the 9900/9930 for now, giving its availability. by the time a good majority have 4g coverage, we will be on the true next generation of crackberries

    but if you have 4g coverage already in your area, im jelly
    08-15-11 10:27 PM
  9. pre456's Avatar
    My bb 9900 on the bell network gives me down spead of apox. 11mbps and 6.7 mbps for uplloading. That's fast! My home internet which is supposedly 10 mbps is slower.

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    08-15-11 10:39 PM
  10. exzibit3's Avatar
    It will allow you to access speeds that rival if not beat DSL and cable modems (given the right coverage). And yes BIS does slow if down, but your phone is usually the slowest link. So it will be faster. Just think EDGE vs 3G, but in this case 3G vs 4G (HSDPA+). It's faster.

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    I get how 3G vs 4G would work faster if it was any other phone (for argument sake, say iPhone 4 and iPhone 5) as it uses the network's 3G/4G data at those respective speeds. But what I don't get is this; all our data goes through the BIS servers which is bottlenecked at much slower speeds compared to 3G or 4G, so why would it matter if the phone is 4G enabled or not? Wouldn't RIM need to upgrade the BIS servers to increase download speed?
    08-16-11 05:16 AM
  11. southlander's Avatar
    The "G's" are mostly marketing anyway. You have to look at the technology used. In the case of the 9900 it is HSPA+ I think. So your carrier would need to use that technology.
    08-16-11 05:25 AM
  12. DX9's Avatar
    What site are you using for testing download speed?
    08-16-11 05:31 AM
  13. nyc_rock's Avatar
    Even 3G is beyond what a BB smartphone needs. Since everything as you mentioned is processed through their servers, there is no point in whether you have a 3G or 4G or heck even 5G on your blackberry.
    Say what? Are saying there is no difference between a Edge and 3G on a Blackberry? Me thinks you are mistaken kind sir.

    I dont know what the max speed of the BB servers is, but common sense would tell you that by increasing the speed in which data is transmitted would also increase the speed in which your blackberry is able to recieve said data.

    Didnt mean to imply you lack common sense.
    Last edited by garment69; 08-16-11 at 07:12 AM.
    08-16-11 07:06 AM
  14. tsquare2112's Avatar
    I am more concerned with battery than speeds. I had a Thunderbolt for a while. It was an awesome device, until the day 4G went live in my area. I went from getting a full days use out of the battery to about 3 hours. Yes, the speeds were extremely fast, but its no good if I have to have it plugged in all day.
    08-16-11 09:09 AM
  15. vikesh's Avatar
    So is the Samsung Galaxy S2 capable of 21.1 mbs, isn't Rogers launching a new network, then the 9900 will be outdated? (14.4)
    08-16-11 09:15 AM
  16. dcgore's Avatar
    Anything past 5mbps down is considered 4g these days.
    08-16-11 09:16 AM
  17. exzibit3's Avatar
    Say what? Are saying there is no difference between a Edge and 3G on a Blackberry? Me thinks you are mistaken kind sir.

    I dont know what the max speed of the BB servers is, but common sense would tell you that by increasing the speed in which data is transmitted would also increase the speed in which your blackberry is able to recieve said data.

    Didnt mean to imply you lack common sense.
    It is true that 3G is faster than EDGE even through BIS servers. What it doesn't do however is match 3G speeds, so something is bottlenecking the data speed. On 3G, I get about 1.5mb/s via tethering on the Playbook (not great, but that's carrier dependent). On BIS while bridging, I'm only getting 0.5mb/s. I'm using speedtest.net. So while the 9900 may be faster on 4G, it will never come anywhere close to matching 4G speeds, so isn't it really just a gimmick to say that it is 4G enabled?

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    08-16-11 11:51 AM
  18. alunkkk's Avatar
    i think its only 3G or 3.5G maybe..
    4G in 9900/30 is only operator marketing..
    no LTE BB..
    08-16-11 02:25 PM
  19. dcgore's Avatar
    So is the Samsung Galaxy S2 capable of 21.1 mbs, isn't Rogers launching a new network, then the 9900 will be outdated? (14.4)
    The model here is irrelevant if the carrier is not pushing those speeds to the user.
    08-16-11 02:38 PM
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