- Use greenify non root mode. For a non rooted phone, that's the best option to automatically manage your android apps. For permission management, always use "apk permission pro". You can get these files on aptoide market. Apk permission pro works great to deny apps permission you don't need. I use swiftkey keyboard but I removed the full Internet permission using apk permission pro as third party keyboards can be susceptible to key logging.
Blackberrys 10 android apps run for sure on the background and I've tested this myself.
Posted via CB10The_Passporter and jaydee5799 like this.03-09-17 11:06 AMLike 2 - Well we decided to do this experiment due to the poor battery life as you said. He is now trying Greenify as an aid and tomorrow we will have a list of apps that restarted and more information to share.
Thank you for sharing this info with us I will take that into account and let him know. It is possible he will be rooting his LG-G3 if he can't get a better grip on the battery and apps.
Posted via CB1003-09-17 11:10 AMLike 0 -
Posted via CB1003-09-17 11:41 AMLike 0 - Use greenify non root mode. For a non rooted phone, that's the best option to automatically manage your android apps. For permission management, always use "apk permission pro". You can get these files on aptoide market. Apk permission pro works great to deny apps permission you don't need. I use swiftkey keyboard but I removed the full Internet permission using apk permission pro as third party keyboards can be susceptible to key logging.
Blackberrys 10 android apps run for sure on the background and I've tested this myself.
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Again the only app I can't stop from restarting is Skype.
Posted via CB1003-09-17 11:45 AMLike 0 -
As I mentioned above, BB10 cannot run Android apps in the background unless it is one of the extremely rare headless apps - of which Skype is the only one I'm aware of.03-09-17 11:45 AMLike 0 - Why do you say that? I know that after rooting my Samsung I was satisfied with my control over what apps were running and permanently disabled all the Samsung bloat-wear. I did not know of greenify then but we will discover this backfire theory you believe soon I hope.
Posted via CB10The_Passporter likes this.03-09-17 11:47 AMLike 1 -
This tells me they do run in the background unless manually killed.
Posted via CB1003-09-17 12:22 PMLike 0 - I said to give examples, because usually force stops actually works.
From my tests 6 months ago, I force stopped Facebook and looked if it started its processes again for a full day and it didn't.
BB10 has background processes as well. They are known as headless apps and last time I checked they were non-manageable by the user (but my BB10 development knowledge is pretty old at this point in time)03-09-17 12:22 PMLike 0 -
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Posted via CB1003-09-17 12:31 PMLike 0 -
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"Apps can run services only while the user runs them, either in full screen or in thumbnail mode."03-09-17 12:52 PMLike 0 - Haha he has sent that link before. They do run in the background using system resources as they bloat up the android runtime, that's why you experience lag whenever you don't foreclose apps or you're able to receive email through an android app or a notification. They can start processes in the background whenever. Conite has the penchant to believe anything he sees written out on paper for some reason.
Posted via CB10The_Passporter likes this.03-09-17 01:10 PMLike 1 -
If you don't believe me, but how about Cobalt?
"Oh I love this question about Android apps eating up battery in the background. What I'm telling you now is backed up by the Blackberry Developer Site and is valid for ANY Android app on your device:
From the Blackberry developer docs about the Blackberry Android runtime (Jelly Bean):
* Apps can run services only while the user runs them, either in full screen or in thumbnail mode.
* https://developer.blackberry.com/and..._software.html
What does that mean? The Blackberry Android runtime does NOT allow Android apps to run any services in the background. Period. As soon as the screen goes off (battery saving mode, sleep mode), ANY Android app will stop working in the background. A good example to explain this may be light in your fridge. Everytime you open the door of your fridge, the light is on, right? So we must assume, that the light in the fridge is permanently on? No, it's not. It's triggered when you open the door and it goes off when you close the door.
The only way to get an Android app to run permanently in the background is to implement Blackberry Headless mode. This must be requested from blackberry, and usually those apps are then ONLY avaliable on Blackberry World as a ported Android app (an example is Skype). All other Android apps that you download from anywhere else do NOT incorporate Headless mode and CANNOT run in the background.
Now I already hear all the "specialists" that are saying "Hey, but I'm running task manager xyz and there are a lot of services running on my device and I cleaned them and now everything is great"
Well, that simply isn't true. Running a task manager app is just like opening the door on the fridge. The light is now on. But if you close the taskmanager and the device goes to sleep, all services are stopped again.
The second thing that you should know about background services is, that against the common believe, they do not RUN in the background. They register a trigger in the Android runtime. The registering service itself is not running. Now if the Android runtime receives an Intent, it will look if a services was registered for the intent and THEN will start the service. The service will do its work (i.e. sync data) and then close again. On a Blackberry device, this will only happen if:
a) The device is NOT in sleepmode
b) The app is open OR running in an active Frame
If those conditions are not met, nothing happens. No services is started.*"03-09-17 01:15 PMLike 0 - Regardless if what it says I don't see how you can logically argue what is happening with the Android apps popping up sucking Resources.
It's plain as day what I and the other fellow with the Whatsapp APK had described. Why don't you try and explain it to us if your so sure that they are not doing what they appear to be doing instead of stopping your feet that your right
Posted via CB1003-09-17 01:19 PMLike 0 - Well, if you don't believe me, Cobalt, or the Android Runtime developer Blog, then I don't know what to say.03-09-17 01:21 PMLike 0
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- All I did was make a quick statement of fact. It was you who decided to argue the matter. Frankly, it doesn't matter to me what you believe. I just wanted to clear it up for anyone else that was reading this thread. But yes carry on to the original topic.03-09-17 01:25 PMLike 0
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Posted via CB1003-09-17 01:27 PMLike 0 - There can be any number of other technical possibilities for stuttering music. It is very possible that those apps are looking for other services to connect with, and momentarily wake those other services while searching - much like a task manager.03-09-17 01:32 PMLike 0
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- How can an app register an intent without starting a process thread? If say I install k9 browser android app to check my mail every 30 minutes, and it sends me mail without being on full operation mode, or minimized, how is that not running in the background? Or how do apps tie up system processes when already closed and are not headless? Man!
Posted via CB1003-09-17 01:37 PMLike 0 - How can an app register an intent without starting a process thread? If say I install k9 browser android app to check my mail every 30 minutes, and it sends me mail without being on full operation mode, or minimized, how is that not running in the background? Or how do apps tie up system processes when already closed and are not headless? Man!
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When the Android Runtime receives an intent, it will check to see what service was registered to that intent, open it, allow it to sync, and then close it. Notifications are provided directly through the Runtime itself, without having to wake a service and having an app open.ominaxe likes this.03-09-17 01:44 PMLike 1 - An android runtime registering an intent. Haha you mean running a process in the background but calling it a different name lol. Hmm
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