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  1. N715DP's Avatar
    Bear with me here, I wish I could give you pictures of these screens... I just found something odd...

    First, at my office, we have a Netgear WAP that has WEP enabled.

    Second, I have two browsers on my 8830 - the built-in and Opera.

    The story... while reading my RSS feeds this morning, I saw an article about people seeing a huge jump in speed on the AT&T network overnight - presumably for the iPhone launch today. What piqued my interest was a link to DSLReports (dslreports.com/mspeed) where, you guessed it, you can test download speeds.

    I fired up the built-in browser and was greeted with a message that said something to the effect of "test NOT compatible with blackberry browsers". Below that were a few links including one that said "your IP" so I hit that up, thinking I would use opera to test in a few minutes.

    The IP that came back is one of the 5 statics for my offices dual T-1's. I know this because I run the network. The DNS is from our T-1 provider as well. How can this be? It would imply that there is somehow a connection between my 8830 and the building network. The IP, by the way, is one of the public statics we have here that corresponds to our DHCP server.

    I thought this odd, but the need to know what kind of speed I could get was more important so I fired up Opera and went to the same address. The download test ran and showed me at about 207KB... not bad... what's the IP I wonder... it's a 195.189 address.

    I thought this a fluke so I went back to the bberry browser and checked again - sure enough, it pulled my office ISP information again.

    Still being skeptical, I thought to my self "self, you have a web server, access it with your blackberry and then look at the apache logs". So I did just that... guess what...

    x.x.x.x - - [29/Jun/2007:05:46:48 -0700] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 880 "-" "BlackBerry8830/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105"

    Yup... the x.x.x.x was the same IP address DSLReports showed, and the very same IP as the public interface of our DHCP server.

    06-29-07 07:50 AM
  2. robm15's Avatar
    Does your BB use BES for internet or does it use BIS? If BES it must be using your enterprise server for internet access.
    06-29-07 10:35 AM
  3. N715DP's Avatar
    I am running a BES here - I was not aware that it used that as a proxy for net access... curious why Opera would not then go through the BES as well.
    06-29-07 10:36 AM
  4. EmptyInTheHead's Avatar
    You are using MDS through BES. It kind of acts like a proxy server. You don't really need MDS anymore. If you switch your browser to the "Internet Browser" it will use your providers network and not go through MDS anymore. I believe that only the "Blackberry Browser" uses MDS. If you turn of MDS on BES then the BB browser won't work but the Internet browser will.
    Last edited by EmptyInTheHead; 06-29-07 at 12:26 PM.
    06-29-07 12:23 PM
  5. N715DP's Avatar
    ... and so it is... you learn something new everyday. Thanks for this information... I just switched over to "Internet Browser" and it shows a 216. address and "blackberry.net" for DNS.

    Thanks, I was starting to wonder if Verizon had done some odd voodoo on the 8830's and secretly enabled wifi with wep-cracking at the same time they crippled GPS
    06-29-07 12:28 PM