- Did my phone change - no
Did my router change - no
Did my router jump into a cupboard - no
Did wifi perform well with 10.2 - yes
Does wifi perform well with 10.3 - no
Then there can only be one answer, OS - yes
"Z30 STA100-2 UK" 10.3.1.2558 Get's a Ten from Fen.03-20-15 12:09 PMLike 4 - It definitely does matter which version of 10.3.1 you're on - several users have seen improvements with their wifi connectivity since upgrading to 10.3.1.2576/10.3.1.2582. BlackBerry is actually doing a pretty good job of cleaning the mess they created with 10.3.1.2243/10.3.1.2267.
Yes, there are definitely a lot of users with wifi connectivity issues with the original 10.3.1 release - I don't think all of their routers decided to go on strike together. madbrad is notorious for being nothing but argumentative, I don't know why you're dignifying him with a response.
All I'm saying for certain is it isn't my router. This has been an issue since early 10.3.1 leaks. I use leaks both destructively and non destructively, but many people who are also finding issues are only using official OTA releases. They are seeing the difference immediately from 10.2.1 to 10.3.1 and, like I said earlier, many may not even notice the change due to their specific usage of wi-fi. When the issue arose for me many many months ago I used non destructive autoloaders and fresh installs to fix low notification and vibration phone ringer issues we all know about now. I wasn't alone then and official releases now means there are more people noticing the issue. Not everybody is seeing an issue doesn't mean it doesn't exist and is consistant with the upgrade to 10.3.1. Sounds familiar doesn't it? Either way I have helped myself and tried many ways to correct this and other 10.3.1 issues, but it isn't going to change the OS. I just hope they can rectify it sooner than... not at all.
Posted via CB1003-20-15 12:24 PMLike 0 -
I'm all for people being entitled to their own opinions, but madbrad is obviously trolling - we know it's an OS issue (dangerousfen's comment above describes pretty accurately how we know), and so do all these people:
http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...l-stop-996637/
http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...-3-1-a-999516/
http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...arning-999934/
http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...heeelp-998882/
http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...rsists-998374/
http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...565-a-1001147/
I agree with you on all fronts, except your decision to reply to madbrad03-20-15 12:34 PMLike 0 - I'll add my voice to this... just because.
Z10, -3 model on AT&T. Running 10.3.1.2582 at the moment.
I have NO wi-fi issues. I've had some forms of 10.3.1 on this phone since last October. Never noticed any change in wi-fi strength, connection capabilities, or performance.
Certainly, no change from how it was under 10.2.1, or 10.2.0, or 10.1 before that.
In fact, there's also never been a change in mobile signal performance either in all the OS builds I've loaded with the related radio. Never have I had to try another radio from a different build.
And, although not the point of this particular thread, I can also say that my battery performance has never changed in 20 months that I've had this phone. It's never gotten better - but it's also never gotten worse.
I don't know what all that means, but, there you go.
Posted via CB10ppeters914 and jaydee5799 like this.03-20-15 12:35 PMLike 2 - Ι have to agree as well..The wifi signal is extremely poor.Compared to other devices as well which don't have any problem at all.03-20-15 12:35 PMLike 0
- Add me to the list of people are have problems with wifi on my Z30 since 10.3.1. I'm on 2558 and my wifi disconnects frequently, which runs up my data since I don't always notice it right away. And yes it started with the OS update. Reading about hints from other users with the same problem I now changed from dual band to 2.4 ghz which limited the disconnects significantly. I'm convinced that there is a bug in the OS.lift likes this.03-20-15 12:54 PMLike 1
- Well, as I stated... There are obviously some who may have this issue, but it is not widespread. So the only option I can see is to take the initiative with self-help. Doing nothing but saying "me too!" can change nothing.
Hope to see your issues resolved soon.
Good luck.
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Posted via CB1003-20-15 01:38 PMLike 3 - This is what on other OSes are called "false signal"
What happens is that previous OS and other platforms miscalculate the actual signal strength, meaning, in many cases even if you still have 1-2 bars, you can't actually call or use the mobile network
What BB did is accurately display the signal strength, so when it's not possible to call, it shows no signal at all
"false signal" LOL. By the way, we are talking WIFI not "mobile network" like you also said (directed to masterscarhead1).03-20-15 03:45 PMLike 2 - Running 10.3.1 when you turn on wifi look at how many other wifi signals you get in your neighborhood. Is it about the same as when you were running 10.2.1? NO! Not even close. I just did a comparison with 2 Q10's. One running 10.3.1.2582 and the other running 10.2.1.3442. Standing in the same exact spot in my house, I pick-up MANY more of my neighborhoods wifi signals on the 10.2.1 Q10 then on the 10.3.1 Q10. Why?? Because the 10.3.1 radio is weaker. End of discussion. How you people can say it's your router or you haven't noticed any difference is ridiculous. The OP and many others here in this thread are correct and I wish some of you people would stop insisting there is no issue when clearly there is.03-20-15 03:59 PMLike 2
- Running 10.3.1 when you turn on wifi look at how many other wifi signals you get in your neighborhood. Is it about the same as when you were running 10.2.1? NO! Not even close. I just did a comparison with 2 Q10's. One running 10.3.1.2582 and the other running 10.2.1.3442. Standing in the same exact spot in my house, I pick-up MANY more of my neighborhoods wifi signals on the 10.2.1 Q10 then on the 10.3.1 Q10. Why?? Because the 10.3.1 radio is weaker. End of discussion. How you people can say it's your router or you haven't noticed any difference is ridiculous. The OP and many others here in this thread are correct and I wish some of you people would stop insisting there is no issue when clearly there is.
Via CB10 PassportSQW100-1/10.3.1.2582 03-20-15 04:22 PMLike 0 - Running 10.3.1 when you turn on wifi look at how many other wifi signals you get in your neighborhood. Is it about the same as when you were running 10.2.1? NO! Not even close. I just did a comparison with 2 Q10's. One running 10.3.1.2582 and the other running 10.2.1.3442. Standing in the same exact spot in my house, I pick-up MANY more of my neighborhoods wifi signals on the 10.2.1 Q10 then on the 10.3.1 Q10. Why?? Because the 10.3.1 radio is weaker. End of discussion. How you people can say it's your router or you haven't noticed any difference is ridiculous. The OP and many others here in this thread are correct and I wish some of you people would stop insisting there is no issue when clearly there is.
Posted via CB10lift likes this.03-20-15 04:37 PMLike 1 -
Posted via CB10lift likes this.03-20-15 04:46 PMLike 1 - Maybe you don't notice anything different. That doesn't mean there are not real differences for many people on different BlackBerry devices. It is very obvious on my Q10's. I have a few Z10's laying around that I may try when I get around to it.03-20-15 07:43 PMLike 0
- I think a lot of people have this issue but don't know about it. I also have this issue. I want you to test this for those who think they don't have it. Install wifi analyzer. Android app. And no it worked just fine on before OS. Scan the wifi signals. If you see the dbm strength of one wifi signal wobble a lot in strength. Then you have the problem to. It isn't stable. When you see signals frequently disappear. Then you have the problem also. Wifi isn't stable.
Z30 STA100-5/10.3.1.2582lift likes this.03-20-15 07:59 PMLike 1 - Superfly_FRRetired ModeratorIt's so hard to answer a question without diag.
0. For all, type 'myver' on your KB and have a look at suggestions. See your model an OS? Ok: swipe it. Start here. Thanks.
1. (for those who updated or restored a backup) . Airplane mode + settings / network / wifi / saved (bottom) : delete problematic connexion. (optional fresh restart : at least be sure no headless app is running) Enable wifi only set connection again, if you can WPS : do it.
2. You router may not have changed but your neighborhood may have. Use a wifi scanner to check the channel you use is not overused.
3. Troubleshoot : is that really wifi problem ? If cell voice/data is on or off, any difference ?
Then there might be additional questions of any kind... but it's 2AM here...
A simple 'it suxs' never helped anyone. It's just a rant. Rants are useless.
PassportSQW100-1/10.3.1.2582 here with near perfect wifi.Last edited by Superfly_FR; 03-20-15 at 08:11 PM. Reason: sorry multiples typos...
03-20-15 08:06 PMLike 0 - Look Madbrad, I've checked out your profile, you've been around here as long as I have.
Let's go back to BBOS. Remember when OS6 was leaked for the 9700? Even when it was made official, the same release of that OS would run differently on identical devices. It's the way it's always been.
It was no different for the 9900. People would complain that the radio was rubbish, others would say it ran great.
We have the same issue here with this wifi problem. Some devices are affected, others are not.
It's so logical that its the OS that is to blame, even though others don't experience it. Cast your mind back to those magical, frustrating days mate.
Hey ho.
Alan.
Edit: you may also remember that eventually they released 862 for the 9900 after many other releases and everyone was happy with it.
"Z30 STA100-2 UK" 10.3.1.2558 Get's a Ten from Fen.Last edited by dangerousfen; 03-20-15 at 08:22 PM.
03-20-15 08:06 PMLike 0 - Further to my previous post, I am firmly convinced that BlackBerry will get this and other outstanding issues sorted. We just have to have a little patients.
After all, 10.3 is a bloody good OS.
"Z30 STA100-2 UK" 10.3.1.2558 Get's a Ten from Fen.03-20-15 08:38 PMLike 0 - I think a lot of people have this issue but don't know about it. I also have this issue. I want you to test this for those who think they don't have it. Install wifi analyzer. Android app. And no it worked just fine on before OS. Scan the wifi signals. If you see the dbm strength of one wifi signal wobble a lot in strength. Then you have the problem to. It isn't stable. When you see signals frequently disappear. Then you have the problem also. Wifi isn't stable.
Z30 STA100-5/10.3.1.2582
Nothing but personal deductions riding around town. Because that's just dumb. Who goes around looking for other people's signals? Users I know link to known locations. I don't judge my signal strength on how many routers I can pick up. I judge my signal strength on my known and saved locations. That's just plain old creepy.
Posted via CB10Naziem13 likes this.03-20-15 08:49 PMLike 1 - It's so hard to answer a question without diag.
0. For all, type 'myver' on your KB and have a look at suggestions. See your model an OS? Ok: swipe it. Start here. Thanks.
1. (for those who updated or restored a backup) . Airplane mode + settings / network / wifi / saved (bottom) : delete problematic connexion. (optional fresh restart : at least be sure no headless app is running) Enable wifi only set connection again, if you can WPS : do it.
2. You router may not have changed but your neighborhood may have. Use a wifi scanner to check the channel you use is not overused.
3. Troubleshoot : is that really wifi problem ? If cell voice/data is on or off, any difference ?
Then there might be additional questions of any kind... but it's 2AM here...
A simple 'it suxs' never helped anyone. It's just a rant. Rants are useless.
PassportSQW100-1/10.3.1.2582 here with near perfect wifi.
Posted via CB1003-20-15 08:54 PMLike 0 - I'm having this WiFi issue also on my Z30 with 10.3.1
Weak connection, it drops and reconnect a lot when I'm in another room.
I downgraded to 10.2.1. used it for 2 days and had no issues at all.
Now back on 10.3.1 and the problem is here again.
So yes, it's the OS.
I think it's only on z30 and q10 (not sure)
But on my other devices, z10 and passport I don't have this issue.
Posted via CB10lift likes this.03-20-15 08:59 PMLike 1 - I'm having this WiFi issue also on my Z30 with 10.3.1
Weak connection, it drops and reconnect a lot when I'm in another room.
I downgraded to 10.2.1. used it for 2 days and had no issues at all.
Now back on 10.3.1 and the problem is here again.
So yes, it's the OS.
I think it's only on z30 and q10 (not sure)
But on my other devices, z10 and passport I don't have this issue.
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"Z30 STA100-2 UK" 10.3.1.2558 Get's a Ten from Fen.03-20-15 09:05 PMLike 3 - Look Madbrad, I've checked out your profile, you've been around here as long as I have.
Let's go back to BBOS. Remember when OS6 was leaked for the 9700? Even when it was made official, the same release of that OS would run differently on identical devices. It's the way it's always been.
It was no different for the 9900. People would complain that the radio was rubbish, others would say it ran great.
We have the same issue here with this wifi problem. Some devices are affected, others are not.
It's so logical that its the OS that is to blame, even though others don't experience it. Cast your mind back to those magical, frustrating days mate.
Hey ho.
Alan.
Edit: you may also remember that eventually they released 862 for the 9900 after many other releases and everyone was happy with it.
"Z30 STA100-2 UK" 10.3.1.2558 Get's a Ten from Fen.
I'm saying that there are some that have been experiencing issues, but that doesn't means it is the OS itself! Everyone has different experiences. If it were many more would have the same experiences. But they aren't! And just like on BBOS, most of those issues were handled by users actually doing something like OS reloads, and the such. Are you actually willing to sit here and say that many many many issues were not resolved by a wipe, or re-adding WiFi profiles, or a reload?
What have you read here? People saying "yeah, me too!". Have you read a post that said I tried this, or I've tried that and it hasn't helped? NO! You see a bunch of skirting around the issue by saying we've tried everything. What exactly is everything!?!? Why not say what you've tried so others can benefit? How can one single member repeatedly say "we've tried everything"! How can he possibly know what was tried by other members if nothing has been posted about what was tried. It's an assumption.
The only thing I've seen tried so far have been creepy neighborhood outings, that is not any form of true data at all. If you think that is a measure of deduction, I'm worried about the state of affairs around here.
Hypocrisy. I say it may not be the OS. Others say it definitely is the OS. Ok. What proof has been shown that it is the OS? Except for opinions.....
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