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  1. bb10adopter111's Avatar
    Can someone explain to me why anyone would update their primary BB10 phone to the newest version without any documentation of bug fixes, security patches, or new features?

    I understand why a developer or IT professional would want to evaluate the newest build, but I can't justify the risk, given that their are no expected rewards.

    Posted with my trusty Z10
    Last edited by bb10adopter111; 10-25-17 at 11:38 AM.
    10-24-17 09:42 AM
  2. John Vieira's Avatar
    Then don't. Problem Solved.
    skinnymike1 and Legal Eagle like this.
    10-24-17 09:44 AM
  3. bb10adopter111's Avatar
    Then don't. Problem Solved.
    I didn't ask what I should do. For now that's easy. I genuinely want to hear from others who think differently than I do.

    Posted with my trusty Z10
    cwalt2166 likes this.
    10-24-17 09:49 AM
  4. tollfeeder's Avatar
    For me, it's mainly curiosity.

    Via Pasta CB10
    skinnymike1 likes this.
    10-24-17 10:02 AM
  5. conite's Avatar
    BlackBerry never (or rarely) provides a changelog - so one must only assume that newer is better. In 99% of cases, that has proven true.

    Since new features aren't being added, one would expect that a newer build can only contain bug fixes. In this case, it appears the 4G issue with some UK carriers has been rectified.
    A Noise Annoys likes this.
    10-24-17 10:08 AM
  6. joeldf's Avatar
    Usually, just build number differences within the same major version (like 10.3.3.) are pretty safe. Rarely do you ever see any real added features between build numbers. Especially now that BlackBerry is done with any feature additions.

    Jumps from bigger versions like from 10.3.2 to 10.3.3, I usually do wait a bit for others to report on the changes.

    Although, there was that bug introduced in the android runtime in the last two builds released for 10.3.2.
    10-24-17 10:28 AM
  7. bb10adopter111's Avatar
    Great answers. Just what I was looking for. So it sounds like, within a version number (i.e., 10.3.3) new builds likely go through full regression testing before they are "leaked."

    Posted with my trusty Z10
    10-24-17 10:33 AM
  8. brookie229's Avatar
    I agree with the "newer is better" reasoning. Since I have been updating BB10, every single OS version has been (IMHO) an improvement in some way EXCEPT for one time. That was 10.3.2.2876 when the runtime was broken. Of course the vast majority of updates have been extremely minor but I have had no trouble with any of them except that one. So for me, it's just previous good experience that drives me to update "blindly". As conite has pointed out there has been a 4G bug fix for some carriers AND (although unproven yet) I believe a fix has been put in regarding BBW payment problems. These are minor updates for most people on BB10 (did not affect me at all), but for some they are very important fixes.
    10-24-17 10:40 AM
  9. scrannel's Avatar
    Does anyone know if wifi-calling survives on 10.3.3.3057?
    10-24-17 10:43 AM
  10. thurask's Avatar
    Great answers. Just what I was looking for. So it sounds like, within a version number (i.e., 10.3.3) new builds likely go through full regression testing before they are "leaked."

    Posted with my trusty Z10
    This build is from July, BlackBerry have been sitting on it for months now. It's not like it's bleeding edge.
    boadica likes this.
    10-24-17 10:53 AM
  11. DrBoomBotz's Avatar
    This build is from July, BlackBerry have been sitting on it for months now. It's not like it's bleeding edge.
    I would guess that someone is making sure the intern's documentation of "the sausage grinding process" actually produces sausage.
    boadica and cwalt2166 like this.
    10-24-17 11:09 AM
  12. carlos 1's Avatar
    Did someone already update, now something new??

    Posted via CB10 for may blackberry® passport ™
    10-24-17 12:53 PM
  13. brookie229's Avatar
    Did someone already update, now something new??

    Posted via CB10 for may blackberry® passport ™
    Yes: https://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-l...links-1128992/
    10-24-17 01:02 PM
  14. carlos 1's Avatar
    And had said, that was the end of blackberry 10.

    Posted via CB10 for may blackberry® passport ™
    10-24-17 01:08 PM
  15. brookie229's Avatar
    And had said, that was the end of blackberry 10.

    Posted via CB10 for may blackberry® passport ™
    There are no new features here--just a few bug fixes, but still it is nice to see for BB10 users. This is only maintenance.
    10-24-17 01:14 PM
  16. LSDBerry's Avatar
    I just update my PPSE, then Classic.

    Posted via CB10
    10-24-17 01:23 PM
  17. bb10adopter111's Avatar
    There are no new features here--just a few bug fixes, but still it is nice to see for BB10 users. This is only maintenance.
    Maintenance is all i've wanted or expected for the past two years. If the KRACK vulnerability gets patched I will be extremely happy. I just want BB10 to die a slow, dignified death instead of being hit by a bus.

    Posted with my trusty Z10
    10-24-17 01:27 PM
  18. The_Passporter's Avatar
    BlackBerry never (or rarely) provides a changelog - so one must only assume that newer is better. In 99% of cases, that has proven true.

    Since new features aren't being added, one would expect that a newer build can only contain bug fixes. In this case, it appears the 4G issue with some UK carriers has been rectified.
    Usually I would agree when the OS is still supported like Apple and Android where when if the newest update has a bug they can push out a fix soon after.

    As for BB10 you won't get that so if your device is working as a unsupported BB10 device should then I would stay where you are and just enjoy the show of all the guinea pigs that will play and let us know over a few weeks or months.
    10-24-17 01:30 PM
  19. conite's Avatar
    Usually I would agree when the OS is still supported like Apple and Android where when if the newest update has a bug they can push out a fix soon after.

    As for BB10 you won't get that so if your device is working as a unsupported BB10 device should then I would stay where you are and just enjoy the show of all the guinea pigs that will play and let us know over a few weeks or months.
    It's simple to go back to 2205, so it's not a big deal. Just a bit of time - but no harm done.
    10-24-17 01:34 PM
  20. A Noise Annoys's Avatar
    Although one can dream, I'm a realist that understands that any updates that come from this point on are maintenance or security patches and as such are reasonably safe, actually innocuous and no threat.
    10-24-17 04:04 PM
  21. IAmt's Avatar
    I didn't get any update STL100-1
    10-24-17 04:10 PM
  22. CB-BB-BBM's Avatar
    and you won't
    10-24-17 04:14 PM
  23. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    I suspect most that have installed it.... aren't using BB10 devices as their primary anyway.
    10-24-17 04:38 PM
  24. carlos 1's Avatar
    Is update does not resolve the problem of Dropbox not to give?

    Posted via CB10 for may blackberry® passport ™
    10-24-17 04:56 PM
  25. bb10adopter111's Avatar
    Is update does not resolve the problem of Dropbox not to give?

    Posted via CB10 for may blackberry® passport ™
    No, that won't ever get fixed. It's not a bug, it's just old.

    Posted with my trusty Z10
    10-24-17 04:58 PM
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