Why BlackBerry Is Not Making Software(Link,Blend..,) For Linux/Unix ?

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10-05-14, 03:49 PM
Saravanan Arumugam

Why BlackBerry Is Not Making Software(Link,Blend..,) For Linux/Unix ?

I Love BlackBerry, and I am Proud to say that :)

I feel sad that BlackBerry is Not Creating Softwares(Link,Blend..,) For Linux/UNIX Like Operating System's.

I know That Blackberry is So much in to Power Users and Professional's.

And Most of the Professionals are Working in Information Technology Field.

And Most of the IT Professional's are from IT Support. and I support Linux/UNIX Operating systems.

As per Wikipedia The below are the major Server's Market Share :-
36.72 % - Debian/Redhat/CentOS
30.18 % - HP-UX/AIX/Solaris
33.10 % - Windows

And For a Regular Desktop i use Linux Mint/Ubuntu. Not Windows (I Hate Using the Next,Next,Finish) Options.

I agree that Link and Blend use Desktop Operating Systems. But There is a large number of Users using Dual boot in thieir Laptop/PC just to run BB-Link/Blend.

Why Can't BlackBerry make Software for Linux Users. So we Dont want to install Windows for BB-Link/BB-Blend.

Note:- I tried Blend and Link Using Linux Wine. but i dont like the way it work's and its too laggy :(
10-05-14, 03:52 PM
Christofforo

Yeah, it does suck.
I think they do this for the same reason that mainstream apps aren't available for Blackberries (Natively)
10-05-14, 03:53 PM
thurask

Would be nice. If they can get Momentics on Linux, why not Blend/Link?
10-05-14, 03:55 PM
Saravanan Arumugam

:( sad Bro. BlackBerry listen to the user's we need BlackBerry Link or blend for Linux as well.

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10-05-14, 03:55 PM
Richard Buckley

Well also according to Wikipedia, Linux has about 1.6% of the desktop market. I don't think that you have to look any further than that.

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10-05-14, 03:58 PM
Saravanan Arumugam

Ha ha, I know someone will point out that. But in realistic professionals do you think? We use only windows? I don't think so. Just because it's 1 % does that really mean we are not users?

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10-05-14, 04:09 PM
menshawy

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10-05-14, 05:47 PM
Richard Buckley

Originally Posted by Saravanan Arumugam

Ha ha, I know someone will point out that. But in realistic professionals do you think? We use only windows? I don't think so. Just because it's 1 % does that really mean we are not users?

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You are limiting your definition of professional to IT professional. BlackBerry includes doctors, lawyers, bankers businesses electives, etc.

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10-05-14, 05:53 PM
jvinp

Yeah, Blend is for desktops, not for servers. So server os % is bunk.

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10-05-14, 07:37 PM
yhamaie

Originally Posted by Saravanan Arumugam

Why Can't BlackBerry make Software for Linux Users. So we Dont want to install Windows for BB-Link/BB-Blend.

Note:- I tried Blend and Link Using Linux Wine. but i dont like the way it work's and its too laggy :(

I am not familiar with how Link is created for Mac but it appears that Link for Windows is heavily dependent on Microsoft suite of compilers.

Meanwhile, Blend for Windows is apparently built with Qt so that it may be easily portable to the other platforms. I would send an e-mail to [email protected] to beg for a Linux / Unix edition of Blend.

Code:

C:\Program Files (x86)\BlackBerry\BlackBerry Blend> dir /s Directory of C:\Program Files (x86)\BlackBerry\BlackBerry Blend 2014/09/25 01:09 <DIR> . 2014/09/25 01:09 <DIR> .. 2014/09/17 11:16 5,053,688 Blend.exe 2014/09/17 11:15 930 com.rim.blackberryblend.lua 2014/09/17 11:15 1,256,080 dbghelp.dll 2014/09/17 11:16 717,560 DesktopInvokeProxy.exe 2014/09/17 11:16 2,996,224 DiagnosticsReporter.exe 2014/09/17 11:18 22,331,128 icudt51.dll 2014/09/17 11:18 1,774,840 icuin51.dll 2014/09/17 11:18 1,303,288 icuuc51.dll 2014/09/25 01:09 <DIR> imageformats 2014/08/14 20:29 1,158,656 libeay32.dll 2014/09/17 11:18 55,544 libEGL.dll 2014/09/17 11:18 788,728 libGLESv2.dll 2014/09/25 01:09 <DIR> platforms 2014/09/17 11:17 4,113,144 Qt5Core.dll 2014/09/17 11:17 3,251,448 Qt5Gui.dll 2014/09/17 11:17 551,160 Qt5Multimedia.dll 2014/09/17 11:17 84,216 Qt5MultimediaWidgets.dll 2014/09/17 11:17 856,312 Qt5Network.dll 2014/09/17 11:17 257,784 Qt5OpenGL.dll 2014/09/17 11:17 162,040 Qt5Positioning.dll 2014/09/17 11:17 268,536 Qt5PrintSupport.dll 2014/09/17 11:17 2,529,016 Qt5Qml.dll 2014/09/17 11:17 2,237,176 Qt5Quick.dll 2014/09/17 11:18 150,264 Qt5Sensors.dll 2014/09/17 11:18 158,968 Qt5Sql.dll 2014/09/17 11:18 17,511,160 Qt5WebKit.dll 2014/09/17 11:18 200,440 Qt5WebKitWidgets.dll 2014/09/17 11:18 4,378,872 Qt5Widgets.dll 2014/09/17 11:18 158,456 Qt5Xml.dll 2014/09/17 11:16 143,872 quazip.dll 2014/09/15 14:32 657,144 RimP2PServiceHelper.dll 2014/08/14 20:29 271,360 ssleay32.dll 2014/09/17 11:16 3,721,464 WebViewer.exe Directory of C:\Program Files (x86)\BlackBerry\BlackBerry Blend\imageformats 2014/09/17 11:18 28,920 qgif.dll 2014/09/17 11:18 28,408 qico.dll 2014/09/17 11:18 212,216 qjpeg.dll 2014/09/17 11:18 225,528 qmng.dll 2014/09/17 11:19 23,288 qsvg.dll 2014/09/17 11:19 22,776 qtga.dll 2014/09/17 11:19 315,128 qtiff.dll Directory of C:\Program Files (x86)\BlackBerry\BlackBerry Blend\platforms 2014/09/17 11:19 882,424 qwindows.dll
10-05-14, 08:12 PM
RedxD

As pointed out, Blend is built using Qt it probably works as is except for the drivers part.

Also OP you're not supposed to run Blend on a server, most users use Windows/OSX so that's probably why BlackBerry can't be bothered into making Link/Blend for Linux, I would love it though, also they do provide Momentics for Linux because is based off eclipse which is written Java so it probably shares 100% of the code with the windows version, Momentics for Linux sucks big time though(except on Ubuntu)

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10-05-14, 08:19 PM
Thunderbuck

Originally Posted by Saravanan Arumugam

I Love BlackBerry, and I am Proud to say that :)

I feel sad that BlackBerry is Not Creating Softwares(Link,Blend..,) For Linux/UNIX Like Operating System's.

I know That Blackberry is So much in to Power Users and Professional's.

And Most of the Professionals are Working in Information Technology Field.

And Most of the IT Professional's are from IT Support. and I support Linux/UNIX Operating systems.

As per Wikipedia The below are the major Server's Market Share :-
36.72 % - Debian/Redhat/CentOS
30.18 % - HP-UX/AIX/Solaris
33.10 % - Windows

And For a Regular Desktop i use Linux Mint/Ubuntu. Not Windows (I Hate Using the Next,Next,Finish) Options.

I agree that Link and Blend use Desktop Operating Systems. But There is a large number of Users using Dual boot in thieir Laptop/PC just to run BB-Link/Blend.

Why Can't BlackBerry make Software for Linux Users. So we Dont want to install Windows for BB-Link/BB-Blend.

Note:- I tried Blend and Link Using Linux Wine. but i dont like the way it work's and its too laggy :(

There's one big problem with those market share numbers you quote. They're for the SERVER market.

Blend/Link are DESKTOP software, and I'm sure you're aware that the market share is VERY different on that side. I'm sure if BlackBerry found that 40% of their own customers were on some kind of *nix desktop that they'd revisit this decision, but you can appreciate that it's hard to put that much time and money into an application that less than 2% of your customers are likely to even want.
10-06-14, 02:47 AM
chiefqualakon

I don't think BlackBerry is in a position to pick and choose. There's a higher chance that someone's running a Linux OS than someone is holding a BlackBerry. Developers should support all systems more in my opinion, especially outliers like BlackBerry and Linux.

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10-06-14, 04:02 AM
itzJustMeh

Originally Posted by chiefqualakon

I don't think BlackBerry is in a position to pick and choose. There's a higher chance that someone's running a Linux OS than someone is holding a BlackBerry. Developers should support all systems more in my opinion, especially outliers like BlackBerry and Linux.

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Yes, except they don't have enough resources to play around. If I am correct even Momentics wasn't on Linux at the beginning, but it is now because there were enough requests.
10-06-14, 05:59 AM
Joshu42

Hmmmm, if I were you I would test the Android version of BlackBerry Blend instead.
10-06-14, 06:03 AM
firefox66

Yes, i have a same question like this. i just want to BlackBerry let BB_Benld work native in linux cause i work on it. i love Linux, Sachesi.
10-06-14, 08:44 AM
kg4icg

I've said this before and I guess I'm going to say it again. So how many flavors of Linux do you want to support, compile for. Either .rpm or .deb packages or whatever someone else needs. With Linux, you have to go so many different routes to satisfy one crowd.
10-06-14, 09:00 AM
Warlack

Either they provide you the source and allow you to compile it yourself or they will have a lot of trouble with linux support.

Linux is great, but the massive fragmentation without a single packaging format is making it very hard to support.

If you truly want to run it, you can emulate it and get it running.... isn't that the spirit of Linux users?

At least that is what we are doing with android apps......

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10-06-14, 09:18 AM
stompalot

A web based system would solve the problem. Proper multi platform.

I won't be able to use Blend. Ubuntu desktop, android 4.11 tablet and chromebook...

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10-06-14, 09:21 AM
Warlack

Updating the tablet.... yeah.... that is an interesting setup you have....

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10-06-14, 10:08 AM
Thunderbuck

Originally Posted by chiefqualakon

I don't think BlackBerry is in a position to pick and choose. There's a higher chance that someone's running a Linux OS than someone is holding a BlackBerry. Developers should support all systems more in my opinion, especially outliers like BlackBerry and Linux.

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Actually, that isn't true. When you hear "BB has >1% market share" that relates to current sales. In terms of phones still actually out there and in use BB's share is still above Linux.
10-07-14, 01:43 AM
Completing

Originally Posted by kg4icg

I've said this before and I guess I'm going to say it again. So how many flavors of Linux do you want to support, compile for. Either .rpm or .deb packages or whatever someone else needs. With Linux, you have to go so many different routes to satisfy one crowd.

No need to repeat your misunderstanding of what's the point of .rpm or .deb etc. are. Those are just packages and BB team has no need to worry about those.
If source code is available, any distro can make their specific tweaks and build the packages so users can install the software quickly. Even for binary blobs, if needed.

Code can be compiled to/on/in any Linux distribution if the code is written to be compiled for GNU/Linux environment.
Even the programming language has low importance, unless it has no Linux compiler and is written only for MS specifics (aka OS vendor lock-in) Only one who loses in this game, is the customer - YOU!
10-07-14, 05:49 AM
Kaacz

Originally Posted by RedxD

As pointed out, Blend is built using Qt it probably works as is except for the drivers part.
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No one need driver part for remote/network bounded Blend connections. Only on direct USB network is small problem, but is used with SDK also on LInux. I don't see any lockstopper to have Qt5 Blend on Linux desktop.. Only BB hold it away ..
10-07-14, 05:59 AM
Joshu42

Ok, one more time : you know that Android is based on a Linux kernel ? You know that there is an Android version of Blend ? You know that, now, we can run Android app on all platform (from Windows to MacOS and Linux) with a cool package with Android runtimes (search the web) ?

So... Did you test it ?
10-07-14, 08:54 AM
roger garcia

For the same reason that Apple dont have Itunes for Linux, the use of linux in home is less than 1% around the world.

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