1. nabeel-bb-user's Avatar
    I think people prefer iphones and androids because half the extra stuff you can do on a blackberry by default is just extra in a normal white collar environment and if you did those things you'd be somewhat of an overachiever, so why not just stick to the simple basics. Plus shiny, colorful apps
    03-30-17 08:39 PM
  2. Bla1ze's Avatar
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    03-30-17 08:46 PM
  3. Drael646464's Avatar
    Samsung and Apple won this round because of sheer marketing.

    In a pre-saturation environment, premium sells. In the impended post-saturation negative growth environment, price competition sells. Samsung and Apple will either need impressive new tricks, or completely new market strategies.

    Blackberry could have spent serious coin on marketing, and pitched to the average user. Good sound quality, keyboard for social apps etc, was undersold. Maybe they never had the coin for that marketing. But it doesn't matter, the premium pre-saturation age is coming to a close, voice and gesture control, graphene screens, smartwear will be the next phase. In the meantime the smartphone scene is about to change radically.

    Samsung will be fine. They have the graphene patent shared with Microsoft, and a whole area of supporting profit sectors. Apple, well, I hope they have a plan. They are primarily earning solely through premium phone sales and high marketing spends. That's about to end. Apple could sink, if they don't have a plan.
    03-30-17 11:30 PM
  4. eshropshire's Avatar
    Blackberry lost because in 2013 they released a beta quality OS three+ years too late. Mainly due to a crazy Co CEO arrangement that kept the company from making hard choices in time to make an impact.
    Troy Tiscareno likes this.
    03-31-17 01:39 AM
  5. early2bed's Avatar
    Apple has premium pricing as well as relatively low costs. That's why they make the vast majority of the profits in the smartphone business. They have the best economies of scale, multiple product lines, own most of their value chain from the chip design to the end retailers.
    03-31-17 02:25 AM
  6. nabeel-bb-user's Avatar
    I hope the new wave of smartphones has more than 2 options.. lame duck vs scatterbrain

    Honestly thinking about switching to a flip phone and hotspot

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    03-31-17 03:40 AM
  7. Q10Bold's Avatar
    Ok new infos...

    #soon , later, later this year, fiscal year, commitment,...blablabla ~J.BlaBla Chen
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    03-31-17 03:48 AM
  8. nabeel-bb-user's Avatar
    If the bb os was at 10.2 level at launch and one all touchscreen phone with passport specs was released fairly quickly, I honestly don't see how bb could have been where it is today. Seriously they could have waited 6-12 months for release.

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    03-31-17 03:49 AM
  9. nabeel-bb-user's Avatar
    Got the ipod classic when it first came out and that was it. Never have never will like apple software.

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    03-31-17 03:52 AM
  10. kvndoom's Avatar
    Yay another post-mortem analysis.

    Saying why BB10 failed is like religion. Everybody believes something different, and they can't all be right.

    Let's see, from memory of recent threads:

    Aliens (ok that was just me being silly)
    Not enough supported languages
    99.5% of phone buyers are just stupid and don't know what's best for them

    No one ever seems to consider the simple possibilities... that maybe it just didn't meet the needs of potential buyers?

    "'Security by obscurity' means 'commercial failure.'" - Confucius
    03-31-17 05:29 AM
  11. nabeel-bb-user's Avatar
    99.5% of phone buyers are just stupid and don't know what's best for them
    Most accurate reason so far.

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    03-31-17 06:02 AM
  12. drobbie's Avatar
    All about apps. The 6-10 core apps people want/use does not exist for BB10 as native apps. People want apps that are maintained and updated regularly.
    03-31-17 06:46 AM
  13. Soulstream's Avatar
    Most accurate reason so far.

    Posted via CB10
    Actually, the aliens one seems much more reasonable.
    eshropshire likes this.
    03-31-17 06:53 AM
  14. menshawy's Avatar
    I wonder when the debate on this topic will stop.

    Posted via CB10
    03-31-17 08:55 AM
  15. eshropshire's Avatar
    Most accurate reason so far.

    Posted via CB10
    Or maybe 99.9% of phone buyers do know what they like. I know I do.
    03-31-17 12:03 PM
  16. nhatanh181's Avatar
    It was doomed because it focuses on security instead of bells and whistles.

    What do average consumer want? A phone that take nice picture, tons of Megapixels, fast processor to play game, an OS that can be "rooted", browser app takes split second to show, and goes on.

    Posted from BlackBerry Passport.
    03-31-17 12:10 PM
  17. thurask's Avatar
    Most accurate reason so far.

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    Why BlackBerry 10 was doomed.-cyj4uvc.jpg
    03-31-17 01:49 PM
  18. jayaguru's Avatar
    If BB gives all its app in free...

    Posted via CB10
    03-31-17 03:06 PM
  19. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    I wonder when the debate on this topic will stop.

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    03-31-17 10:18 PM

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