1. Marekf's Avatar
    Hello, I have a question, is it possible to uninstall system applications, thank you for the information
    09-22-20 11:57 AM
  2. brookie229's Avatar
    No, not possible.
    09-22-20 02:33 PM
  3. BB-nomade's Avatar
    Using DBBT and integration of DBBTDeleteIgnoreList, like the one below working pretty sweet for removing some of the bloat that is part of the BlackBerry system... yep not all BlackBerry App's can be removed but the once listed here will..

    Working for me and about 8 of my BlackBerry OS10 devices in a wink of effort.

    #####
    #This file contains a list of strings to look for in the BAR file MANIFEST.MF file package name.
    #Lines starting with # are ignored as comments
    #Blank lines, and lines with 3 or less letters are ignored.
    #Spaces at the beginning or end of a line are also ignored.
    #Lines starting with a ! are apps that will never be ignored/deleted. Useful for language files, list the one you want first, then a generic one to ignore/delete the rest.
    #This is useful to speed up installs if you want to always ignore sys.retaildemo for example
    #####
    #Example, always protect sys.data.imf.root - uncomment next 2 lines to protect english language, then allow the rest to be ignored/deleted
    com.amazon
    com.assetscience.BBVE
    com.evernote
    com.foursquare.blackberry
    com.linkedin
    com.twitter
    com.rim.bb.app.facebook
    com.rim.bb.app.retaildemoshim
    sys.android
    sys.android.shell
    sys.bug_reporter
    sys.cfs.box
    sys.cfs.dropbox
    !sys.data.imf.root
    !sys.data.imf.en_GB
    !sys.data.imf.de_DE
    !sys.data.imf.da_DK
    sys.data.imf.fr_FR
    sys.data.imf
    !sys.data.asr
    !sys.data.nuance_ve.common
    !sys.data.nuance_ve.ENG
    !sys.data.nuance_ve.ENG.kate
    !sys.data.nuance_ve.GED
    !sys.data.nuance_ve.GED.anna
    !sys.data.nuance_vocon.eng
    !sys.data.nuance_vocon.ged
    !sys.data.nuance_vocon.dad
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.frf
    sys.data.nuance
    sys.data.wallpaper
    #sys.firstlaunch
    #sys.fuse
    #sys.help
    #sys.howto
    #sys.mmagic
    sys.retaildemo
    #sys.setupbuffet
    sys.socialconnect.bbm.meetings
    sys.socialconnect.facebook
    sys.socialconnect.linkedin
    sys.socialconnect.twitter
    #sys.socialconnect.youtube
    sys.uri.bbhub
    sys.uri.textmessaging
    sys.uri.youtube
    #####

    This delete script for DBBT will free about 350MB of space on the device and declutter the amount of app's.

     Classic  Passport  OS10.3.3.3216
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    09-23-20 11:12 AM
  4. Marekf's Avatar
    thank you very much for information
    09-23-20 11:48 AM
  5. jarlodon's Avatar
    I have time to try...
    09-23-20 05:30 PM
  6. BB-nomade's Avatar
    Just a quick list of an older released OS10 but applies to the latest OS too, just the version numbers are different.. but gives a good overview of what app's are needed or junk or what are the individual BAR file are for... select the voice and language file's for what ever language you are able to manage in real live for word correction and delete the rest...

    Anyway this list gives you an idea of what which BAR file is for.

    Delete, no need to keep:
    - com.assetscience.BBVE: BB Virtual Expert.
    - com.evernote: Self-explanatory.
    - com.foursquare.blackberry: Self-explanatory.
    - com.linkedin: Self-explanatory.
    - com.rim.bb.app.facebook: Self-explanatory.
    - com.rim.bb.app.retaildemoshim: Retail demo. Useless 130MB.
    - com.twitter: Self-explanatory.
    - sys.bug_reporter_3: Doesn't seem do anything.
    - sys.bugreport: Doesn't seem to do anything.
    - sys.cfs.dropbox: Dropbox cloud storage.
    - sys.data.imf.*language*: Input languages.
    - sys.data.nuance_vocalizer: Voice Control.
    - sys.games: Self-explanatory.
    - sys.help: Self-explanatory.
    - sys.howto: Tutorials app.
    - sys.mmagic: Story Maker.
    - sys.retaildemo: Another retail demo. Not sure why.
    - sys.setupbuffet: Setup app.
    - sys.socialconnect.*etc*: Allows sharing to apps via share menu.
    - sys.uri.bbhub: BB Hub icon.
    - sys.uri.youtube: Youtube icon.

    com.rim.bb.app.retaildemoshim-127.1.0.47.bar Retail video
    sys.data.carrier_data-10.3.0.1533.bar carrier specific, since it's a leaked OS this is useless
    sys.data.imf.af_ZA-10.3.0.4.bar language files, find your language and delete the rest. Don't delete sys.data.imf.root
    sys.data.imf.ar_SA-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.ca_ES-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.cs_CZ-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.da_DK-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.el_GR-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.en_US-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.es_ES-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.eu_ES-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.fa_IR-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.fi_FI-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.fr_FR-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.gl_ES-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.he_IL-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.hg_IN-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.hi_IN-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.hr_HR-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.hu_HU-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.id_ID-10.3.0.5.bar
    sys.data.imf.it_IT-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.ja_JP-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.imf.jv_ID-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.kk_KZ-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.ko_KR-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.ms_MY-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.nb_NO-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.pl_PL-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.pt_BR-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.pt_PT-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.ro_RO-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.ru_RU-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.sk_SK-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.sl_SI-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.sr_RS-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.su_ID-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.sv_SE-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.th_TH-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.tl_PH-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.tr_TR-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.vi_VN-10.3.0.4.bar
    sys.data.imf.zh-10.3.0.11.bar end of language files
    sys.data.nuance_ve.CAH.sin_ji-10.3.0.1.bar

    Voice assistant files find your language and delete the others. Don't delete sys.data.nuance_ve_common and the two files of your language. You should end up with 3

    sys.data.nuance files in my case it's sys.data.nuance_ve_common, sys.data.nuance.ve_ENG.kate and sys.data.naunce.vocon.eng
    sys.data.nuance_ve.DUN.xander-10.3.0.2.bar
    sys.data.nuance_ve.ENU.ava-10.3.0.2.bar
    sys.data.nuance_ve.FRC.amelie-10.3.0.1.bar
    sys.data.nuance_ve.FRF.thomas-10.3.0.2.bar
    sys.data.nuance_ve.GED.anna-10.3.0.1.bar
    sys.data.nuance_ve.ITI.alice-10.3.0.1.bar
    sys.data.nuance_ve.JPJ.kyoko-10.3.0.1.bar
    sys.data.nuance_ve.KOK.sora-10.3.0.1.bar
    sys.data.nuance_ve.MNC.li_li-10.3.0.2.bar
    sys.data.nuance_ve.MNT.mei_jia-10.3.0.1.bar
    sys.data.nuance_ve.NON.nora-10.3.0.1.bar
    sys.data.nuance_ve.PLP.zosia-10.3.0.2.bar
    sys.data.nuance_ve.PTB.luciana-10.3.0.1.bar
    sys.data.nuance_ve.PTP.joana-10.3.0.2.bar
    sys.data.nuance_ve.RUR.milena-10.3.0.1.bar
    sys.data.nuance_ve.SPE.marisol-10.3.0.2.bar
    sys.data.nuance_ve.SPM.angelica-10.3.0.2.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.arw-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.bgb-10.3.0.5.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.cah-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.czc-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.dad-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.dun-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.ena-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.eni-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.enu-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.fif-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.frc-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.frf-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.ged-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.grg-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.iti-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.jpj-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.kok-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.mnc-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.mnt-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.non-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.plp-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.ptb-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.ptp-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.rur-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.spe-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.spm-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.sws-10.3.0.6.bar
    sys.data.nuance_vocon.trt-10.3.0.6.bar end
    sys.games-10.3.0.12.bar Games app, this is the app that tracked your friends and your game scores but it's useless without scoreloop

    sys.help-10.3.0.19.bar help file
    sys.howto-10.3.0.38.bar howto file that shows demo of certain things
    sys.retaildemo-10.3.0.46.bar retailmode, this is used in stores to show of the phone
    sys.uri.youtube-10.3.0.2.bar shortcut to youtube (you can also delete uri.hub and uri.message, these will delete the shortcuts to the hub and messages)

    Keep this: needed !!!!
    ----------------------------
    com.rim.bb.app.adobeReader: Self-explanatory.
    com.rim.bb.app.cardholder: Cardholder, like Passbook for iOS. Doesn't seem to be worked on.
    com.tcs.maps: Self-explanatory.
    sys.airtunes: Music player.
    sys.android: Self-explanatory.
    sys.android.shell: Not sure what this does.
    sys.appworld: Self-explanatory.
    sys.AudioRecorder: Self-explanatory.
    sys.authentication.clixel_plugin: Picture Password.
    sys.barcode: Self-explanatory.
    sys.bb_screen_reader: Self-explanatory.
    sys.bbm: Self-explanatory.
    sys.browser: Self-explanatory.
    sys.btviewer: Bluetooth viewer.
    sys.calculator: Self-explanatory.
    sys.camera: Self-explanatory.
    sys.cfs.box: Box cloud storage.
    sys.cfs.webdav.todtm: BlackBerry Link Remote File Access.
    sys.chat: Text messaging app.
    sys.chatblend: Something about SMS and Fuse mode (later on). Pre-alpha.
    sys.clock: Self-explanatory.
    sys.compass: Self-explanatory.
    sys.data.asr: Speech recognition.
    sys.data.bluetooth: Self explanatory.
    sys.data.carrier_data: Per-carrier device configuration.
    sys.data.imf.DE_de: Input languages.
    sys.data.imf.GB_en: Input languages.
    sys.data.imf.root: Keyboard.
    sys.data.pbcd: BlackBerry Link + drivers. Don't delete this.
    sys.data.quip.authtokens: Appears to be authentication tokens for various carriers.
    sys.data.wallpaper: Self explanatory.
    sys.data.zoneinfo: Time zone data.
    sys.deviceswitch: Self explanatory.
    sys.dxtg.*app*: Docs to Go.
    sys.escreens: Engineering Screens.
    sys.filepicker: File Manager, as invoked from within an app.
    sys.firstlaunch: OOBE.
    sys.fuse: Intended to be a desktop dashboard for your phone. Pre-alpha, really.
    sys.help: Self-explanatory.
    sys.hotspotBrowser: Internet hotspot login.
    sys.installhandlerui: APK installer.
    sys.invokeTargetSelection: Share menu.
    sys.mediaplayer: Media player, as invoked from within the File Manager.
    sys.mediastreamer: Media player, as invoked from within the Browser.
    sys.miracastviewer: Self explanatory.
    sys.NFCViewer: Self explanatory.
    sys.notification_card: Hub notifications.
    sys.paymentsystem: Self explanatory.
    sys.perimeterbrowser: File manager, standalone.
    sys.phone: Self explanatory.
    sys.phone_settings: Self explanatory.
    sys.pictureeditor: Self explanatory.
    sys.pictures: Self explanatory.
    sys.picturesviewer: Picture previewer app.
    sys.pim.attachments.card: Self explanatory.
    sys.pim.calendar: Self explanatory.
    sys.pim.calendar.viewer.eventcreate: Self explanatory.
    sys.pim.calendar.viewer.ics: ICS file support (calendar format).
    sys.pim.calendar.viewer.nav: Calendar event viewer.
    sys.pim.contacts: Self explanatory.
    sys.pim.email.card: Individual emails.
    sys.pim.email.composer.card: Compose email card.
    sys.pim.messages: Hub.
    sys.pim.provider.traveler-: IBM Traveler support.
    sys.pim.remember: Self explanatory.
    sys.places.cards: Places card, invoked when dealing locations.
    sys.rcse: Joyn.
    sys.search: Self explanatory.
    sys.settings: Self explanatory.
    sys.settings.accounts: Self explanatory.
    sys.simtoolkit_ui_app: SIM card management.
    sys.smartcalling: Smart calling (default line to dial).
    sys.smartcard: Self-explanatory.
    sys.smarttags: Smart Tags app.
    sys.sysmon: Device Monitor
    sys.uri.textmessaging: Text messaging icon.
    sys.video_editor: Self-explanatory.
    sys.videochat: Self-explanatory.
    sys.videoplayer: Self-explanatory.
    sys.Voice_Control: Self-explanatory.
    sys.voicemailcompose: Self-explanatory.
    sys.voicemailsetup: Self-explanatory.
    sys.weather: Self-explanatory.
    sys.wifisendcard: WiFi Direct GUI.
    sys.zbbiocm: I don't know what this does.

    And yep you can always install any of this BAR files with DBBT again by adding this to your device, but make sure you got this unpacked from the Aoutolader as single files on your PC to do so as a backup in case you may need any of this later on.

     Classic  Passport  OS10.3.3.3216
    bbfanfan, brookie229 and gouger05 like this.
    09-24-20 05:14 AM
  7. brookie229's Avatar
    Just a quick list of an older released OS10 but applies to the latest OS too, just the version numbers are different.. but gives a good overview of what app's are needed or junk or what are the individual BAR file are for... select the voice and language file's for what ever language you are able to manage in real live for word correction and delete the rest...
    Ah yes - my bad. Totally forgot about deleting all the language/voice files. I've done that before on my Z10 and Passport !
    09-24-20 09:27 AM
  8. jrsva2008's Avatar
    Question...Any real speed gained from these deletions? My Classic is running along nicely. What improvement might I see from this?
    10-01-20 12:53 AM
  9. BB-nomade's Avatar
    Question...Any real speed gained from these deletions? My Classic is running along nicely. What improvement might I see from this?
    The main improvement is that your device memory is getting more available space by about 380MB for operational purpose, apart from that your amount of stupid never used icons on the device desktop ie lesser cluttered.
    Your device will just be sleeker and less cluttered.
    Look at it as a spring-cleaning task...

     Classic  Passport  OS10.3.3.3216
    10-01-20 03:25 AM
  10. conite's Avatar
    The main improvement is that your device memory is getting more available space by about 380MB for operational purpose, apart from that your amount of stupid never used icons on the device desktop ie lesser cluttered.
    Your device will just be sleeker and less cluttered.
    Look at it as a spring-cleaning task...

     Classic  Passport  OS10.3.3.3216
    Device storage - not memory. Just to avoid confusion.
    10-01-20 07:04 AM
  11. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    Question...Any real speed gained from these deletions? My Classic is running along nicely. What improvement might I see from this?
    None really, unless your running short of storage.... otherwise, if it ain't broke... don't try fixing it.

    This is something that Q5 and Z3 owners might want to look into doing.... or if you have really loaded up on apps.
    10-01-20 07:57 AM
  12. BB-nomade's Avatar
    In practice this roughly 380MB more on free space can give you that extra edge, for instance making a backup via a app like BackupPro" that needs a lot of device storage to be able to finish a large backup file like if you got lot's of images, documents and such, before it can finally copy that backup file some where else, be it the microSD or a cloud storage. But for processing it creates very large TMP files on the device itself.

    Had it more than once that the device storage was bogged up for that reason, as well if you don't care moving camera images right to the microSD and instead let them stay on the device, it will soon fill up making your device slow and sluggish, may even hindering app's to start if there is not enough storage left... all adding up...the device has only a limited amound of space to work on... hope his explaining it in more detail...

     Classic  Passport  OS10.3.3.3216
    10-01-20 08:00 AM
  13. jrsva2008's Avatar
    Thats helpful all. Thanks!
    10-01-20 11:58 PM
  14. lolo9269's Avatar
    could we delete without a autoloader.
    10-02-20 10:03 AM
  15. brookie229's Avatar
    could we delete without a autoloader.
    You don't need an autoloader but you need to do it on your computer using either a program called Sachesi or DBBT.
    10-02-20 10:10 AM
  16. lolo9269's Avatar
    You don't need an autoloader but you need to do it on your computer using either a program called Sachesi or DBBT.
    Thanks with sachechi could we delete system file like language like dbbt.
    10-02-20 10:16 AM
  17. brookie229's Avatar
    Thanks with sachechi could we delete system file like language like dbbt.
    Yes, they both work similarly.
    10-02-20 10:23 AM
  18. lolo9269's Avatar
    Yes, they both work similarly.
    Witch file i must modify in sachesi
    10-02-20 10:27 AM
  19. brookie229's Avatar
    Witch file i must modify in sachesi
    Follow BB-nomade's guide in post #6.
    10-02-20 10:31 AM
  20. lolo9269's Avatar
    Thanks
    10-02-20 10:39 AM

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