Is there any way to develop for the BlackBerry 10 now?
- No, he's trying to say it's all well and good to bat around theories of how things might work, but there's not going to be anyone ever making them a reality. There's a difference between an interesting topic and viable business interest.01-13-20 01:01 PMLike 0
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If BlackBerry were going to do what you want.... they would have done it back then when the had the people to do it - and a lot more customers than they do now. But it wasn't a viable business model then, and it's even less so today.01-13-20 01:50 PMLike 0 - Anyway we are off track again.... this isn't about bring back BB10.
Is it possible for developer to keep creating apps for BB10. Sound like for right now if they really want to they can... at least for themselves. Can they create them and offer them to others?01-13-20 01:55 PMLike 0 - Essentially replacing the underlying OS with the 64-bit QNX 7 to allow full use of RAM and the possibility of a 64-bit version of Android Pie or newer. This would allow underlying system functions and fixes to track with the currently supported OS. There would be an update to the native browser with no UX changes.
So let's say we had two phones in front of us. Phone A is running a current fork of AOSP (no google) on top of Linux. And Phone B is running the same fork of AOSP (no google) on top of QNX.
And presumably the whole reason we even have an up-to-date Android runtime is to run apps (otherwise what's the point), so let's assume the same set of apps on both phones.
Of all the privacy exploits that have happened in the past 5 years, how many of them are precluded on the QNX phone? I would argue next to none. The privacy issues that normal people face on phones have everything to do with apps and the services they access with those apps. I've never heard of a normal person's privacy being compromised by a kernel level exploit on a device. High value targets, yes, but what about normal people?Last edited by app_Developer; 01-13-20 at 09:23 PM.
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- My question was specifically about privacy. Given the two phones i laid out above, why is one more privacy preserving than the other for a normal user?01-15-20 01:57 PMLike 0
- The CEOs decision to EOL BB10 was based on the fact that it had failed with previous management and he was hired to successfully transfer the company away from mobile.01-15-20 01:59 PMLike 0
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Of course BB was also late with high PPI screens and other stuff too.01-15-20 02:00 PMLike 0 -
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End of BBMo isn't the signal for BlackBerry to do something new in smartphones...01-15-20 02:27 PMLike 0 -
This is also intended to be foundational and a minimalist approach to keep costs as low as possible yet still generate sales of an autoloader. To allow a direction forward that considers customers (including developers) as stakeholders. Something very different from how BlackBerry has done business in the past. Could bring back BBM channels as a means to solicit input for a roadmap.01-15-20 03:15 PMLike 0 - What you are not considering is how the use of QNX 7 fits with BlackBerry's IoT direction which includes cars.
This is also intended to be foundational and a minimalist approach to keep costs as low as possible yet still generate sales of an autoloader. To allow a direction forward that considers customers (including developers) as stakeholders. Something very different from how BlackBerry has done business in the past. Could bring back BBM channels as a means to solicit input for a roadmap.
Heck might as well kick Chen to the curb, and start by signing up Mike and Jim to co-lead the BlackBerry revival. Then bring back the 9900 and BIS.01-15-20 03:55 PMLike 0 - What you are not considering is how the use of QNX 7 fits with BlackBerry's IoT direction which includes cars.
This is also intended to be foundational and a minimalist approach to keep costs as low as possible yet still generate sales of an autoloader. To allow a direction forward that considers customers (including developers) as stakeholders. Something very different from how BlackBerry has done business in the past. Could bring back BBM channels as a means to solicit input for a roadmap.01-15-20 03:56 PMLike 0 - What you are not considering is how the use of QNX 7 fits with BlackBerry's IoT direction which includes cars.
This is also intended to be foundational and a minimalist approach to keep costs as low as possible yet still generate sales of an autoloader. To allow a direction forward that considers customers (including developers) as stakeholders. Something very different from how BlackBerry has done business in the past. Could bring back BBM channels as a means to solicit input for a roadmap.JeepBB likes this.01-15-20 03:57 PMLike 1 - What you are not considering is how the use of QNX 7 fits with BlackBerry's IoT direction which includes cars.
This is also intended to be foundational and a minimalist approach to keep costs as low as possible yet still generate sales of an autoloader. To allow a direction forward that considers customers (including developers) as stakeholders. Something very different from how BlackBerry has done business in the past. Could bring back BBM channels as a means to solicit input for a roadmap.01-15-20 04:01 PMLike 0 -
When you raise that money offer it to BB to fund real feasibility study.conite and app_Developer like this.01-15-20 04:02 PMLike 2 -
I am suggesting using existing products (like Samsung Knox) not having BB return to producing hardware. In return for not changing any manufacturing lines and not making any investments in hardware means no PKB.01-15-20 04:16 PMLike 0 -
If you go to the same websites and use the same apps then it doesn't really matter what kernel you have (except maybe for the exceptional case where you are a specific high value target)
Or conversely, if I'm on BB mgmt team I'm asking why am I investing in our own fork of Android over QNX when I can just use Linux? What customer pain point is this solving? But then 5 seconds later I'm asking wait, why am I investing in phone anything?01-15-20 04:28 PMLike 0 -
Also, BB10 has been an island among BlackBerry platforms. Upgrading the OS to 64-bit QNX 7 may help ameliorate this issue.01-15-20 05:00 PMLike 0 - So that's the thing, a normal customer, who isn't a card-carrying BB fan, doesn't really care that QNX is part of BB's overall strategy. A normal customer wants to understand why this Android *** QNX phone is more private than normal Android. And the honest answer is that it isn't any more private for most users.
If you go to the same websites and use the same apps then it doesn't really matter what kernel you have (except maybe for the exceptional case where you are a specific high value target)
Or conversely, if I'm on BB mgmt team I'm asking why am I investing in our own fork of Android over QNX when I can just use Linux? What customer pain point is this solving? But then 5 seconds later I'm asking wait, why am I investing in phone anything?
You clearly don't believe QNX should exist beyond cars. Probably because you don't believe it provides advantages worth the cost. I think the advantages have yet to be realized.01-15-20 05:17 PMLike 0 - Create a new thread with a poll and ask how many would like to see a new BB10 released and your bulletpoints of what this new BB10 would look like (ie: Apps support, android version support etc) vs more devices using the BB Secure Android using TCL or whoever with Android 10+
That should give you all the feedback you need on whether you can stop with the endless dreaming or actually do something besides ramble on here with no planThud Hardsmack likes this.01-15-20 05:17 PMLike 1
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