Is there any way to develop for the BlackBerry 10 now?
- Is it possible to develop BlackBerry 10 apps for personal use now? I have obtained a debug token, but it is valid only for a year. Is there any way to sign an app that can run without expiry?
Also, I am thinking of other ways, like using userland gcc and compile apps on the phone. Or if nothing works, just write some web apps.
Is there any way to a signing key? I have a signing key, but I forgot its password.
Any ideas on how to get the development going? Also, it sucks that the dev tools do not work on Catalina due to 32-bit Java requirement.12-28-19 02:58 AMLike 0 - Is it possible to develop BlackBerry 10 apps for personal use now? I have obtained a debug token, but it is valid only for a year. Is there any way to sign an app that can run without expiry?
Also, I am thinking of other ways, like using userland gcc and compile apps on the phone. Or if nothing works, just write some web apps.
Is there any way to a signing key? I have a signing key, but I forgot its password.
Any ideas on how to get the development going? Also, it sucks that the dev tools do not work on Catalina due to 32-bit Java requirement.12-28-19 09:54 AMLike 0 - Is it possible to develop BlackBerry 10 apps for personal use now? I have obtained a debug token, but it is valid only for a year. Is there any way to sign an app that can run without expiry?
Also, I am thinking of other ways, like using userland gcc and compile apps on the phone. Or if nothing works, just write some web apps.
Is there any way to a signing key? I have a signing key, but I forgot its password.
Any ideas on how to get the development going? Also, it sucks that the dev tools do not work on Catalina due to 32-bit Java requirement.
Posted via CB10int3h likes this.12-28-19 12:36 PMLike 1 -
Sure. I will share if I get it somewhereLast edited by int3h; 12-28-19 at 01:53 PM.
12-28-19 01:07 PMLike 0 -
- It would be nice if there were some people who could build some key apps (I wish that I had the time and skills to) because despite the age of the hardware and OS (I currently run a Passport and a Z30 for daily drivers with very heavy use) they perform exceptionally well with what they do. They just don't 'feel old'...my Keyone (thought that I would cash in a 'free' upgrade for one a year or so ago) just doesn't out pace either BlackBerry in tasks I need to do to get through the day...I do use the K1 for Facebook and some YouTube.
For example, if I had a better Facebook, Linkedin and YouTube apps that were native and not ports or Web versions I would be 100% Z30 and Passport. I do use a few older Android apps (from Cobalts Play Store setup) that work as if they were native on my Z30...a time sheet app and a handful of machine access apps (I'm a millwright). Both phones STILL push through the whole day easily (Z30 gets about 11 hours normally and my Passport will pull down 20-30 hours depending on use on their original batteries.
I'm hoping that there are still enough clever hardcore users that may start up something...and just as original BlackBerry native apps...I don't mind (as I'm sure others as well) paying for them either.
Here's to hoping as my phones albeit OLD (in technology years) still just work better than other stuff out there...
Posted on my Powerful Passportbbfanfan likes this.12-28-19 06:51 PMLike 1 - Problem is that most apps, like the ones you mentioned, no longer use public APIs. This means that one cannot make a native app without breaking the law.12-28-19 07:36 PMLike 0
- Yeah, APIs are the issue. Maybe the industrial machines have public (standardized) access?
For those who don’t know what APIs are, an example: if my app allows a user to reply to a message on FB, then I have to take the reply from my user and I have to actually send that reply to FB on her behalf with her credentials. I need to use a FB API to do that, and those APIs are much more closed now than they used to be years ago. Same with LinkedIn. And remember there are dozens of different things that a user would like to do in a session and the APIs have to support all of them for the app to be useful.12-28-19 08:27 PMLike 3 - Yeah, APIs are the issue. Maybe the industrial machines have public (standardized) access?
For those who don’t know what APIs are, an example: if my app allows a user to reply to a message on FB, then I have to take the reply from my user and I have to actually send that reply to FB on her behalf with her credentials. I need to use a FB API to do that, and those APIs are much more closed now than they used to be years ago. Same with LinkedIn. And remember there are dozens of different things that a user would like to do in a session and the APIs have to support all of them for the app to be useful.Dunt Dunt Dunt and john_v like this.12-28-19 08:29 PMLike 2 - Ah! Came across this: BlackBerry links Code Signing Keys to BlackBerry ID for developers. So that solves the code signing issue.
12-29-19 09:14 AMLike 0 - Yeah, APIs are the issue. Maybe the industrial machines have public (standardized) access?
For those who don’t know what APIs are, an example: if my app allows a user to reply to a message on FB, then I have to take the reply from my user and I have to actually send that reply to FB on her behalf with her credentials. I need to use a FB API to do that, and those APIs are much more closed now than they used to be years ago. Same with LinkedIn. And remember there are dozens of different things that a user would like to do in a session and the APIs have to support all of them for the app to be useful.John Albert likes this.12-29-19 10:57 AMLike 1 - Yes! That is definitely something people should consider. Especially with some of these “apps” we’ve seen in BBWorld that are nothing more than wrappers around a website. You have to trust the website AND the developer of the app which can now see every single thing you put in, including your password to that site.
If the app is using official APIs and modern then at least the password will be safe. But I’ve seen banking apps in Chinese app stores that definitely saw people’s banking passwords.Last edited by app_Developer; 12-29-19 at 02:01 PM.
John Albert and Laura Knotek like this.12-29-19 01:17 PMLike 2 -
- FaceBook's leaks, I would guess, is because the access restrictions are implemented in the user interface and not enabled on the servers. Because of this, the API has no restrictions.
I never looked at the company's SDK/API or delved into its backends, but it makes things much easier if you don't build granular (per user) security in at the foundational level and only have to pretend in the browser.12-30-19 07:40 PMLike 0 - FaceBook's leaks, I would guess, is because the access restrictions are implemented in the user interface and not enabled on the servers. Because of this, the API has no restrictions.
I never looked at the company's SDK/API or delved into it backends, but it makes things much easier if you don't build granular (per user) security in at the foundational level and only have to pretend in the browser.12-30-19 07:43 PMLike 0 - FaceBook's leaks, I would guess, is because the access restrictions are implemented in the user interface and not enabled on the servers. Because of this, the API has no restrictions.
I never looked at the company's SDK/API or delved into its backends, but it makes things much easier if you don't build granular (per user) security in at the foundational level and only have to pretend in the browser.12-30-19 08:27 PMLike 0 -
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I don't know when debug tokens ended (of even if they did). I haven't used the SDK in years.12-31-19 12:24 AMLike 0 -
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