Still NO ReplayGain support on the BlackBerry 10 built-in music player?!
-
- My solution for sound manipulation is Audacity. Runs under windows, mac and linux. I don't use replay gain so for tracks that play too quietly (or loudly) I import into audacity, tweak them as necessary and re-encode them. Nice program also for trimming intros/outros and editing minor imperfections in sound files. Freeware. Don't let that fool you; a full audio edit suite with support for numerous file formats and numerous effect and tools available.10-14-15 09:46 PMLike 0
- My solution for sound manipulation is Audacity. Runs under windows, mac and linux. I don't use replay gain so for tracks that play too quietly (or loudly) I import into audacity, tweak them as necessary and re-encode them. Nice program also for trimming intros/outros and editing minor imperfections in sound files. Freeware. Don't let that fool you; a full audio edit suite with support for numerous file formats and numerous effect and tools available.10-16-15 06:44 PMLike 0
- ronfcRecovering CrackBerry Addict
And for the record, I don't use lossless audio on my Z30 because it's just a waste of space and processing power, it won't amount to anything if you cannot hear the difference.
My solution for sound manipulation is Audacity. Runs under windows, mac and linux. I don't use replay gain so for tracks that play too quietly (or loudly) I import into audacity, tweak them as necessary and re-encode them. Nice program also for trimming intros/outros and editing minor imperfections in sound files. Freeware. Don't let that fool you; a full audio edit suite with support for numerous file formats and numerous effect and tools available.10-18-15 02:59 AMLike 0 - Lossy formats are what they are and sometimes that's all that is available. For me the benefits of cleaning up a sound file out weigh the known trade offs in sound quality. When editing spoken word or comedy tracks I really can't tell the difference. To be honest I don't ABX the music files I re-encode but assume the slight (usually) increase in volume will mask most of the fidelity loss and I am happy with the results I hear.
Last edited by glamrlama; 10-18-15 at 06:43 AM.
10-18-15 06:29 AMLike 0 - ronfcRecovering CrackBerry AddictLossy formats are what they are and sometimes that's all that is available. For me the benefits of cleaning up a sound file out weigh the known trade offs in sound quality. When editing spoken word or comedy tracks I really can't tell the difference. To be honest I don't ABX the music files I re-encode but assume the slight (usually) increase in volume will mask most of the fidelity loss and I am happy with the results I hear.10-18-15 09:08 AMLike 0
- Wow, everyone is getting riled up! Let's see what we can do...
AAC can achieve the same transparency level with lower bit rates than MP3, which also means lower file sizes, but saying MP3 is not doing great even on 320 kbps is simply not entirely true. While there is indeed "killer samples" or passages which proved difficult for the MP3 encoder to encode, it is also the same for the AAC encoder. And as the saying goes, even though the audio technology has improved and will be further improved in the future, our ears have not. I'm a big believer of the ABX, and I myself with all honesty, cannot tell the difference between the FLAC and the 190 kbps VBR MP3. Unless you have tested and proven to yourself that A is better than B, everything is just placebo, my friend.
Lossy formats are what they are and sometimes that's all that is available. For me the benefits of cleaning up a sound file out weigh the known trade offs in sound quality. When editing spoken word or comedy tracks I really can't tell the difference. To be honest I don't ABX the music files I re-encode but assume the slight (usually) increase in volume will mask most of the fidelity loss and I am happy with the results I hear.10-18-15 12:49 PMLike 0 - ronfcRecovering CrackBerry AddictI've personally done a 320kbps MP3 ABX test with the help from a friend. I always got it right. What gave it away? The cymbals/high-hats. They sound absolutely terrible with MP3 even at 320kbps. The technical reason is that AAC is capable of reproducing frequencies up to 22KHz, whereas MP3 has a hard cutoff at 16KHz, even at 320kbps.10-18-15 10:59 PMLike 0
- I hope you do realize that MP3s have different implementations, different encoders. That means the 320 kbps output of Windows Media Player might be different on iTunes. As of now, the highest quality encoder is called LAME MP3 encoder (the one used in foobar2000) version 3.99.5. I suggest you look into that. And also, while AAC might be capable of reproducing frequencies up to 22KHz, it doesn't really matter to us humans since we can only hear 20Hz to 20kHz of the audio spectrum, well, except if you are a dog, cat, or bat.10-19-15 10:00 AMLike 0
- Run some test signals in your favourite player and your best cans. I'm down to about 13kHz! I certainly don't listen to music at the volumes I used to and wear hearing protection any time I am in any noisy (non musical) environment.10-19-15 04:50 PMLike 0
-
That means, my previous points in this topic are valid, well at least to my ears
Posted via my Dell Mobile Workstation - bring back signatures!10-27-15 08:18 PMLike 0 - ronfcRecovering CrackBerry AddictI have just tried this, and I can tell you that at 21 years of age, going to countless nightclubs and the daily use of a 1200W sound system in my bedroom, somehow miraculously, I can still hear up to between 18.5KHz and 19KHz.
That means, my previous points in this topic are valid, well at least to my ears
Posted via my Dell Mobile Workstation - bring back signatures!DrBoomBotz likes this.10-27-15 11:06 PMLike 1 - Or just blessed.
In the end, I ended up buying a headphone amplifier, which has a built-in EQ and can belt out 200mW of power (depending on Ω), so now I can just disable the device EQ and the distortion/clipping is gone! (Except for songs which have been clipped as a result of total s**t mastering )
So not the best solution because some tracks still have different volumes. I just adjust the volume on the headphone amp to low when changing songs.Last edited by Someone7272; 10-28-15 at 07:53 PM.
10-28-15 07:42 PMLike 0 - Just tried the test with this sample
For me perceived loudness drops sharply ~8khz and can't hear anything after ~13.5khz.
10 minutes have past and I am still hearing "ginger ale" between my ears and I have a mild headache.10-28-15 08:51 PMLike 0 -
Find a WAV or non-compressed version (like the one here) and try it again, the results might surprise you. This was the one I used.10-30-15 03:26 PMLike 0 - Due to YouTube's extremely poor lossy audio compression technologies which cuts out frequencies above 16KHz (approx), this immediately voids the credibility of this kind of test.
Find a WAV or non-compressed version (like the one here) and try it again, the results might surprise you. This was the one I used.10-30-15 04:15 PMLike 0 - Due to YouTube's extremely poor lossy audio compression technologies which cuts out frequencies above 16KHz (approx), this immediately voids the credibility of this kind of test.
Find a WAV or non-compressed version (like the one here) and try it again, the results might surprise you. This was the one I used.10-30-15 07:07 PMLike 0 - Fair enough. Just double checking. I could go to 18.5KHz to 19KHz before completely losing the audio. I did encounter a fairly steep rolloff around 16KHz but could still hear the signal up to 18KHz before it started getting difficult.
I guess not all human hearing is equal, I must be one of the lucky ones.
This topic seems to show that people around 30-35 can still head up to 17KHz, so either you're older, have damaged hearing, or just plain unlucky.10-30-15 07:20 PMLike 0 - Fair enough. Just double checking. I could go to 18.5KHz to 19KHz before completely losing the audio. I did encounter a fairly steep rolloff around 16KHz but could still hear the signal up to 18KHz before it started getting difficult.
I guess not all human hearing is equal, I must be one of the lucky ones.
This topic seems to show that people around 30-35 can still head up to 17KHz, so either you're older, have damaged hearing, or just plain unlucky.10-30-15 07:37 PMLike 0
- Forum
- BlackBerry 10 Phones & OS
- BlackBerry 10 OS
Still NO ReplayGain support on the BlackBerry 10 built-in music player?!
Similar Threads
-
The three horizontal dots under App Icons: what could they mean?
By MrGlenn in forum BlackBerry PrivReplies: 63Last Post: 12-30-16, 06:21 PM -
Where to find an blackberry passport silver in dubai without Arabic keyboard?
By wawapumaa in forum BlackBerry PassportReplies: 3Last Post: 09-30-15, 06:24 AM -
BlackBerry clearly making inroads back into everyday tech media
By sebstarr in forum BlackBerry PrivReplies: 4Last Post: 09-29-15, 07:47 PM -
Is this the beginning of the end for Crackberry?
By Jakob Greve in forum Site and App Feedback & HelpReplies: 1Last Post: 09-29-15, 05:02 PM -
Is this the beginning of the end for Crackberry
By Jakob Greve in forum Ask a QuestionReplies: 0Last Post: 09-29-15, 04:57 PM
LINK TO POST COPIED TO CLIPBOARD