12-11-19 10:28 AM
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  1. Akis Tsirogiannis's Avatar
    Hey guys,

    I am using my Passport SE for years now, but I have a spare one OG left unopened. It should be my Backup once the SE brakes - but so far it's working like day one. I am reading the forums and am aware of the EOL, but also of the extended life support that was just announced. Therefore a very conrete question:

    Is it smart to open my sealed PP now, login and install all the apps I want as long as BB Worls is working, or should I relax and wait due to the extende life support?

    Thanks!
    elfabio80 likes this.
    11-26-19 06:51 AM
  2. z10Jobe's Avatar
    I opened mine recently and loaded apps even though my silver one was working fine.
    Q10SQN100-1/10.3.3.3216

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    11-26-19 07:46 AM
  3. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    AFAIK... they haven't extended anything, only clarified what was not being shutdown.

    There are some rumors here that BBW won't be shutdown, but that hasn't been confirmed by BlackBerry. Until it's official I'd make plans to utilize what you can, while you can.
    11-26-19 09:25 AM
  4. eshropshire's Avatar
    I agree with the others. To be prudent I would activate the phone and load any BBWorld apps you want.
    11-26-19 06:47 PM
  5. John Albert's Avatar
    I already turned on 17 of my BlackBerry devices (11 are brand new and sealed) that run BB10 and BBOS and spent my entire day off downloading apps and silly games from BlackBerry World.

    It is gonna be a paperweight without the app store, and I really hate apps side loading. Most of the apps didn't work for me.
    11-26-19 07:57 PM
  6. EFats's Avatar
    Exactly the same situation. I pulled out that OG, updated the OS, restored my SE backup and proceeding to load any missing stuff from BBWorld.

    It's a nice phone, it's meant to be used, not a paperweight



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    11-26-19 08:23 PM
  7. Akis Tsirogiannis's Avatar
    Can I use my SE backup to play it on to the OG if I Open it? Or are they not compatible?

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    12-03-19 05:15 PM
  8. Ben xfg's Avatar
    Can I use my SE backup to play it on to the OG if I Open it? Or are they not compatible?

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    As long as both are signed in with the identical BBID it will work fine.

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    12-03-19 05:35 PM
  9. Akis Tsirogiannis's Avatar
    As long as both are signed in with the identical BBID it will work fine.

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    They will be, cause that way I can access all my apps. If that works, I don't have to open the sealed OG yet, right?

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    12-03-19 05:47 PM
  10. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    They will be, cause that way I can access all my apps. If that works, I don't have to open the sealed OG yet, right?

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    Why risk any problems? You could end up, with a sealed paperweight.
    12-03-19 06:11 PM
  11. bb10adopter111's Avatar
    I already turned on 17 of my BlackBerry devices (11 are brand new and sealed) that run BB10 and BBOS and spent my entire day off downloading apps and silly games from BlackBerry World.

    It is gonna be a paperweight without the app store, and I really hate apps side loading. Most of the apps didn't work for me.
    I'd miss a couple of apps from the app store (including CB), but I could easily use my Bb10 phone for another 7 years with nothing more than the Hub, Remember, Music, Video and Picture apps that come installed with any autoloader. Not that I think I'll get seven more years, but lack of the app store won't be the reason.

    From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.
    12-03-19 07:03 PM
  12. WES51's Avatar
    Wondering about the original thread starter question, I'm probalby missing something, but wouldn't you then end up having the same BBID on more than one device? Is that possible?
    12-03-19 08:29 PM
  13. brookie229's Avatar
    Is that possible?
    Certainly is possible. I have 2 BB10 devices and my PlayBook all with same BBID.
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    12-03-19 08:41 PM
  14. Ben xfg's Avatar
    They will be, cause that way I can access all my apps. If that works, I don't have to open the sealed OG yet, right?

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    Well I can't think of anything that would force you to open it... but why not err on the side of caution and open it anyway? Is there a benefit leaving it sealed?

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    12-03-19 08:51 PM
  15. Ben xfg's Avatar
    Certainly is possible. I have 2 BB10 devices and my PlayBook all with same BBID.
    Except BBM. That is limited to one device at a time.

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    12-03-19 08:53 PM
  16. brookie229's Avatar
    Except BBM. That is limited to one device at a time.

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    Yep -- haven't used BBM in over a year now though.

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    12-03-19 09:00 PM
  17. the_boon's Avatar
    Honestly I'd sell it now if it's still sealed cause you may get more money out of it and then use part of that money towards a used PPSE if you really want one even after 12/31/2019 and you'll still have leftover money.
    12-03-19 09:04 PM
  18. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Actually, you’d want to update that Passport by 12/31/2019 to make sure it’s up to date to communicate properly with the backend servers. I’m not an IT guy but I had to update some old Apple devices recently or risk losing some connectivity. These were EOL iOS devices.

    I doubt your sealed OG is running the latest 10.3.3 and while there are the autoloaders, what else is out there needing updates? Forgive my ignorance but, if you’re saving a sealed Passport OG for some other reason, like Beanie Babies in cellophane bags or NASCAR die cast collectibles from 1999-2000 then you’ll probably be real disappointed.
    12-04-19 08:32 AM
  19. EFats's Avatar
    They will be, cause that way I can access all my apps. If that works, I don't have to open the sealed OG yet, right?

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    You have to open it up and do it soon.
    You can't restore your SE backup to the OG if the OS versions don't match.

    Yes you could potentially use autoloader, but not sure if there will be any issues with activation next year.
    Also, BlackBerry Link backup for EVERYTHING is a bit flaky right now. Try it first. You may find it only works if you leave some apps off the list so you'd need to recover that from BBWORLD

    Unless you have a buyer lined up willing to pay through the nose for a sealed OG...

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    12-04-19 04:48 PM
  20. Ben xfg's Avatar
    You can't restore your SE backup to the OG if the OS versions don't match.
    Really?

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    12-04-19 09:21 PM
  21. eshropshire's Avatar
    They will be, cause that way I can access all my apps. If that works, I don't have to open the sealed OG yet, right?

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    I would get it out and set it up just like you want and then put it back in the box. Like Chuck said why take any chance. Know one knows how long the backend services will stay running. My guess is at least 2 months, but if things get worse for BlackBerry Limited they may shut them at any time.

    Working on the business side of Enterprise software, I would guess the plan is for 12-18 months baring a server meltdown issue. My guess is the infrastructure hosting these services are pretty old. I doubt they would spend money to replace any of them if they had a major fault.

    BTW, what is the big deal about keeping it sealed? If anything to preserve the phone for long term use you should get it out and cycle the battery.
    Last edited by eshropshire; 12-05-19 at 02:16 AM.
    12-04-19 10:36 PM
  22. Akis Tsirogiannis's Avatar
    Thanks a lot for your replys. That made me think again about it. Maybe I should open it and get it ready for the future then. My thought was that as long as I use the SE (and in general a Passport), I should leave it sealed, cause if I sell it it might be worth more than opened. But I guess this is a special case where it could end up a brick indeed. Mmh....
    12-05-19 03:39 AM
  23. howarmat's Avatar
    Really?

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    i dont think it happens all the time but yes sometimes different OS versions dont restore correctly but I think it was 10.3 vs 10.2 and not so much 10.3.3 vs 10.3.2 type of thing.
    12-05-19 09:45 AM
  24. conite's Avatar
    Really?

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    The device that you are restoring to must be on the same or greater OS for it to work.

    Although, I think only Link does that check.
    12-05-19 09:50 AM
  25. joeldf's Avatar
    Depending on how long it's been boxed, I'd worry about the battery that's likely been drained to 0 for a long time.

    Sure, it will charge back up, but a dead battery just sitting there will lose capacity as it ages with no use. How much depends on who you ask, and maybe it won't be noticeable... but it's something to consider.
    12-05-19 10:40 AM
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