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  1. pttptppt's Avatar
    Was just reading up on the famous DHabkirk's BBM Channel when I saw this:
    (rumor) 10.3.1 being released directly by BlackBerry!!!-img_20150119_164517.png

    So basically, rumor has it that we won't have to wait for Carriers to release os updates anymore!

    Posted via CB10
    01-19-15 03:47 PM
  2. tanzarian's Avatar
    Great news!

     Z30 - 10.3.1.1949
    01-19-15 03:49 PM
  3. D3C0D3R's Avatar
    I've now seen a number of usually credible sources saying this, maybe BlackBerry has more influence with the carriers than we thought?

    Could it be that BlackBerry wants to push them directly and basically told carriers "we need to be able to patch our OS much quicker and release directly to our customers due to our high-profile users needing the most up-to-date security on their mobile devices" or something?

    Just throwing words out here hoping someone reads that and gets what I meant!

    Praise be unto our Lord Squircle | Passport SQW100-1/10.3.1.1154
    01-19-15 03:53 PM
  4. FrankIAm's Avatar
    I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon, but it'd make my year.

    Huge step in the right direction, if true.

    Dylan is a credible source, though.
    01-19-15 04:00 PM
  5. conite's Avatar
    If true, I think BlackBerry must believe its relationship with carriers is so bad right now, they don't care if they p$ss them off.

    I can just imagine the onslaught of support calls to the carriers, on an OS they've never even seen! LOL


    Z30STA100-5/10.3.1.1949
    01-19-15 04:00 PM
  6. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    I've now seen a number of usually credible sources saying this, maybe BlackBerry has more influence with the carriers than we thought?

    Could it be that BlackBerry wants to push them directly and basically told carriers "we need to be able to patch our OS much quicker and release directly to our customers due to our high-profile users needing the most up-to-date security on their mobile devices" or something?

    Just throwing words out here hoping someone reads that and gets what I meant!

    Praise be unto our Lord Squircle | Passport SQW100-1/10.3.1.1154
    Which high profile users? I suspect the ones with that type of pull don't use consumer grade BBs anyway.
    gfondeur likes this.
    01-19-15 04:03 PM
  7. moosbb's Avatar
    Don't forget that when you bypass the carrier approval procedure, you have to make sure your OS handle well their's network.
    Every BB10 user that played with leaks and such noticed a drastic behaviour of the data network reception depending on the radio part of the OS.

    Push direct is nice, but then please make sure you hard tested for all concerned networks (not a little pain), and prepare yourself for users support!

    By the way, I wish they could direct sale too! ;p
    But problem is the same, you must have the right shape for it (as Apple for exemple), and unfortunately we are far to that point (yet? )
    For direct sale you need way more ressources...


    But let's see if that just a rumor yet!

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    01-19-15 04:10 PM
  8. thurask's Avatar
    I'm not buying the third bullet point. Second makes the most sense.
    01-19-15 04:21 PM
  9. dibbis's Avatar
    Saw this in. Another post
    (rumor) 10.3.1 being released directly by BlackBerry!!!-crackberry-image.jpg

    Posted via CB10
    01-19-15 05:03 PM
  10. howarmat's Avatar
    They might have gotten carriers to approve and had to wait for them and that is what the delay was for all we know. We will find out on the 27th though
    01-19-15 05:07 PM
  11. bloodyrek's Avatar
    I wouldn't push 10.3.1.2072 if I was to give a go on the OTA updates.

    /2cents

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    chalx likes this.
    01-19-15 05:09 PM
  12. blackbird666's Avatar
    7 days to go then... :P

    Passport SQW100-1 / 10.3.1.1154
    01-19-15 05:20 PM
  13. prithvi64's Avatar
    Excellent move by BlackBerry for the benefit of customers. Carriers have been lousy. My span of 8 yrs, I never used official OS.
    eduzojordan likes this.
    01-19-15 07:24 PM
  14. ealvnv's Avatar
    BlackBerry could release it globally if testing is done and approved by carriers, they could've asked to release it themselves and might have been the reason for the delay
    LuvULongTime likes this.
    01-19-15 07:38 PM
  15. filanto's Avatar
    Maybe we need been the testers. Lots of regular leaks and improved functionality. Why not have people be free r&d

    Posted via CB10
    01-19-15 07:58 PM
  16. Raestloz's Avatar
    Most probably they've been having carriers test the OS since last year and once all carriers are on board they'll release it globally, thus giving the impression of direct push (because everybody gets it at BlackBerry's GO!)

    Z10 STL100-1/10.2.1.3442
    01-19-15 07:59 PM
  17. GP540's Avatar
    Could explain also the rapid development of the 3.1 branch also


    Some points we were seeing multiple builds a day.

    Carrier a: everything's great
    carrier b: this doesn't work
    BlackBerry : okay fixed here's a new os carrier a and b (a : no changes b: we updated this for your network support)



    In Squircle I Trust
    01-19-15 08:28 PM
  18. D3C0D3R's Avatar
    Could explain also the rapid development of the 3.1 branch also

    Some points we were seeing multiple builds a day.

    Carrier a: everything's great
    carrier b: this doesn't work
    BlackBerry : okay fixed here's a new os carrier a and b (a : no changes b: we updated this for your network support)


    In Squircle I Trust
    Could be I suppose, sounds reasonable

    Praise be unto our Lord Squircle | Passport SQW100-1/10.3.1.1154
    01-19-15 09:03 PM
  19. jonty12's Avatar
    If they release to Verizon users they're going to get themselves in some hot water... Visual Voicemail hasn't worked on any 10.3.1 build, including 2072. There's a semi complicated fix for it that no everyday user is going to do.

    Verizon customer service reps will quickly find out how many BB10 users they really have.

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    01-19-15 10:07 PM
  20. rthonpm's Avatar
    If they release to Verizon users they're going to get themselves in some hot water... Visual Voicemail hasn't worked on any 10.3.1 build, including 2072. There's a semi complicated fix for it that no everyday user is going to do.

    Verizon customer service reps will quickly find out how many BB10 users they really have.

    Posted via CB10
    Granted I've never used Visual Voicemail despite being a Verizon customer for years, but if I'm not mistaken none of the 10.3.1 versions that have floated up have had Verizon specific radio stacks or overall build software. I would think that something like this would need actual files from the carrier to completely work.

    Posted via CB10
    01-20-15 05:59 AM
  21. chalx's Avatar
    Good to know, I've disabled automatic software updates on my Z10. 10.3.1.2072 still isn't good for STL100-1.
    01-20-15 06:32 AM
  22. kbz1960's Avatar
    Believe it when I see it.
    Ursus Rufus likes this.
    01-20-15 06:45 AM
  23. anon1727506's Avatar
    If they release to Verizon users they're going to get themselves in some hot water... Visual Voicemail hasn't worked on any 10.3.1 build, including 2072. There's a semi complicated fix for it that no everyday user is going to do.

    Verizon customer service reps will quickly find out how many BB10 users they really have.

    Posted via CB10
    That is the real issue, if BlackBerry were to send updates out directly like Apple does.... they would also have to provide the additional tech support.

    While it sound nice to push out global updates, BlackBerry is not in a position to take on the extra load of having to be the first line of support for all BlackBerry users.

    But too be honest... with the whole move to enterprise, it might not matter. Send the updates to the BES Administrators, they test them and figure out the issues and work around, and then they push them out to users when THEY want to. But for BlackBerry's sake there shouldn't be any issues, or those BES Administrators might find a platform that is less work to deal with.
    01-20-15 07:19 AM
  24. Asvertus's Avatar
    I wouldn't push 10.3.1.2072 if I was to give a go on the OTA updates.

    /2cents

    Posted via CB10
    Why?
    For me 10.3.1.2072 runs fantastic, no problem, no glitch, wifi without disconnects, stable radio, long battery live, android apps run/install fast. Camera reacts better than 1154.
    For me the best release.

    Posted via my BlackBerry Z30 (10.3.1.2072)
    01-20-15 07:35 AM
  25. anon1727506's Avatar
    Why?
    For me 10.3.1.2072 runs fantastic, no problem, no glitch, wifi without disconnects, stable radio, long battery live, android apps run/install fast. Camera reacts better than 1154.
    For me the best release.

    Posted via my BlackBerry Z30 (10.3.1.2072)
    Did you do a restore or just a clean install? A number of people had issues doing restores with 2072... which would be the same for OTA upgrades... times several thousand users.
    01-20-15 07:45 AM
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