Nope (well I think anyway, I'll have to fire up my Nexus), the one chrome is using is only fully supported by three main stream browsers and partially in the old AOSP browser
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Nope (well I think anyway, I'll have to fire up my Nexus), the one chrome is using is only fully supported by three main stream browsers and partially in the old AOSP browser
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The WRC link above was from this story. Facebook, eBay, Vice News And Others First To Support Chrome�s New Push Notifications. What you linked has screenshots from a WRC standard of 2013? It wouldn't seem that Chrome would take that long to implement something that old from WRC
Mine was the older API, there are two of them these days; the Push Notifications API which is reasonably new and the old One which BB10 supports.
I guess Facebook could use the old API if they wanted to, I don't see it been hard.
It wouldn't work with the browser closed though
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It seems pretty simple to me... FB makes revenue via advertising. BlackBerry HUB and FB by BlackBerry both blocked advertising.
FB gets upset and demands access to the right to advertise to their users and BlackBerry says FU.
Is there any truth to this?
I know for certain that both Apple and Android phones allow advertising via their FB apps.
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The second step after accumulating users is finding ways to monetize them. FB is doing it very well with Instagram, Snapchat and Whatsapp finding similar paths. Its probably a combination of many factors: BB commitment to FB app development, advertising opportunity, control of app environment etc.
This sounds like it could be on the right track track..
But whether the above is correct or not, Facebook is starting to alarm me more than even Google. The new Reaction system is downright creepy... Algorithms to profile everyone down to their emotional makeup. Even if BlackBerry were twenty times as popular FB there might still be a problem.
I still have a facebook account but I am slowly disengaging from the entire ecosystem, including WhatsApp, Instagram, etc.
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And that might be the feeling of many "typical" BlackBerry users... there are plenty of post here saying "I don't even use FaceBook".
So between the corporate devices that are locked down, and the anti-social/security conscious makeup of the BlackBerry user base..... FaceBook knows that they aren't a customer base worth supporting. It is only 15 - 20 million users and dropping pretty quickly, by the end of the year I'd expect there only to be about 5 Million BB10 users, and maybe about that many BBOS users.
The big issue is really for those BBOS users... I remember just how good the BBOS Browser was. Having to access FaceBook using the browser will not be a pleasant experience for them.
C'mon dude, that's ridiculous. We all know for absolute fact that it was Chen himself who killed the Facebook app, and for no other reason than to finally kill off BB10.
Seriously though, if a picture of the typical BB10 user could be drawn from CrackBerry, why would Facebook bother? As for advertisements, the BB10 FB app still shown those ads that appeared inside the feed.
Absolutely, correct.
The scary thing.... will BlackBerry even bother to continue to develop for BB10. As the crossplatform userbase increase, and as BlackBerry tries to make BBM more useful (and profitable)... will BB10 be dropped?
Fewer staffing and resources, then it's the most logical outcome. The moment you see them launch a new app but doesn't come for BB10, then you know for sure.
RedBerry Passport /10.3.2.2876 / Telus
I don't see how they could do that with BB10 being the only platform supporting video calls. But if BlackBerry were to add x-platform features AND drop video calling for BB10, that would be nothing short of pure evil...
My sense is that even BlackBerry wouldn't stoop that low. Even if and when BB10 is entirely EOL'd, they should give reasonable notice to their customers.
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I'm sure they'll give customers the same amount of warning and app updates that the PlayBook owners got.
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We fought back to work with WhatsApp and Facebook to change their minds, but at this time, their decision stands
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http://blogs.blackberry.com/2016/03/...per-community/
Chen announced a Twitter update today:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnChen/...inkId=22395851
FWIW (probably not much...)
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PS
Chen just announced " I care about BB10"
https://twitter.com/JohnChen/status/...inkId=22395853
Again, FWIW
[I don't use twitter; the BlackBerry Channel carried the link.]
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I wouldn't be surprised if BlackBerry refused to participate in some excessively invasive data collection or some other nonsense and therefore got left out in the cold. They've said many times they will not do any backdoor etc. So... who knows.
As for why Crackberry isn't covering this... maybe because it doesn't involve the Priv? LOL
PrivBerry.com? LoL
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BlackBerry never had a problem before with Facebook excessive data mining.
Don't see why they would now
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Could you elaborate? Any possibility that FB's invasive data- mining crossed a red threshold for BB?
It would be useful to know the exact reason FB is withholding its precious api, and it's not merely Blackberry's small market share...
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I can recall on bbos that the Facebook app dipped into your contacts and sent them invites to join Facebook.
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It seems you are looking for something complicated or mysterious when the answer is extremely simple. FB wants to control the user experience. They want people using FB's apps and no one else's.
It really is that straightforward.
Don't use Facebook? That's me! I was an "early-adapter" of being creeped out by FB -- and you are SO right about the people using BBOS: The browser options are just not practical in BBOS-land. I use a Bold 9900 sometimes when I need nothing more than to be available by phone or BBM, and everything takes forever to load on the native and Opera browsers.
Passport SE: All the snooty prestige of a device with a precious metal in the name at less than half the price!
>APPLAUSE!!<
A long time ago, I was mulling over the pre-IPO valuations of the company. I thought, "Well, if it's free, how do they make money?"
Passport SE: All the snooty prestige of a device with a precious metal in the name at less than half the price!
I wouldn't be surprised if FaceBook starts cracking down on those 3rd Party Apps like SnapChat did. In the long run that would be best for end users as those 3rd party apps are "potential" security risks for users.
This is all about monetization. BlackBerry Facebook app is used by a far less proportion than IOS and Android. FB makes money from advertising and a BlackBerry developed FB app for bb10 does not serve ads. The same reason they don't want to invest in a FB developed BB10 FB app. They don't see it as a positive ROI and are more interested in bottom line
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*Potential* security risks to an *actual* security/privacy risk (FB)...
Even more reason to disengage from the entire FB Matrix <cough>, er, ecosystem.
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Not looking for anything "complicated or mysterious," lol. In fact I'm pretty sure that you're right. It's more about control (and less about market share.)
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