- Ok..maybe I am missing something but I see a big problem with the peek function. If I am in the HUB and choose to look at a message/BBM/Text and then leave (without going back into the HUB) and access another application (say web browser), if the LED flashes that I have a message and I go to "peek" I will see the message/BBM/text that I was previously looking at (not the HUB). I need to then go into that message (leaving the web browser or whatever), swipe it away to see the HUB...and negating the whole point of the peek. The OS should be intelligent enough to know that when a new message is received, the peek should always show the HUB. If I am wrong on this please tell me but if peek is the BB 10 bread and butter, it really needs work.02-06-13 02:13 PMLike 0
- But it takes you to what you were doing last, that in itself is a good feature I would think. OS 7does the same thing so it really isn't that suprising that this happens...start reading or writting an email on OS7 then switch apps to go to the browser (not using the back button but holding the menu button) exit the browser then go back to messages and there waiting is whatever you were doing before you left. I don't see this as a flaw, I see it as an aspect of previous BB OS's that has been brought to BB10.02-06-13 02:24 PMLike 0
- I can see what you mean to an extent but look at it in this scenario..... What if I'm in a BBM conv and wanted to go find content to relay to the person. So I'd go to an app, find what I wanted, then an easy swipe right back to the converstation. I'd rather not swipe back tot he hub, to reopen the conversation I was in.
There's no real winner here as it could be argued either way but I guess they assume that when you're done, you'll close it.rjkolo likes this.02-06-13 02:25 PMLike 1 - But it takes you to what you were doing last, that in itself is a good feature I would think. OS 7does the same thing so it really isn't that suprising that this happens...start reading or writting an email on OS7 then switch apps to go to the browser (not using the back button but holding the menu button) exit the browser then go back to messages and there waiting is whatever you were doing before you left. I don't see this as a flaw, I see it as an aspect of previous BB OS's that has been brought to BB10.02-06-13 02:43 PMLike 0
- I can see what you mean to an extent but look at it in this scenario..... What if I'm in a BBM conv and wanted to go find content to relay to the person. So I'd go to an app, find what I wanted, then an easy swipe right back to the converstation. I'd rather not swipe back tot he hub, to reopen the conversation I was in.
There's no real winner here as it could be argued either way but I guess they assume that when you're done, you'll close it.02-06-13 02:44 PMLike 2 - But I can get 10 emails, texts, bbms, fb notifications within a minute sometimes. If I'm having a conversation with someone, and need to go get info from somewhere else a few times, I don't want my current conversation being trumped for incoming. That would, all of a sudden, negate the benefits of multitasking, if I constantly have to "re enter" my work and disrupt my workflow.02-06-13 02:50 PMLike 0
- But I can get 10 emails, texts, bbms, fb notifications within a minute sometimes. If I'm having a conversation with someone, and need to go get info from somewhere else a few times, I don't want my current conversation being trumped for incoming. That would, all of a sudden, negate the benefits of multitasking, if I constantly have to "re enter" my work and disrupt my workflow.
In my opinion, it should definitely show new alerts. They could even let it go back to what you were doing if you actually go to the home screen and swipe to it. Realistically, even if you were having a conversation, you would need to go into the hub to reply...so allowing peek to be a quick view of new notifications is important.
Either way, it's not a huge issue since you can just scroll back to the top when you're done using the hub. A little bit inconvenient at best...02-06-13 03:02 PMLike 0 - Having separate apps to launch for messaging and to hold in active frames makes the hub almost redundant. If I get a text, want to go copy and paste something from, lets say twitter, get a new emai, I can half swipe up to see what sort of message I got, but I'd also like to copy, and simply swipe back to my current message to complete what I was doing, not swipe back to the hub, to reopen that text to finish what I was doing. I'm not going to have multiple active frames open simply for messaging. That just makes the hub redundant.02-06-13 03:17 PMLike 0
- But I can get 10 emails, texts, bbms, fb notifications within a minute sometimes. If I'm having a conversation with someone, and need to go get info from somewhere else a few times, I don't want my current conversation being trumped for incoming. That would, all of a sudden, negate the benefits of multitasking, if I constantly have to "re enter" my work and disrupt my workflow.02-06-13 03:23 PMLike 0
- You missed my point... I don't want the message I am actively in closed because of a new incoming message, while while I'm gathering info from somewhere else. While I'm in the message itself, I can still peek at what's new. By closing it, it would be saving a draft and bumping it, for something that may, or may not, be of any interest me.02-06-13 03:43 PMLike 0
- You go back to what you are still doing in the hub. That's fair enough. If you had finished the action in the hub you should have have swiped it away. Tidy up your socks while you're at it! Seriously though I can see the sense in both arguments. As it is just remember to swipe away what you have finished doing in the hub.cjcampbell likes this.02-06-13 03:52 PMLike 1
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- Ok..maybe I am missing something but I see a big problem with the peek function. If I am in the HUB and choose to look at a message/BBM/Text and then leave (without going back into the HUB) and access another application (say web browser), if the LED flashes that I have a message and I go to "peek" I will see the message/BBM/text that I was previously looking at (not the HUB). I need to then go into that message (leaving the web browser or whatever), swipe it away to see the HUB...and negating the whole point of the peek. The OS should be intelligent enough to know that when a new message is received, the peek should always show the HUB. If I am wrong on this please tell me but if peek is the BB 10 bread and butter, it really needs work.02-06-13 04:07 PMLike 0
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- Ok..maybe I am missing something but I see a big problem with the peek function. If I am in the HUB and choose to look at a message/BBM/Text and then leave (without going back into the HUB) and access another application (say web browser), if the LED flashes that I have a message and I go to "peek" I will see the message/BBM/text that I was previously looking at (not the HUB). I need to then go into that message (leaving the web browser or whatever), swipe it away to see the HUB...and negating the whole point of the peek. The OS should be intelligent enough to know that when a new message is received, the peek should always show the HUB. If I am wrong on this please tell me but if peek is the BB 10 bread and butter, it really needs work.
1: having to go into the hub automatically and then click on a conversation to enter it EVERYTIME
2: having to press the back/hub button once in a while because it doesnt take you to the main page
for example... right now i dont have many people on BBM bc i had an iphone. so if im chatting w my gf in bbm I leave that convo and when she msgs me back i go into the hub AND STRAIGHT into the convo. If i have the feeling that we wont be messaging for a while send my last message and then go back into the main hub page. I think it saves MUCH more time like this because I am using so many less motions to enter the convo with her, and if something comes up while doing that i just have two extra motions. So two extra motions once in a while is better than one motion ever time i try to check a message.02-06-13 07:11 PMLike 0 - It's obvious that some like the Hub the way it is and others would like to see it default to the entire message list and not the previously viewed message everytime you exit the Hub. BlackBerry can overcome this in one of 2 ways.
Either make it an option to have the Hub functionality stay as is or default back to the entire message list every time you exit the Hub. Or BlackBerry can have the Hub default back to the entire message list after a certain amount of time out of the Hub. The length of time can be determine by the user from a list of options (i.e. 2, 5, 10 min, etc)
BlackBerry has always been great and allowing personalization of your device so it wouldn't surprise me if option 2 was already in the works and coming with the first software update availableraremage likes this.02-06-13 07:33 PMLike 1 - a lot of people see this as a problem... but i think it is really good. If you are in a bbm or text convo that is going back and forth it saves you the hassle. If you are checking email or reading a message that doesnt require a response/convo then YOU can turn back to the main page of the hub, but what is worse:
1: having to go into the hub automatically and then click on a conversation to enter it EVERYTIME
2: having to press the back/hub button once in a while because it doesnt take you to the main page
for example... right now i dont have many people on BBM bc i had an iphone. so if im chatting w my gf in bbm I leave that convo and when she msgs me back i go into the hub AND STRAIGHT into the convo. If i have the feeling that we wont be messaging for a while send my last message and then go back into the main hub page. I think it saves MUCH more time like this because I am using so many less motions to enter the convo with her, and if something comes up while doing that i just have two extra motions. So two extra motions once in a while is better than one motion ever time i try to check a message.cjcampbell likes this.02-06-13 08:00 PMLike 1 - My solution would be to have the hub always open where you left off when you swipe to it, and when the screen gets turned off, it will go back to the home screen. That way, if you're still mid-conversation with someone and you're trying to copy and paste something for that person from the browser (just as an example), you could go straight back to the conversation you were just in.raremage likes this.02-06-13 08:15 PMLike 1
- My solution would be to have the hub always open where you left off when you swipe to it, and when the screen gets turned off, it will go back to the home screen. That way, if you're still mid-conversation with someone and you're trying to copy and paste something for that person from the browser (just as an example), you could go straight back to the conversation you were just in.02-06-13 08:44 PMLike 0
- I agree with the OP, ive been frustrated by this maybe 6 times in 2 days of owning a Z10. More times then not your new notification isnt what you were last useing. So your adding steps rather then saving them. Id be willing to even count the potential extra steps you have to take. its that noticable.
My solution would be to have the hub always open where you left off when you swipe to it, and when the screen gets turned off, it will go back to the home screen. That way, if you're still mid-conversation with someone and you're trying to copy and paste something for that person from the browser (just as an example), you could go straight back to the conversation you were just in.02-06-13 08:49 PMLike 0 -
How many people on a regular pc just leave an e-mail or message open when they are done?02-06-13 09:10 PMLike 0 - Yeah Im also in the camp that would prefer it the way it is. But it is clear that people would like the choice to change it. It would definitely be very frustrating to a lot of people if every time you left the hub and went back in it automatically went out of that last message.02-06-13 09:16 PMLike 0
- I know its been said right here in this thread a lot already but its already been covered... A lot... It was even a first page on the crackberry blog. So please people... Read more before you post. You aren't the only one...02-07-13 12:23 AMLike 0
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