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  1. anon(679606)'s Avatar
    Auto update is off as if not my 2813 ART would be replaced... Passport OG so what does this have to do with my carrier?

    If you have auto updates turned on, the first small 'nag' you would see is for replacing the runtime files only. If an official update from your carrier gets released, the auto update nag will be much larger for the full OS update to the next version. The auto update will always only push the latest carrier supported files.

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    01-30-16 11:16 PM
  2. Ursus Rufus's Avatar
    If you have auto updates turned on, the first small 'nag' you would see is for replacing the runtime files only. If an official update from your carrier gets released, the auto update nag will be much larger for the full OS update to the next version. The auto update will always only push the latest carrier supported files.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    Uh. Hmm. Seems to me Patapoof is correct. If auto update is on, no 'nag' at all. Just the runtime files being replaced, and you're back to square one.

    With auto update turned off here's what the nag says if you open it
    OS 10.3.2.2876 Android Runtime analysis-img_20160131_073214.png

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    01-31-16 06:46 AM
  3. jzajac's Avatar
    Auto update is off as if not my 2813 ART would be replaced... Passport OG so what does this have to do with my carrier?
    Auto update will always try to update the 2813 runtime to match the OS you are running, unless your carrier has released a higher version of the OS than you are currently running. In that case, the OTA update would be for the new OS. If you had the auto update turned off before you side loaded the 2813 files you probably shouldn't be seeing the auto update notice. If it was still on and you turned it off after side loading and restarting, you're going to be stuck with that notice until you update or until the install a new OS, either released by your carrier or by your own doing.

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    01-31-16 07:51 AM
  4. jzajac's Avatar
    Uh. Hmm. Seems to me Patapoof is correct. If auto update is on, no 'nag' at all. Just the runtime files being replaced, and you're back to square one.

    With auto update turned off here's what the nag says if you open it
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    Did you have auto updates turned off before attempting to side load the old runtime?

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    01-31-16 07:52 AM
  5. anon(679606)'s Avatar
    Runtime off... shows 85mb nag... when a NEW update gets pushed by BlackBerry (device is OG)... will the NAG update to the latest offering with auto-update off?

    My guess is NO. BlackBerry never envisioned proffering a DEFECTIVE update OTA.

    Thence BlackBerry puts the onus on the customer to check on CB about this!

    Superiliousness abounds...

    Did you have auto updates turned off before attempting to side load the old runtime?

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    01-31-16 10:21 AM
  6. Ursus Rufus's Avatar
    Did you have auto updates turned off before attempting to side load the old runtime?

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    Aye did indeed. In fact have always kept auto switched off. Discretion is the better part of (update) valour.

    Posted via CB10
    Last edited by Ursus Rufus; 01-31-16 at 11:43 AM.
    01-31-16 11:31 AM
  7. Ursus Rufus's Avatar
    Runtime off... shows 85mb nag... when a NEW update gets pushed by BlackBerry (device is OG)... will the NAG update to the latest offering with auto-update off?

    My guess is NO. BlackBerry never envisioned proffering a DEFECTIVE update OTA.

    Thence BlackBerry puts the onus on the customer to check on CB about this!

    Superiliousness abounds...
    Not sure I get your question. If it's a real OS update, not just the Droid runtime nag, it will be bigger than 85 MB.

    Opening the notice would reveal the truth of it.

    When a true update of the OS does arrive, it will hopefully address the ART bug. And even then, best to wait a few days, even a week or more, & check CB before updating. We know this, don't we?

    Posted via CB10
    01-31-16 11:41 AM
  8. jzajac's Avatar
    Runtime off... shows 85mb nag... when a NEW update gets pushed by BlackBerry (device is OG)... will the NAG update to the latest offering with auto-update off?

    My guess is NO. BlackBerry never envisioned proffering a DEFECTIVE update OTA.

    Thence BlackBerry puts the onus on the customer to check on CB about this!

    Superiliousness abounds...
    If you have update off, then no, the window will not change. If your carrier pushes a new OS version higher than what you are using, turn auto update on and the new OS will override the current 85 mg download. If you don't have the device looking for new versions the nag will never change.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    01-31-16 12:10 PM
  9. jzajac's Avatar
    Aye did indeed. In fact have always kept auto switched off. Discretion is the better part of (update) valour.

    Posted via CB10
    Interesting. If auto updates are turned off on your device and were that way before you successfully downgraded the files then I'm not sure why you're still seeing the message.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    01-31-16 12:28 PM
  10. Ursus Rufus's Avatar
    Interesting. If auto updates are turned off on your device and were that way before you successfully downgraded the files then I'm not sure why you're still seeing the message.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    I honestly don't know. That's a question for better informed people to answer.

    My guess is, the carrier & the phone ping each other, and when the answer from the phone says, "There's a piece here that's old" (ie, the ART file is "out of date") the update notice is sent the same way it would if it was a full update. The proof would be in looking at the size (presumably greater than 85 MB if a real, full update!) the number (presumably not the same old 2876) and also, what the accompanying message says. My guess is it would say something more than "Applications update" (cf. above). Something more like "Software release" or the like.
    Last edited by Ursus Rufus; 01-31-16 at 01:25 PM.
    01-31-16 01:13 PM
  11. Ursus Rufus's Avatar
    If you have update off, then no, the window will not change. If your carrier pushes a new OS version higher than what you are using, turn auto update on and the new OS will override the current 85 mg download. If you don't have the device looking for new versions the nag will never change.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    In keeping with the above, again, I think the whole point of auto download is not that your device is "looking" (isn't it basically always "looking", as long as it's connected to WiFi or cellular signal?) for an update. It's that when it finds one, it is downloaded automatically. (That's what's horrible about having auto switched on, & why it's probably best never to do so.) As opposed to you just receiving a "nag." So if a new OS is released, it would automatically (whether a nag or a download) supersede the ART nag.
    01-31-16 01:23 PM
  12. jzajac's Avatar
    In keeping with the above, again, I think the whole point of auto download is not that your device is "looking" (isn't it basically always "looking", as long as it's connected to WiFi or cellular signal?) for an update. It's that when it finds one, it is downloaded automatically. (That's what's horrible about having auto switched on, & why it's probably best never to do so.) As opposed to you just receiving a "nag." So if a new OS is released, it would automatically (whether a nag or a download) supersede the ART nag.
    Certainly possible. Sadly this isn't one I'm willing to test, I'm avoiding this update like the plague. It may be that the best way to get rid of the nag is to get rid of the OS and downgrade to one that works.

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    01-31-16 01:43 PM
  13. Ursus Rufus's Avatar
    Perhaps...

    Not. Too. Sherrr.

    Am just ignoring the nag.
    Testing to see whether leaving the notification in the Hub (not deleting it) will keep it from re-appearing.

    Speaking of which, am guessing that downgrading to an older OS would just be trading an "Applications update" nag, for a "Software Release" one.
    01-31-16 05:42 PM
  14. jzajac's Avatar
    Perhaps...

    Not. Too. Sherrr.

    Am just ignoring the nag.
    Testing to see whether leaving the notification in the Hub (not deleting it) will keep it from re-appearing.

    Speaking of which, am guessing that downgrading to an older OS would just be trading an "Applications update" nag, for a "Software Release" one.
    That depends... did you choose to upgrade to this version by autoloader from a leak or was it released by your carrier?

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    01-31-16 06:12 PM
  15. Ursus Rufus's Avatar
    Carrier.

    And I remember hearing a little voice in my head, saying, "There's no reason to upgrade right away, your phone is working fine. Wait a while, check Crackberry; see how others are doing with it..."

    Ya. If only. But whatever. It's settled now. Hopefully I've learned my lesson. And hopefully the next release will be better.
    01-31-16 07:28 PM
  16. jzajac's Avatar
    Carrier.

    And I remember hearing a little voice in my head, saying, "There's no reason to upgrade right away, your phone is working fine. Wait a while, check Crackberry; see how others are doing with it..."

    Ya. If only. But whatever. It's settled now. Hopefully I've learned my lesson. And hopefully the next release will be better.
    My guess is that you're stuck with the nag in that case.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    01-31-16 07:47 PM
  17. Grapesoda4899's Avatar
    Hay brother loaded allows 3 files got google play up and running but I'm getting play services not installed. Help! How to get around this on passport.
    01-31-16 11:18 PM
  18. Doggerz's Avatar
    For me the nagging stopped after 48 hours. The upgrade is still there if I press check for upgrade but it no longer is putting notices in my hub.

    I noticed that for me I had to let the update start to download by going to "finish setup" (because I skipped setup on install by keeping my sim card out and keeping my wifi off).

    Once I hit "cancel update" as it was downloading and toggled automatic updates to off is when it quieted down for me.

    Don't give up, I'm living proof that you can live happily with 2813.

    Z30STA100-5 / 10.3.2.2813 / T-Mobile
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    01-31-16 11:55 PM
  19. aeroshooter's Avatar
    Guys the fix by conite seems to have done the trick...dont know how i would have lived with the BB Classic if not for you guys. Love the PKB but need the android apps for my work. Thanks a lot!
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    02-01-16 01:02 AM
  20. Ursus Rufus's Avatar
    For me the nagging stopped after 48 hours. The upgrade is still there if I press check for upgrade but it no longer is putting notices in my hub.

    I noticed that for me I had to let the update start to download by going to "finish setup" (because I skipped setup on install by keeping my sim card out and keeping my wifi off).

    Once I hit "cancel update" as it was downloading and toggled automatic updates to off is when it quieted down for me.

    Don't give up, I'm living proof that you can live happily with 2813.

    Z30STA100-5 / 10.3.2.2813 / T-Mobile
    Haven't done anything really and the notifications have stopped. When I think about it, there were only two or three anyway. Well worth it considering the value of the fix.

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    02-01-16 08:53 AM
  21. guygardner73's Avatar
    Can I uninstall android apps with the chrome extension?

    PassportSQW100-1/10.3.2.2639 O2 UK
    02-01-16 10:54 AM
  22. albertinik's Avatar
    That is a wise concept to state what you just did on previous quotes.

    1 only android app that doesn't get
    unistalled / installed.

    Enough to test your real smart

    All of this, In the android runtime analysis thread .

    If you have a lot dysfunctional android apps, then you have a problem. I don't, cause I only use one from Amazon and it's functioning well. I dont have to uninstall one that is working properly.

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    Posted from my Blackbeast
    Last edited by albertinik; 02-01-16 at 08:17 PM.
    02-01-16 08:06 PM
  23. albertinik's Avatar
    Reload OS

    Posted from my Blackbeast
    02-01-16 08:09 PM
  24. albertinik's Avatar
    Wipe

    Reload OS

    Hello installed 10.3.2.2836 on my Z10 and noticed in app manager, option allow to install 3rd party apps is blocked my administrator? This is personal phone from day one! Holding out in installing. 2836 in Passport SE as not sure with bugs in this OS!
    Attachment 389415

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    Posted from my Blackbeast
    02-01-16 08:11 PM
  25. danp2000's Avatar
    I had the nag after I checked for software updates manually, I have auto update turned off.

    How I was able to fix it was to allow the update then downgrade the runtime again and stay away from the check for updates button.

    T-Mobile  вιaсĸвεггч Passport Autoloaded 10.3.1.2582: Sachesi to 10.3.1.2744 to 10.3.2.680 to 798 to 2204 to 2339 to 2639 to 2789 to 2813 to 2878-2814 Hybrid
    02-01-16 08:32 PM
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