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  1. diegonei's Avatar
    I just don't understand... How does this carrier thing work? Why BlackBerry doesn't release the updates like Apple does with iOS?
    They don't because nobody else does. Carriers have control of when updates roll out. Apple is the ONE exception to this rule. They have so much marketshare and power that they literraly can give carriers the finger and do what they want. BlackBerry (and WP/Android for that matter) can't.

    BlackBerry releases the OS on their servers for carrier testing. Carriers test (some do it right, some pretent do do it, some don't do it, some never do it) and release. How long it up to them and how important they consider it. The MR was rather important nd hit carriers world wide quite fast (even Brasil, we got it within the week or relelase).

    BB 10.2.1 is to be released Q1 2014. Let's see how that goes.
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    12-15-13 07:33 PM
  2. jugoes's Avatar
    I called Oi and they told me updates had absolutly nothing to do with carriers, that BlackBerry should release them. I know this isn't true, and by the way, thanks for your explanation... the sad thing is I'm starting to wonder if we'll ever get these updates. I think they just don't care about BlackBerry.
    12-16-13 10:29 AM
  3. effduca's Avatar
    I have a friend here at my work, with uses "Oi" and has a BBZ10... The upgrade to 10.2.437 worked fine for her.
    12-17-13 04:23 AM
  4. diegonei's Avatar
    I called Oi and they told me updates had absolutly nothing to do with carriers, that BlackBerry should release them. I know this isn't true, and by the way, thanks for your explanation... the sad thing is I'm starting to wonder if we'll ever get these updates. I think they just don't care about BlackBerry.
    Oh, tell me more about how carriers never lie to us...

    They will ALWAYS will cast blame on whatever other party is involved.
    Last edited by diegonei; 12-17-13 at 02:08 PM.
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    12-17-13 12:36 PM
  5. jugoes's Avatar
    I have a friend here at my work, with uses "Oi" and has a BBZ10... The upgrade to 10.2.437 worked fine for her.
    Really? Where did she buy her phone? Apparently, some people who bought it from other countries can update it. I've just checked mine and the latest OS avaible is 10.1...
    12-17-13 01:12 PM
  6. jugoes's Avatar
    I've just received a message saying 10.2 is avaible for download (btw, I cant upload pics when I'm on CrackBerry app. Does anyone know how to fix it?)

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    12-18-13 05:03 PM
  7. Tahan Alberto's Avatar
    I've just received a message saying 10.2 is avaible for download (btw, I cant upload pics when I'm on CrackBerry app. Does anyone know how to fix it?)

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    On BlackBerry Link or OTA? What kind of message do you see when click on "Attach Picture"? And by way, what's your carrier?

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    12-18-13 05:44 PM
  8. diegonei's Avatar
    More importantly, what was the size of the update and what OS you have running there.
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    12-18-13 05:50 PM
  9. jugoes's Avatar
    On BlackBerry Link or OTA? What kind of message do you see when click on "Attach Picture"? And by way, what's your carrier?

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    OTA, but I'm downloading it through BlackBerry Link. My carrier is Oi. And there's no message... I just tap attach, select my pic but it doesn't work =/
    12-18-13 06:13 PM
  10. jugoes's Avatar
    More importantly, what was the size of the update and what OS you have running there.
    It's about 430 MB... I'm downloading it now, I'll tell you precisely when it ends.
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    12-18-13 06:14 PM
  11. diegonei's Avatar
    It's about 430 MB... I'm downloading it now, I'll tell you precisely when it ends.
    So OI is going 10.2, or BlackBerry is pushing it to carriers that said "do whaterver the porra you want."

    Either or. I'm curious and checking Sachesi...

    EDIT: Update 10.2.0.429 available! OS: 10.2.0.1803 + Radio: 10.2.0.1804

    Sachesi settings: Country 724 Carrier 31 (16 also works)

    Not bad!

    EDIT: Funniest thing... No settings for VIVO will show ANY OS versions, while Claro and TIM are still on 10.1. Guess VIVO wasn't kidding about pushing WP8.
    12-18-13 06:17 PM
  12. jugoes's Avatar
    So OI is going 10.2, or BlackBerry is pushing it to carriers that said "do whaterver the porra you want."

    Either or. I'm curious and checking Sachesi...

    EDIT: Update 10.2.0.429 available! OS: 10.2.0.1803 + Radio: 10.2.0.1804

    Sachesi settings: Country 724 Carrier 31 (16 also works)

    Not bad!

    EDIT: Funniest thing... No settings for VIVO will show ANY OS versions, while Claro and TIM are still on 10.1. Guess VIVO wasn't kidding about pushing WP8.
    the size was 499 MB. And the rest you know =p
    Last edited by jugoes; 12-18-13 at 08:31 PM.
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    12-18-13 06:44 PM
  13. Tahan Alberto's Avatar
    10.2.what?

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    12-18-13 06:48 PM
  14. jugoes's Avatar
    10.2.what?

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    10.2.0.429/10.2.0.1803
    12-18-13 06:54 PM
  15. diegonei's Avatar
    10.2.what?

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    Missed my post (#86)? Acorda pra cuspir.
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    12-18-13 06:54 PM
  16. Tahan Alberto's Avatar
    Hahaha sorry bro... and Ju! #porra0meia

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    12-18-13 07:11 PM
  17. Tahan Alberto's Avatar
    WOW!!!!! Just checked right now and...
    OS 10.2 in Brazil?-img_00000948.png

    By the way, I'm on VIVO. Guess you are right Diego! Hehehehe

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    12-18-13 07:27 PM
  18. diegonei's Avatar
    26MB. I am betting you are already running 10.2.0.1803 and forgot about it. I am getting no updates available here, also on VIVO.
    12-18-13 07:37 PM
  19. Tahan Alberto's Avatar
    No bro, I was on 1791 before... and I checked my dad's Z10 a few minutes ago and the update shows up for him too. About 400mb e uns quebrados. He was on 10.1. And on VIVO too.

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    12-18-13 07:50 PM
  20. diegonei's Avatar
    No bro, I was on 1791 before... and I checked my dad's Z10 a few minutes ago and the update shows up for him too. About 400mb e uns quebrados. He was on 10.1. And on VIVO too.

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    Don't you find it strange your OS update is so small?
    12-18-13 08:22 PM
  21. Tahan Alberto's Avatar
    Don't you find it strange your OS update is so small?
    I'm don't think so... I mean, I was on 1791. What BIG changes from 1791 to 1803?

    Also, I've seen a few members report that their updates wasn't that big too, considering that transition from 1791 to 1803.

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    12-18-13 08:28 PM
  22. diegonei's Avatar
    I'm don't think so... I mean, I was on 1791. What BIG changes from 1791 to 1803?

    Also, I've seen a few members report that their updates wasn't that big too, considering that transition from 1791 to 1803.

    Posted via CB10
    You don't get OS updates it seems. The OS file is usually around 300mb itself. The radio file is somewhere near 20mb. I am betting you forgot you updated to .1803 .

    While the possibility of incremental updates (where only changes get pushed) exist, BlackBerry didn't get the green signal to start doing that, so all updates (real OS updates that is) push the whole thing down.

    Therefore, small "updates" like that are usually carrier bloatware+stuff you deleted from the device. Some rare times, it is something the OS noticed that was not ok and re-downloaded.

    Only thing I can think of is you got the radio only.... (26MB is around the size of a radio file).
    12-18-13 11:25 PM
  23. Tahan Alberto's Avatar
    So Diego, any news on your phone?

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    12-19-13 09:50 AM
  24. diegonei's Avatar
    So Diego, any news on your phone?

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    Only that I updated using Sachesi. .1803 isn't news though. I kinda forgot about it when I rolled back from 10.2.1 lol...
    12-19-13 11:37 AM
  25. jugoes's Avatar
    New leak out. Who's downloading it? Hahahaha
    12-20-13 04:38 PM
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