1. DOCTOREVIL8's Avatar
    I just bought a refurb BlackBerry Z30. It came loaded with OS 10.3.1, so I immediately downgraded to OS 10.2.1 so I could try out the apps that were dependent on Adobe AIR.

    I grabbed the autoloader from here... BlackBerry 10 Autoloaders - BlackBerry Developer

    The problem is the autoloader wasn't complete. I don't have pictures, videos, file manager icons. I'm sure many others missing. I tried grabbing an autoloader from Crackberry for Z30, but it's no longer a live link.

    I love using Darcy's Tools, but all the Canadian carriers are only carrying OS 10.3.2. I can't find anything for OS 10.2.1.

    Any help to get a full OS 10.2.1 would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    12-29-16 02:15 PM
  2. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    That is a Developer's site and only has Developer versions of the OS... that are not complete.

    You can find a repository of full versions here http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-le...rchive-943672/

    I'm not sure what version... but somewhere the started blocking downgrading, if you install a current 10.3.2 you'll never get back to 10.2
    12-29-16 03:25 PM
  3. DOCTOREVIL8's Avatar
    Thank you very much. That's a beauty site. OS 10.3.2 is the version which prevents OS downgrades. That's why I got excited when the device came with 10.3.1.

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    12-29-16 03:37 PM
  4. DOCTOREVIL8's Avatar
    Now the next magic question....

    I tried the Google Play Store on this OS and not quite working. I expected this as Cobalt says 10.2.1 is not supported.

    Now the question..... could I sideload a new Android Version from OS 10.3.2 and hope there's a chance of success? Is it strictly the Android side that could be the issue or something deeper in the OS?

    If I choose to do this, what files do I need for Android runtime?

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    12-30-16 04:01 PM
  5. thurask's Avatar
    Now the next magic question....

    I tried the Google Play Store on this OS and not quite working. I expected this as Cobalt says 10.2.1 is not supported.

    Now the question..... could I sideload a new Android Version from OS 10.3.2 and hope there's a chance of success? Is it strictly the Android side that could be the issue or something deeper in the OS?

    If I choose to do this, what files do I need for Android runtime?

    Posted via CB10
    It won't work, I've seen it tried without success.

    Play Store or 10.2.1.
    12-30-16 04:02 PM
  6. conite's Avatar

    Now the question..... could I sideload a new Android Version from OS 10.3.2 and hope there's a chance of success? Is it strictly the Android side that could be the issue or something deeper in the OS?


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    It won't work.

    There is no conceivable reason to not be on 10.3.2 or above. The number of air apps that are worth having are exactly 0.
    12-30-16 04:03 PM
  7. Vistaus's Avatar
    It won't work.

    There is no conceivable reason to not be on 10.3.2 or above. The number of air apps that are worth having are exactly 0.
    Yeah, it's more about the theme. IMHO 10.3.x rocks but I like the looks of 10.2.x better. I wish there was a way to get that look back on 10.3.3

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    Last edited by Vistaus; 12-30-16 at 05:12 PM.
    12-30-16 04:49 PM
  8. DOCTOREVIL8's Avatar
    It won't work.

    There is no conceivable reason to not be on 10.3.2 or above. The number of air apps that are worth having are exactly 0.
    Not entirely true. Cover Grabber I like to get my album covers. Splashtop is also a good one. I can't seem to get the Android Splashtop to connect to my Mac anymore. The BlackBerry Adobe Air version of Splashtop still connects.

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    12-30-16 05:14 PM
  9. DOCTOREVIL8's Avatar
    But that being said, if the Play Store outweighs the couple of Adobe Air apps, then I may have no choice but to upgrade.

    Anyone seen battery life tests between 10.2.1 and 10.3.2? Similar enough to not worry?

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    12-30-16 05:15 PM
  10. ZeBB45's Avatar
    Yeah, it's more about the theme. IMHO 10.3.x rocks but I like the looks of 10.2.x better. I wish there was a way to get that look back on 10.3.3

    Posted via CB10 using my amazing  Passport (OG Red)
    I think that it's just yourself and I that share this opinion.

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    12-30-16 06:21 PM
  11. ZeBB45's Avatar
    Thank you very much. That's a beauty site. OS 10.3.2 is the version which prevents OS downgrades. That's why I got excited when the device came with 10.3.1.

    Posted via CB10
    Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I'm pretty sure that if you were on 10.2.1 and connected to the Internet, you would constantly be receiving update notifications.

    Posted via CB10
    12-30-16 06:23 PM
  12. conite's Avatar
    Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I'm pretty sure that if you were on 10.2.1 and connected to the Internet, you would constantly be receiving update notifications.

    Posted via CB10
    Depends on the carrier. Some NA carriers make it "mandatory".

    DTEK60 / Z30
    12-30-16 06:52 PM
  13. DOCTOREVIL8's Avatar
    In my case, I can turn off the auto update...


    Need help for OS 10.2.1 on Z30-img_20161230_194340.png

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    12-30-16 07:44 PM
  14. brookie229's Avatar
    Not entirely true. Cover Grabber I like to get my album covers. Splashtop is also a good one. I can't seem to get the Android Splashtop to connect to my Mac anymore. The BlackBerry Adobe Air version of Splashtop still connects.

    Posted via CB10
    Have you tried the Splashtop app from Amazon Appstore? Works well on my Passport with my laptop and desktop win 7 and win10. Sorry have no idea about Mac.
    12-30-16 08:06 PM
  15. brookie229's Avatar
    In my case, I can turn off the auto update...


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    This will prevent an update but: if your carrier is pushing it won't prevent the nag screens.
    12-30-16 08:10 PM
  16. Vistaus's Avatar
    I think that it's just yourself and I that share this opinion.

    Posted via CB10
    Eh, I already made it clear that it's just myself by saying "IMHO".

    Posted via CB10 using my amazing  Passport (OG Red) <3
    12-31-16 12:52 AM

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