My view on BlackBerry 10 and its Maintenance mode...
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It is used in reference to software releases or product releases put not in reference to the overall product life cycle.
Google is your friend.03-07-16 12:28 PMLike 0 -
- In a different thread, someone can explain to me how Linux (a "monolithic" kernel) is at a practical (real) disadvantage compared to Mach or Neutrino in a phone. I think Dan Dodge has left BlackBerry by now, hasn't he? I would hope that would end the myth that an RTOS or a microkernel (either) have some advantage in a modern smartphone. Again, this is 2016 not 1995.
Monolithic kernel vs. Microkernel03-07-16 12:44 PMLike 0 -
If the BlackBerry 10 device sells would grow they would continue to invest in it.
So, you are sure BlackBerry 10 is dead. From this I can tell you are working in the speculations area, or aren't you?
Posted via CB1003-07-16 12:56 PMLike 0 - BB10 survives AND advances predicated on two things:
The Android experiment is deemed a failure and;
the board decides that the devices division is too important to close down, even if it is not profitable (I.e. BlackBerry enterprise software won't succeed in the market without the end-to-end coverage devices provide)
The BB10 web browser is really showing its age, and the WebKit engine on which it is based is being phased out. If the OS doesn't get additional and significant development, it will NOT continue to function as it does today, because the world to which BB10 connects and upon which it relies is moving forward while BB10 stands still... Eventually the world is so far ahead of BB10 that there is too much distance to hear and be heard.
So, no, BB10 without significant investment will NOT continue to work as it does today.
Blink is based on Webkit. Apple relies on Webkit (Safari)...
Where do you get these ideas from?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar...nes#cite_ref-2
Considering the Webkit part, this falls "....and the WebKit engine on which it is based is being phased out. So, no, BB10 without significant investment will NOT continue to work as it does today." If you will look at the presentation will see that a microkernel is more stable, secure and doesn't require the development resources a monolithic kernel (Linux-->Android) does.03-07-16 12:59 PMLike 0 - More companies are joining the Webkit base and it is being phased out? Could you come with a reference for this?
Blink is based on Webkit. Apple relies on Webkit (Safari)...
Where do you get these ideas from?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar...nes#cite_ref-2
Considering the Webkit part, this falls "....and the WebKit engine on which it is based is being phased out. So, no, BB10 without significant investment will NOT continue to work as it does today." If you will look at the presentation will see that a microkernel is more stable, secure and doesn't require the development resources a monolithic kernel (Linux-->Android) does.
These features allow updating more components of the system without rebooting it.
Lostboy5151 who is a self proclaimed expert advocates for daily reboots of BB10.
Many other BB10 "experts" suggest weekly reboots as sensible routine maintenance.
This feature is of dubious benefit when their are only two more OTA updates scheduled and they will be approximately 6-9 months apart.
You have no clue what you are talking about.
It did have a benefit as far as fips certification is concerned but that is all I can really see.03-07-16 01:09 PMLike 0 -
There are three principles of system design in high availability engineering:
Elimination of single points of failure. This means adding redundancy to the system so that failure of a component does not mean failure of the entire system. See Reliability Engineering.
Reliable crossover. In multithreaded systems, the crossover point itself tends to become a single point of failure. High availability engineering must provide for reliable crossover.
Detection of failures as they occur. If the two principles above are observed, then a user may never see a failure. But the maintenance activity must.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_availability
especially slides #14 and #16
Monolithic kernel vs. Microkernel03-07-16 01:19 PMLike 0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_complete
It is used in reference to software releases or product releases put not in reference to the overall product life cycle.
Google is your friend.
Usually a feature complete software still has to undergo beta testing
Beta testing comes after alpha testing and can be considered a form of external user acceptance testing. Versions of the software, known as beta versions, are released to a limited audience outside of the programming team known as beta testers. The software is released to groups of people so that further testing can ensure the product has few faults or bugs."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softwa...g#Beta_testing03-07-16 01:37 PMLike 0 - So what? MS bought Nokia in 2013, so whatever Nokia promised in 2011 doesn't mean squat. Microsoft didn't make those promises. If Apple buys Blackberry tomorrow and shuts it down immediately, are we somehow obligated to still get 10.3.3 because "Blackberry promised?"JeepBB likes this.03-07-16 02:10 PMLike 1
- Nope, it's not dead. It's still working perfectly. It will be dead because of the "BlackBerry 10 is dead" comments. Most of the people who think about buying a BlackBerry 10 device for the first time would search it on Google. There are many links to CrackBerry forums if you search for "BlackBerry 10 " and all they can see is your comments, so they won't buy it.
If the BlackBerry 10 device sells would grow they would continue to invest in it.
So, you are sure BlackBerry 10 is dead. From this I can tell you are working in the speculations area, or aren't you?
Posted via CB1003-07-16 02:13 PMLike 0 - It's a total wind up. OP is just having fun at our expense. Well done!
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03-07-16 03:03 PMLike 0 -
Now I use my BlackBerry Passport running the best OS called BlackBerry 10.
When I bought my Z10, over 2 years ago everybody told me not to buy it because a BlackBerry device is obsolete and I will get no support. They were wrong. I am glad I didn't listen to them.
If you changed the platform only because some people are saying that BlackBerry 10 is dead I feel sorry for you. I realy am.
I understand you didn't want to take a chance with a new device, and I don't blame anyone for that. But you should understand that "BlackBerry 10 is dead" are just some opinions. You should also undestand that anybody could take their own decisions by reading the same articles that you read without you telling them your opinion as a fact.
I will never write on Android Central forums "Android is dead since it started" because it is laggy or on IMore "IOS is dead" because it doesn't offer enough for my needs.
You should understand that every time you write "BlackBerry 10 " is dead on a forum, especially on CrackBerry forums, it has an impact on BlackBerry 10 future.
Again, I am still using BlackBerry 10 the same way I used it when I bought my first BlackBerry 10 device, evven better, it has more features now. So it is not dead. When something is dead it is not working anymore.
Maybe you are right, maybe there is no chance for BlackBerry 10 to survive.
Your opinion is not a fact, my opinion is not a fact, we cannot predict the future. Or maybe you have a Crystall Ball in your room....
Guess what, I heard rumors that Apple will be in a big hole in a couple of years, but I am not writing that on forums as being a fact.
About what is written on the wall, I would advise you to stop reading the commercials from those walls and choose what you makes you happy.
Also, when I read articles that says that BlackBerry officials said "If we can secure Android at the same level as BlackBerry 10 and bring the same experience on Android devices we don't have to continue with BlackBerry 10 " I can think for myself without other persons translating that for me in "BlackBerry 10 " is dead. In the same time "we will upgrade to Qt5 when it will be really necessary " it is not the same with " there will be no Qt5 ".
I am sorry I put some comments that are not related with your comment, but they are related with all the "BlackBerry 10 is dead" comments.
Every time I read something interesting on BlackBerry Forums, there ie at least one guy with a "BlackBerry 10 is dead".
Have fun and a great experience with any platform you choose. Cheers.
Posted via CB10sid89 likes this.03-07-16 03:07 PMLike 1 -
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Here's a hint: BlackBerry has 0.2% of the market. That's a rounding error. Nobody needs to pay Crackberry members to hurt the company's reputation. BlackBerry did that just fine without any outside help.
BlackBerry Classic non-camera, Cricket WirelessJeepBB and Sir Reaper like this.03-07-16 03:23 PMLike 2 -
Developing Software in Maintenance Mode | Jes�s Gil Hern�ndez03-07-16 03:27 PMLike 0 - You should understand that every time you write "BlackBerry 10 " is dead on a forum, especially on CrackBerry forums, it has an impact on BlackBerry 10 future.
Again, I am still using BlackBerry 10 the same way I used it when I bought my first BlackBerry 10 device, evven better, it has more features now. So it is not dead. When something is dead it is not working anymore.
The general consensus here is that an OS is "dead" if it is not being actively developed with new features, has an ecosystem that is not being actively supported and is becoming deprecated, and has a rapidly declining user base.
I would also add that comments on Crackberry have not contributed to the colossal collapse of BB10.03-07-16 03:31 PMLike 6 - 03-07-16 03:36 PMLike 0
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So where has there been an actual BB10 update where user space processes were dropped and restarted without rebooting the device?03-07-16 03:44 PMLike 0 - especially slides #14 and #16
Monolithic kernel vs. Microkernel03-07-16 03:47 PMLike 0 - That's what it means when a project is in "maintenance mode". It means no new features are being added. Your claim is that the reason BB10 is in this mode is because they have no new features to add. I'm saying BB10 is in this mode because they have given up.JeepBB likes this.03-07-16 03:52 PMLike 1
- In actual practice, BB10 updates have required reboots. In fact, there have been cases where the recommended approach is not just a reboot, but a complete security wipe of the system.
So where has there been an actual BB10 update where user space processes were dropped and restarted without rebooting the device?
You didn't find anything helpful in those slides ? Monolithic kernel vs. Microkernel03-07-16 03:54 PMLike 0
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