- 11-26-15 03:05 AMLike 1
- GPS + Advertising = Have your cake and eat it too.
This is not rocket science. Stop being a doormat, tell Google to F off and open up the Play store and GPS to BB10 NATIVELY, with no side loading bull**** so normal human beings can use it, LET THEM KNOW.
Build it and they will come. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
Posted via CB10BigAl_BB9900 and kbz1960 like this.11-26-15 06:29 AMLike 2 - How much did BB 10 get promoted? If a decision is made to launch a system that is not mature and has bugs and doesn't get a full scale onslaught of constant improvements and fixes, what chance does it have? I really enjoy the flow and the hub, etc. but half *** slow improvments were not going to cut it with the world. Instead, Chen goes for an android product to push? lol . No new bb10 successor to Z30? No more BB phones for me!!! I dislike android, so why do I want an android BB? Answer: I DON'T!!!!Asvertus likes this.11-26-15 10:50 AMLike 1
- History shows us that in business "building it" is not nearly enough. First there needs to be a market before you do anything. So if BB were to engineer GPS onto BB10 (which Google would not allow to stand), the total market would be a subset of the existing BlackBerry 10 users. Which is already a tiny market. The market for folks that just want apps and don't care at all about BlackBerry is huge by contrast. And the problem for BB is that that market is already fully and ably served. There is no room for them in it with BB10.
Hence you see the Priv which plays on unique hardware on a mass market OS. Which is still a niche.11-26-15 01:27 PMLike 0 - Simply put, Mr Chen sucks. This man has promoted the Android Priv like no other. I've seen Priv promos more than I have ever seen any BB10 devices. When BB10 dropped where was the marketing campaign? Now that they up Androids but-t crack, out of nowhere we got marketing going on? The Passport didn't even get promoted like this. I just wish Chen would say what the plans are for BB10. Is it done or are there plans for it? Let us know so we can move on. Stop dodging the questions like if this was a game of Dodge Ball. Smh.
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11-26-15 06:55 PMLike 0 - Simply put, Mr Chen sucks. This man has promoted the Android Priv like I other. I've seen Priv promos more than I have ever seen any BB10 devices. When BB10 dropped where was the marketing campaign? Now that they up Androids **** crack, out of nowhere we got marketing going on? The Passport didn't even get promoted like this. I just wish Chen would say what the plans are for BB10. Is it done or there are plans for it. Let us know so we can move on. Stop dodging the questions like if this was a game of Dodge Ball. Smh.
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Here's some food for thought. You've developed a new OS/phone. You've reached out to everyone in the smartphone app space. You've had multiple developer events. All you have to show for it going into your new product launch is:
- No major app/developer support
- Limited native app development
- Poor ports of Android apps which drag the phone's performance and battery down
What's your marketing strategy? Do you tell folks "Buy our platform even though it doesn't have the apps you want?" Or, what about "Our OS is great - forget about all that other stuff you do on your current phone?" Why not resurrect "Tools Not Toys?" You need an audience to market to. And don't give me that "tell people this is what they want and they'll blindly buy it" hoo-hah. It didn't work for BlackBerry post-iPhone and it wouldn't work now. Consumers aren't quite as stupid as many around here hope.
Or, do you save your money and hope to ride it out long enough to either 1) gain app/developer traction or 2) sell the company?11-26-15 11:43 PMLike 3 -
- Chen had nothing to do with the launch marketing of the Z10/BB10. That was all Heins.
Here's some food for thought. You've developed a new OS/phone. You've reached out to everyone in the smartphone app space. You've had multiple developer events. All you have to show for it going into your new product launch is:
- No major app/developer support
- Limited native app development
- Poor ports of Android apps which drag the phone's performance and battery down
What's your marketing strategy? Do you tell folks "Buy our platform even though it doesn't have the apps you want?" Or, what about "Our OS is great - forget about all that other stuff you do on your current phone?" Why not resurrect "Tools Not Toys?" You need an audience to market to. And don't give me that "tell people this is what they want and they'll blindly buy it" hoo-hah. It didn't work for BlackBerry post-iPhone and it wouldn't work now. Consumers aren't quite as stupid as many around here hope.
Or, do you save your money and hope to ride it out long enough to either 1) gain app/developer traction or 2) sell the company?
It's amazing how ignorant the masses are to how tech works, and the implications security breaches can have on their livelihood. Unfortunately it will have to get a whole lot worse before it gets better, and humble pie isn't popular.
Posted via CB1011-27-15 03:24 AMLike 0 - Chen had nothing to do with the launch marketing of the Z10/BB10. That was all Heins.
Here's some food for thought. You've developed a new OS/phone. You've reached out to everyone in the smartphone app space. You've had multiple developer events. All you have to show for it going into your new product launch is:
- No major app/developer support
- Limited native app development
- Poor ports of Android apps which drag the phone's performance and battery down
What's your marketing strategy? Do you tell folks "Buy our platform even though it doesn't have the apps you want?" Or, what about "Our OS is great - forget about all that other stuff you do on your current phone?" Why not resurrect "Tools Not Toys?" You need an audience to market to. And don't give me that "tell people this is what they want and they'll blindly buy it" hoo-hah. It didn't work for BlackBerry post-iPhone and it wouldn't work now. Consumers aren't quite as stupid as many around here hope.
Or, do you save your money and hope to ride it out long enough to either 1) gain app/developer traction or 2) sell the company?11-27-15 06:53 AMLike 0 - Dear Mr. Chen
I think you made the best move possible and the right decision at the right time regarding BB10. Now to continue to make good decisions would be to wait and pray that the BlackDroid or as you poorly named your new Flagship the Priv (Eww!), gets wide spread acceptance and popularity and perhaps the Priv 2 and after all that you need to consider re-invigorating BB10. I've used all the other three major OS'S and BB10 is the best OS I've used and swear by it. Seeing how the Priv is built like a BB10 phone why not eventually offer it with BB10 on it if not for a new option for you current loyal BlackBerry fans/users but to promote it to people who would have now realized that BlackBerry is back with the pending success of the Priv and hopefully Priv 2. People will become curious when they know you can make a great phone again and try BB10 if offered in a up to date model. I know once tried you will gain more users. Continued work should also be applied to BB10 whether it be bugs, features or the work around for apps cause if and when you try this you need to figure out the main consumer problem which is apps.
If you kill BB10 for real a little piece of me will die inside with it. Then you will be on the hook for murder 1
Posted via CB10pomidor likes this.11-27-15 08:38 AMLike 1 - Mr. Chen,
I don't know if you already decided if BlackBerry 10 is dead or not, maybe you are still waiting to see if selling Android devices will be a success. I am planning to buy a BlackBerry Passport Silver Edition. When I bought my awesome BlackBerry Z10 all my friends, all the YouTube reviewers, all the carriers employees told me not to buy a BlackBerry device. I was very close to buy an Android device but I took a chance and bought this superb BlackBerry 10.
Now I am in the same situation and I will buy the BlackBerry Passport SE no matter what. Your plan for BlackBerry 10 is to put it in maintenance mode. Can you please be more specific what kind of support will we get for BlackBerry 10 from now on and for how long? I know that me purchasing 1 device doesn't help your company but it would be very helpful for me and other users to know exactly what will we get from this BlackBerry 10 support.
Posted via CB1011-27-15 03:01 PMLike 0 - Mr. Chen,
I don't know if you already decided if BlackBerry 10 is dead or not, maybe you are still waiting to see if selling Android devices will be a success. I am planning to buy a BlackBerry Passport Silver Edition. When I bought my awesome BlackBerry Z10 all my friends, all the YouTube reviewers, all the carriers employees told me not to buy a BlackBerry device. I was very close to buy an Android device but I took a chance and bought this superb BlackBerry 10.
Now I am in the same situation and I will buy the BlackBerry Passport SE no matter what. Your plan for BlackBerry 10 is to put it in maintenance mode. Can you please be more specific what kind of support will we get for BlackBerry 10 from now on and for how long? I know that me purchasing 1 device doesn't help your company but it would be very helpful for me and other users to know exactly what will we get from this BlackBerry 10 support.
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"We are confirming plans to release platform updates focused on security and privacy enhancements, with version 10.3.3 scheduled to be available in early 2016."11-27-15 03:16 PMLike 0 - Don't you guys realize that whoever the CEO is, he's got to answer directly to major shareholders like Prem Watsa, first? It's not like the shareholders are going to let the CEO spend the cash on a hardware comeback pipe-dream. The cash reserve is part of the liquidation value of the company so if I own 10% of the company then you're spending my money. The CEO doesn't just get to walk away and say "Well, I spent all of your cash but at least I tried." That's not how it works. I'll bet Prem Watsa couldn't care less about the hardware business at this point.eylee likes this.11-27-15 03:29 PMLike 1
- Don't you guys realize that whoever the CEO is, he's got to answer directly to major shareholders like Prem Watsa, first? It's not like the shareholders are going to let the CEO spend the cash on a hardware comeback pipe-dream. The cash reserve is part of the liquidation value of the company so if I own 10% of the company then you're spending my money. The CEO doesn't just get to walk away and say "Well, I spent all of your cash but at least I tried." That's not how it works. I'll bet Prem Watsa couldn't care less about the hardware business at this point.
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Posted via CB1011-27-15 03:43 PMLike 0 - That's true. When the Android BlackBerry was just a rumor I read an article about the fact that the only chance for John Chen to convince the shareholders staying in the handsets business is to release an Android smartphone. But in the same time is the CEO job to make a business plan AND SELL IT to the shareholders.
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Posted via CB10Sir Reaper likes this.11-27-15 07:49 PMLike 1 - See, that's part of the problem. What right does a carrier employee, have to tell me what to buy and what to buy? Who in the world do they think they are? If I'm coming into the store to purchase a BlackBerry because that's what I decided I wanted/needed, without me asking for advice. What possess them to try to talk me out of what I've decided to purchase?11-27-15 08:04 PMLike 0
- Mr Chen,
Thanks but no thanks, others do Android better, I don't want Android so while it's irrelevant as losing my business won't hurt you I'm unfortunately out of here. Will use my Z30 until it dies then hello Windows Phone.
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