- Belfastdisp - you are wrong here.
Ok, here's the trick:
Pull out sim card, boot phone. Connect via wifi. Everything works.
If not, either provider is blocking it, either you have some problems with ip addresses (i.e. Bad dns)
Posted via fantastic BlackBerry Passport. Damn, this thing is so awesome, that I am short of words to describe it's awesomenes. Like Majestic As...12-28-14 06:27 PMLike 0 - Belfastdisp - you are wrong here.
Ok, here's the trick:
Pull out sim card, boot phone. Connect via wifi. Everything works.
If not, either provider is blocking it, either you have some problems with ip addresses (i.e. Bad dns)
Posted via fantastic BlackBerry Passport. Damn, this thing is so awesome, that I am short of words to describe it's awesomenes. Like Majestic As...12-28-14 06:37 PMLike 0 -
Posted via CB10 on Q1012-28-14 06:40 PMLike 0 - Belfastdisp - you are wrong here.
Ok, here's the trick:
Pull out sim card, boot phone. Connect via wifi. Everything works.
If not, either provider is blocking it, either you have some problems with ip addresses (i.e. Bad dns)
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Posted via CB10 on Q1012-28-14 06:40 PMLike 0 -
Sounds like BB10 taps into that for certain things.12-28-14 06:50 PMLike 0 -
Z10STL100-3/10.3.1.115412-28-14 07:24 PMLike 0 - I would LOVE to get BIS service again. Push emails were great on my old BlackBerry Curve...yes it was an extra charge...glad to pay it and have it...sorry it's gone I the US on BlackBerry 10.
Crackberry Genius on Verizon Z10 on10.3.1.115412-29-14 12:20 AMLike 0 -
I never said its full BIS, but they still use the BIS infrastructure somehow.12-29-14 05:18 AMLike 0 - I am still pushing with Maroc Telecom to get full BlackBerry services as I should have.
They claim that Maroc Telecom propose BBM as a paid service because they decided that BIS wa mandatory for BBM on BlackBerry only.
A answered that it was simply against BlackBerry's business or a nonsense rule.
I am being called back by the product manager this afternoon.
To be continued...
Posted via CB10 on Q1012-29-14 07:34 AMLike 0 - I've seen carriers enforce certain rules even without bis. Rogers enforced bbm video to be a paid service (wouldn't even work on wifi!), and also Bell bb10 devices at first launch would only work with certain data plans (they eventually backed off this policy and removed that restriction I believe). So I'm not so sure being on an android/iPhone data plan will work. Definitely worth trying though.
That being said, some carriers have made the choice to charge clients even though extra service is not required. BB has no control over this.12-29-14 07:49 AMLike 0 -
Previously, with BIS, without bb symbol you could not have bbm or email, or almost any other service. With bb10 - you get email regardless BlackBerry symbol
Posted via fantastic BlackBerry Passport. Damn, this thing is so awesome, that I am short of words to describe it's awesomenes. Like Majestic As...12-29-14 08:32 AMLike 0 - That BB symbol means nothing more than phone has established connection to BlackBerry servers. (you need that if you want BBM running.)
Previously, with BIS, without bb symbol you could not have bbm or email, or almost any other service. With bb10 - you get email regardless BlackBerry symbol
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Also email still works while the BB symbol is not there but you can no longer set up a new account by just entering the email address and password, you would have to enter all settings manually.12-29-14 08:36 AMLike 0 - It is free, it is carriers pulling a quick one as most people have the misconception that BlackBerry's require a special plan, so why not take advantage of that and make some extra money.12-29-14 09:08 AMLike 0
- Yes, exactly my point, what if to get that symbol on and to use BBM in BB10 some use of the special Legacy BIS and BES hardware carriers had to install still happens? I would say carriers would have the right to be a little annoyed.
Also email still works while the BB symbol is not there but you can no longer set up a new account by just entering the email address and password, you would have to enter all settings manually.
With bb10 phone acts as any other platform: ios, android, windows. It just connects to x.x.x.x:xxx ip and port and it works.
In this case, carrier probably blocks ip/port for BlackBerry phones.
Option could be to use some sort of vpn for mobile, as op said it works fine on wifi (meaning bis is not required).
Wonder if OP tied following:
1) check APNs/ip addresses from friends/coleagues androids/ios who's bbm works.
2) did you talk to operator, saying that you have a regular android device, therefore you do not need bis anymore?
Posted via fantastic BlackBerry Passport. Damn, this thing is so awesome, that I am short of words to describe it's awesomenes. Like Majestic As...12-29-14 09:26 AMLike 0 -
Not sure where you got that info from but it definitely is not right. If yours didn't work, you just encountered a bug so all you had to do was uninstall BBM and reinstall it.
if you are talking about BBM Meetings (3+ person group video chat) that is not Rogers/Bell's doing that is BlackBerry's doing12-29-14 09:28 AMLike 0 - This is just wrong. In order to connect to BlackBerry server, PREVIOUSLY all traffic had to be routed through BIS or BES as it was some sort of VPN.
With bb10 phone acts as any other platform: ios, android, windows. It just connects to x.x.x.x:xxx ip and port and it works.
In this case, carrier probably blocks ip/port for BlackBerry phones.
Option could be to use some sort of vpn for mobile, as op said it works fine on wifi (meaning bis is not required).
Wonder if OP tied following:
1) check APNs/ip addresses from friends/coleagues androids/ios who's bbm works.
2) did you talk to operator, saying that you have a regular android device, therefore you do not need bis anymore?
Posted via fantastic BlackBerry Passport. Damn, this thing is so awesome, that I am short of words to describe it's awesomenes. Like Majestic As...12-29-14 09:30 AMLike 0 - To bellfastdispatcher, when I turn off wireless and go through WiFi, I can connect to the noc. Your statement is wrong.
Posted via CB1012-29-14 09:35 AMLike 0 -
- This is just wrong. In order to connect to BlackBerry server, PREVIOUSLY all traffic had to be routed through BIS or BES as it was some sort of VPN.
With bb10 phone acts as any other platform: ios, android, windows. It just connects to x.x.x.x:xxx ip and port and it works.
In this case, carrier probably blocks ip/port for BlackBerry phones.
Option could be to use some sort of vpn for mobile, as op said it works fine on wifi (meaning bis is not required).
Wonder if OP tied following:
1) check APNs/ip addresses from friends/coleagues androids/ios who's bbm works.
2) did you talk to operator, saying that you have a regular android device, therefore you do not need bis anymore?
Posted via fantastic BlackBerry Passport. Damn, this thing is so awesome, that I am short of words to describe it's awesomenes. Like Majestic As...
1/ APN on android and Z10 are the same.
On Android, everything is just fine. On Z10 : Browser, push mail and BlackBerry World work. BBM Whatsapp Protect Viber etc... are bloqued due to "phone failed to connect to BlackBerry Server"
2/they claim that my BB10 device is set up as a regular android phone for browsing only. BlackBerry Services as BBM must be paid as a special service for 300 Dhs VAT (37.5 USD).
NB : I am still waiting for the Product Manager to call me back. I think it will take long...
Posted via CB10 on Q1012-29-14 09:55 AMLike 0 - A lot of arguing about this....
But it seems to me that if a carrier wants to continue to make more money off of BlackBerry users they can do it if they want to... it's their network. And I'm sure they are smart enough to figure out how to block the communication between a BlackBerry and the NOC.
It's why we really need to have options in the choice of Carriers....12-29-14 10:31 AMLike 2
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