- I never buy blackberry again after bbandroid release like priv and the Last motion. Why? You are like games, they will control yours what they want.
And now we learn from bbos and bb10, they leave it, I think it is like blackberry detek50 60 prive won't supported. Ckckckck...
I don't like this factory again. Accepted blackberry passport
Posted via CB1005-05-18 06:27 AMLike 0 -
- I never buy blackberry again after bbandroid release like priv and the Last motion. Why? You are like games, they will control yours what they want.
And now we learn from bbos and bb10, they leave it, I think it is like blackberry detek50 60 prive won't supported. Ckckckck...
I don't like this factory again. Accepted blackberry passport
Posted via CB1005-05-18 07:33 AMLike 0 - Same here BlackBerry 10 till the last breath of the OS or maybe until September, the new IPhone is coming and could be the moment....
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I have always wanted to ask you about the perception of the BlackBerry Android devices for someone in your field of finance and investment management in the US?
Having a background in the same field myself, BlackBerry still has a decent level of market penetration in Canada either with devices such as the Classic, 9900 or some of the other BlackBerry phones. It's not unusual to see finance and law professionals using them in 2018.
Since a lot of people in finance might have had BlackBerry devices for years up until probably 2011, 2012 when things started to go downhill quickly, I am wondering what your colleagues opinion of the devices and brand is now. Do you see a lot of them ever converting or being interested in the future? Does BlackBerry Mobile have a chance at getting any market within that industry and others such as law in the US or is it dead in the water?
Appreciate your insights.
Thx
Posted via CB10Bbnivende likes this.05-05-18 08:03 PMLike 1 - I have always wanted to ask you about the perception of the BlackBerry Android devices for someone in your field of finance and investment management in the US?
Having a background in the same field myself, BlackBerry still has a decent level of market penetration in Canada either with devices such as the Classic, 9900 or some of the other BlackBerry phones. It's not unusual to see finance and law professionals using them in 2018.
Since a lot of people in finance might have had BlackBerry devices for years up until probably 2011, 2012 when things started to go downhill quickly, I am wondering what your colleagues opinion of the devices and brand is now. Do you see a lot of them ever converting or being interested in the future? Does BlackBerry Mobile have a chance at getting any market within that industry and others such as law in the US or is it dead in the water?
Appreciate your insights.
Thx
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I'm not sure how the specific profession is relevant.05-05-18 08:20 PMLike 0 - I have always wanted to ask you about the perception of the BlackBerry Android devices for someone in your field of finance and investment management in the US?
Having a background in the same field myself, BlackBerry still has a decent level of market penetration in Canada either with devices such as the Classic, 9900 or some of the other BlackBerry phones. It's not unusual to see finance and law professionals using them in 2018.
Since a lot of people in finance might have had BlackBerry devices for years up until probably 2011, 2012 when things started to go downhill quickly, I am wondering what your colleagues opinion of the devices and brand is now. Do you see a lot of them ever converting or being interested in the future? Does BlackBerry Mobile have a chance at getting any market within that industry and others such as law in the US or is it dead in the water?
Appreciate your insights.
Thx
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EMM and MDM solutions were developed for Android/IOS that allowed both mobile OS to perform more effectively than BBOS using BIS or BES and more securely than BB10. All that BBAndroid has over Android is that BB feel over plain Android. Since corporate users have adjusted to Android/IOS with BYOD or enterprise provided devices, those users moved on. The only fundamental difference is PKB and that’s a user preference only.
Companies already lock down Android with Knox so BBAndroid is just another choice. BBMo has the opportunity to win share back if carriers get back on board with business accounts but devices have to be priced attractively over current default options. If BB can help BBMo in helping secure internal corporate mobile apps better or provide industry privacy required guarantees, that could help. This is all software based and companies have to be willing to pay over their own internal development costs. It may be just as easily provided for all mobile devices using BBAndroid software developed for all devices on Android. That helps BB more and not so much for BBMo.Laura Knotek and co4nd like this.05-05-18 08:27 PMLike 2 - Conite & Chuck,
I appreciate both of your commentary on the topic as I have always wondered wither BlackBerry Mobile would gain any traction with corporate users again in the US.
The Keyone has been moderately successful for BlackBerry Mobile as per their comments and I hope that the successor is also well priced, well build and performs to expectations.
When I talk to people who used BlackBerry devices in a corporate environment, years before things like apps and social media became such a unique part of our lives, people always had positive things to say about them. The keyboard, the battery, the build quality and longevity. People would miss their BlackBerry phones and even on social media channels and whenever a famous person mentions it, people will always show appreciation and found memories but a lot of people have yet to return.
For my personal tastes, I need the keyboard as I have always loved the clean, executive and polished look of a BlackBerry.
Thanks again and sorry about the long post!
Posted via CB10Laura Knotek likes this.05-05-18 08:38 PMLike 1 -
Fast forward to today and the KEYone is on the short list for approved Android devices.
I don't know about other companies, but when mine sent notices about BES shutting down, a large contingent of employees were quite vocal about having to move to an iPhone. I do believe there's definitely a core group of corporate BB users out there who want to be serviced.Laura Knotek likes this.05-05-18 09:24 PMLike 1 - My employer (software company with 90k+ employees) retired BES at the end of 2015 and only supported iOS and a handful of Android devices (mostly the Samsung Galaxy and Note line). I was lucky enough to get my PRIV and every subsequent BerryDroid device on Android for as I thought my Passport SE would be the last BB device I'd get to use for work.
Fast forward to today and the KEYone is on the short list for approved Android devices.
I don't know about other companies, but when mine sent notices about BES shutting down, a large contingent of employees were quite vocal about having to move to an iPhone. I do believe there's definitely a core group of corporate BB users out there who want to be serviced.05-06-18 08:00 AMLike 0 -
The ironic part is given a choice, I believe at least half of the company would prefer something other than an iPhone. When I'm in the field or at our large conferences, I get ribbed quite a bit for having a BB but then the ribbers always end up saying "you know, I was way more productive with my old BB then I was with this iPhone" .
Just goes to show you that the "best" OS doesn't always win. For big corporations , it's about achieving economies of scale. As much as I find iOS too primitive, Apple's scalability, purchasing power and softwares developer influence is unmatched and companies will latch on, even if it's an inferior product technically speaking.
It's about mindshare, marketing and hooking your target audience early, getting that adoption and turning them into lifetime customers. BB missed that boat when the shift in the mobile environment turned to consumers.05-06-18 08:58 AMLike 2 - My company is probably 90% iOS and 10% Android for Work. BES and WP support ended at the end of 2015. iPhones are the default device that is issued and you have to raise an exception to get approved for Android for Work. Most people aren't super mobile geeks like we are so can't be bothered and therefore end up getting an iPhone whether they like it or not. Very few people BYOD.
The ironic part is given a choice, I believe at least half of the company would prefer something other than an iPhone. When I'm in the field or at our large conferences, I get ribbed quite a bit for having a BB but then the ribbers always end up saying "you know, I was way more productive with my old BB then I was with this iPhone" .
Just goes to show you that the "best" OS doesn't always win. For big corporations , it's about achieving economies of scale. As much as I find iOS too primitive, Apple's scalability, purchasing power and softwares developer influence is unmatched and companies will latch on, even if it's an inferior product technically speaking.
It's about mindshare, marketing and hooking your target audience early, getting that adoption and turning them into lifetime customers. BB missed that boat when the shift in the mobile environment turned to consumers.pdr733 likes this.05-06-18 09:34 AMLike 1 -
- When I talk to people who used BlackBerry devices in a corporate environment, years before things like apps and social media became such a unique part of our lives, people always had positive things to say about them. The keyboard, the battery, the build quality and longevity. People would miss their BlackBerry phones and even on social media channels and whenever a famous person mentions it, people will always show appreciation and found memories but a lot of people have yet to return.
When people buy a smartphone today, they compare the offerings of TODAY - not based on a decade ago. Apple completely re-defined what a smartphone was, and then Apps and high-quality cameras, audio, sensors, and accessories-integration further widened the definition of what a smartphone should do for the vast majority of users. BB fought against those trends for far too long, because they knew BBOS couldn't keep up but the sooner they replaced BBOS, the sooner they would lose their primary source of revenue - which was never smartphone sales, but Service Access Fees (SAFs) for BIS and BES. Mike Lazaridis painted BB into a corner, and he could never figure a way back out, because he was unwilling to disrupt his existing product line - and allowed the rest of the market to disrupt it for him.05-06-18 04:04 PMLike 6 - Android a step backwards. I just love the BB10 Os. It is simply awesome! BlackBerry killed itself by going crapdroid.Nathan Dyck likes this.05-08-18 12:50 AMLike 1
- So everyone goes to Android...Blackberry too. It's so boring, just apps, no hub, no real evolution although so many android versions.
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