- Nope. Google had datamining and advertising to pay for the "free OS". Ignorant (yes ignorant because not even Sergey Brin knows how that data is going to be used against you or him in the future) people who didn't make enough money to afford paying the price of an honest product rushed to use it.
That's how Google won the market.
Sure, you can argue they understood human nature, but not that they designed a better product.
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No one could have afforded the upfront costs necessary to fund billions of dollars in research and development.05-28-17 07:21 PMLike 0 - I think if Blackberry could get those developers to create, sustain and maintain those main application then this alone should be sufficient to grow the BB10. Unfortunately those people at Blackberry has been running the company in a wrong way. Every Tom, **** and Harry knows that application keeps the OS alive. If you do not have enough application then you should expect people to jump ship. From 2010 they have all the time in the world to populate the dam app store and yet they still fail to do so.
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I always use the Netflix example. Their Android app already worked on BB10, as is. They didn't even make the effort to port their app to BlackBerry World, even when BlackBerry agreed to do it for them.BigBadWulf and jmr1015 like this.05-28-17 09:48 PMLike 2 -
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BB tried to make an improved product without trying to make it successful first - and now that product is irrelevant.
The results clearly show which was the right strategy.05-29-17 02:54 AMLike 4 - That's the point: Google did what would make their product successful - understanding that if it was successful, it could be improved later.
BB tried to make an improved product without trying to make it successful first - and now that product is irrelevant.
The results clearly show which was the right strategy.
Lazaridis cared deeply about the privacy of the user, maybe above company success. Money, obviously wasn't everything for him (and some of us) or else he wouldn't have donated hundreds of millions of dollars to the progress of Canadian theoretical physics research.
Posted via CB1005-29-17 04:43 AMLike 2 -
- Nope. Google had datamining and advertising to pay for the "free OS". Ignorant (yes ignorant because not even Sergey Brin knows how that data is going to be used against you or him in the future) people who didn't make enough money to afford paying the price of an honest product rushed to use it.
That's how Google won the market.
Sure, you can argue they understood human nature, but not that they designed a better product.
Posted via CB1005-29-17 06:10 AMLike 0 - I am not a supporter of Apple, so I don't have to have any excuses for them. For now, neither Apple nor BlackBerry have data mining for advertising as their main business focus and revenue, like Google has.
They sell their products for a price.
Google sells their products in exchage for the user's private data whose value is unknown to the user. The user never knows the price of the products he/she gets from Google "for free."
That price is not fixed, it evolves over time as society, governments and company values change. It's the most stupid and ignorant decision a user can make.
Posted via CB1005-29-17 06:59 AMLike 0 -
I'm comfortable with their privacy policy, and their firewalls.
I'm comfortable knowing that the successes of their business model depends on how they respect the privacy of their users.
I'm comfortable with the oversight that third parties and governments provide.05-29-17 07:33 AMLike 6 - They offered cash, free support, and development assistance to many app developers. It was clear that these developers were not interested in a third ecosystem - as they could already reach almost everyone in the world with only two apps.
I always use the Netflix example. Their Android app already worked on BB10, as is. They didn't even make the effort to port their app to BlackBerry World, even when BlackBerry agreed to do it for them.
I even wrote to Amazon support about why Netflix no longer shows up, and was told that the developer requested to be removed from the list on BlackBerry phones.
When you have major app developers who harbor that kind of animosity towards a manufacturer, you know something went wrong along the way.
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Posted via CB1005-29-17 11:37 AMLike 0 - To take the Netflix issue further... when BlackBerry made the deal to include the https://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...ticle35086714/
I even wrote to Amazon support about why Netflix no longer shows up, and was told that the developer requested to be removed from the list on BlackBerry phones.
When you have major app developers who harbor that kind of animosity towards a manufacturer, you know something went wrong along the way.
Joel
Why spend resources to support BB10 when the number of users is vanishingly small?05-29-17 11:49 AMLike 0 - You don't need to insult those of us who consciously use Google knowing full well what the arrangement is.
I'm comfortable with their privacy policy, and their firewalls.
I'm comfortable knowing that the successes of their business model depends on how they respect the privacy of their users.
I'm comfortable with the oversight that third parties and governments provide.
There is no way of telling how data that looks innocuous now can harm you in the future. You may not care now, but you don't know if you'll care about it 5-10 years from now. What is racist and politically incorrect now, was OK and the norm 100 years ago and in some cases even more recently.
Posted via CB1005-29-17 01:45 PMLike 0 - I also remember that Reed Hastings was on Microsoft's board of directors at the time. I wouldn't be surprised if Ballmer had some influence in that decision because really BB10 and Windows phone were heavily competing for 3rd place.05-29-17 02:20 PMLike 0
- Sorry. Did not want to insult you or others, but even you cannot guarantee that the data Google collects now will not be used by others in a different way if Google changes CEO, boards, policies in the future, or gets acquired or folds.
There is no way of telling how data that looks innocuous now can harm you in the future. You may not care now, but you don't know if you'll care about it 5-10 years from now. What is racist and politically incorrect now, was OK and the norm 100 years ago and in some cases even more recently.
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There is far greater risk from a former spouse or business partner making life miserable, or a financial advisor making away with large sums of money. But we still get married, start businesses, and make investments.
As I said, I'm comfortable with letting a black box at Google have my information. I'm not realistically concerned about a military junta taking over in the States, or an abandonment of privacy oversight in the future.05-29-17 02:24 PMLike 0 - I'm curious to know if the original BlackBerry founders are even using a BlackBerry device that's pure BB. I know I would be vex seeing how a company I built from the ground up is now a servant to a competitor that only wants to spy on your privacy. The mobile market sucks like the NBA. The mobile market reminds me of the NBA. Two top teams dominating the league like Android and Apple dominating the mobile market. There is no good choices out here. Sigh. We need a new mobile competitor with its own OS. It's pretty much comes down to which hardware is better now. They all run the same OS. BB10 over anything don't care how old it is. Still better than Android and Apple.
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All devices if
bbos was for Apple or Microsoft or Samsung never die
never wasnt here
I understand, bb10 dead
They want kill it
Ceo want kill it
Rim could do better but they didn't want
I think they sell bb to some governments because of high security in 10.3.3 we see
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And for the sake of shareholders, thank god.app_Developer likes this.05-29-17 03:10 PMLike 1
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