- Yes. They are apps in the app store. Flash isn't on the iphone so calling them flash games is misleading. Some may use air, but I'm mot sure how many.
Flash performance issues have been widely known since 2010. There is too much info to dump in this thread and I don't really give much credence to synthetic benchmarks because they are what they are.
Google for the relevant info. Its there and the fact that I don't want to fumble around on a phone to copy and paste links doesn't change that.
That performance benchmark doesn't address multiple things that affect power usage in mobile devices...
Microsofts Windows RT/Metro runtime works similar to air yet makes much better use of resources. An air app will never be as performance as a Windows Phone 8 app on hardware like the L520... Why is that?
We already see how poor flash and air apps perform compared to native and metro apps on desktops with much superior hardware to mobile devices, and we see their excessive memory and CPU usage there as well. Flash has improve a bit with hardware acceleration, but so have browsers.
The benchmark you linked is from 2010. 3 years and 10 months ago, almost... it's mot useful. Browsers have improved a lot more than mobile flash has. Flash for mobile isn't even in development anymore. Only maintenance mode. Link something more relevant.
JavaScript and Engines in browsers have improved exponentially over the past 4 years. This is like linking an IE8 benchmark and saying its a slow browser. That benchmark is objectively worthless.
You do realize almost no browsers were hardware accelerated back then, for example?
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Posted via CB1001-03-14 01:17 PMLike 0 - I just gave you an example of an Adobe Air iOS game with 80k+ positive reviews. Try it! It looks just like a native game. And before you say anything, it is a Flash game. The developer says so on his website: http://julianfrost.co.nz/things/dumb-ways-to-die-game/
Flash is more powerful than you think. I'm not saying it's faster than native code, but it is definitely faster than HTML 5 and JavaScript.
And regarding battery life, I watch many Flash videos in a day on my BlackBerry Q10 and I've never had any issues.
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I don't play any games on my devices and I'm not downloading any AIR apps on my device either. On Android it requires a runtime install (iOS developers embed the runtime, I think).
Canvas has been outperforming Flash since IE added hardware acceleration, BTW :-)
The only semi have for flash is audio and video. HTML5 is better for both and any website worth its salt is compatible with iphone and android browsers (safari and chrome).
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk01-03-14 01:17 PMLike 0 - Its clearly worthless. Thats the fact of that matter.
Its basically 4 years. Not just 3.
Its an IE8 era benchmark... before any major browsers (except maybe safari?) Had hardware acceleration implemented.
The Galaxy S wasn't even on the market. Nor the iPhone 4. Not any OS7 devices.
Yes. If you wanted hardware accelerated graphics back then flash was necessary. Its why it gained such prominence as a plugin. Because it provided that.
Why are you linking worthless benchmarks?
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk01-03-14 01:18 PMLike 0 - It really doesn't matter to the end user which is better...your phone just needs the ability to access flash. it's not complicated.
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Posted via CB1001-03-14 01:23 PMLike 0 -
Why can't you understand that?
IE didn't have that until version 9. FF around a similar time frame (maybe even a little before). Chrome and Opera were after those.
You don't automatically gain this. Browser engines and JavaScript engines had to be engineered to do that.
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Posted via CB1001-03-14 01:27 PMLike 0 - I have seen benchmarks that said otherwise. And, for a lot more than just Canvas.
You picked then first search result seen it looked good for you and linked it here. I just ran the search and see that. Limit the date range of your search results. It helps avoid old useless material.
Also my system is inappropriiate for synthetic benchmarks since it doesn't have anything resembling a set-up for it. Have someone else do that.
Thread was derailed. Lets give the other posters room to discuss other things. PM me if you want to discuss further.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk01-03-14 01:33 PMLike 0 -
Did you try that game on your iPhone/iPad yet?
I used to be an ActionScript developer and then I moved on. I am aware of the limitations of Flash (I actually prefer JavaScript and HTML 5 now), but performance isn't one of them. I don't understand why people (like you) prefer to just jump on the "Flash sucks" bandwagon without even opening Flash Builder or running a simple benchmark.
Posted via CB1001-03-14 01:45 PMLike 0 - I honestly haven't seen any that say Canvas or SVG are faster than Flash. It would be great if you could send me a link or something.
Did you try that game on your iPhone/iPad yet?
I used to be an ActionScript developer and then I moved on. I am aware of the limitations of Flash (I actually prefer JavaScript and HTML 5 now), but performance isn't one of them. I don't understand why people (like you) prefer to just jump on the "Flash sucks" bandwagon without even opening Flash Builder or running a simple benchmark.
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Apple didn't reject flash because it was slow. PMs please now.
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- Regardless, there are still lots of flash web sites out there. Any phone that can't access them is at a disadvantage.
Posted via CB1001-03-14 01:50 PMLike 0 -
Anyway, I'm out. Good chat.
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Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk01-03-14 01:58 PMLike 0 -
Most people didn't care about Flash. How many tech blogs reported user outrage when FW updates removed it from people's phones?
Flash was big in 2010 because Flash was still to mobile videobwhat Blackberry was to smartphones back then.
Things changed. Its simply not a factor anymore.
Great, you have flash. +1 for blackberry.
There are iOS and Android browsers that can play flash video anyways, but that wasn't the focus of the discussion we were having.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk01-03-14 02:01 PMLike 0 - The "focus" of your argument was irrelevant to the thread topic.
Be that as it may. The iPhone fails on Falsh. Switching apps is slow compared to BB10. Calendar integration is bad on the iPhone.
The iPhone is a great entertainment device. That's about it.
Posted via CB1001-03-14 02:10 PMLike 0 - A few other cool/useful features (I don't believe they were mentioned): Internet Tethering, Parental Controls, Default apps, Device/Card Encryption, App Manager, setting songs as ringtones and FM radio.
Posted via CB1001-03-14 02:45 PMLike 0 -
- Wow, who to believe, someone who provides a link to an actual benchmark or someone when pressed to give proof simply says "it is known."
Man, this is such a tough decision...
It's so weird that one cannot even provide anecdotal evidence when it is such a "widely known fact." Examples should be easy to come by then wouldn't it?
Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB1001-03-14 02:57 PMLike 0 - The "focus" of your argument was irrelevant to the thread topic.
Be that as it may. The iPhone fails on Falsh. Switching apps is slow compared to BB10. Calendar integration is bad on the iPhone.
The iPhone is a great entertainment device. That's about it.
Posted via CB1001-03-14 05:07 PMLike 0 - So you are saying BlackBerry is like Mercedes? Good point!
Actually, I agree. The iPhone is a better mobile computing device.
BlackBerry is a better communication device.
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