If BlackBerry 10 gets dropped, they should open source it
- Again you are making assumptions. I got back from an IT conference in the spring. For regulated markets and large enterprises, the consultant from the US stated that BlackBerry still makes between 25-30 percent of the NA market.12-05-15 08:31 PMLike 0
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- Again, please look at the facts. That article you used to state your BYOD "facts" had no breakdown for BYOD. You are assuming that all enterprise activations are BYOD. All Good talked about was activations which could have been BYOD or company supplied.
So. Do you have any facts about how prevalent BYOD is in the enterprise field?12-05-15 08:38 PMLike 0 - Again, please look at the facts. That article you used to state your BYOD "facts" had no breakdown for BYOD. You are assuming that all enterprise activations are BYOD. All Good talked about was activations which could have been BYOD or company supplied.
So. Do you have any facts about how prevalent BYOD is in the enterprise field?12-05-15 08:41 PMLike 0 - Keep in mind that Good mainly had products for iOS and Android, their service for BB10 was limited outside of MDM I believe.
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BYOD is also on the decrease because of a couple of court rulings and concerns about security. It wasn't the cost savings that businesses thought it would be.12-05-15 08:51 PMLike 0 -
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Vast majority of Android phones running on outdated OS version, the rest are the expensive flagships.
From a cost point of view, back in 2013 I could have bought two BB10 devices (Q5 or Z10s) for one Android flagship.
Since all Android OEMs except Samsung are making losses and Android security is a complete joke, going Android is neither sustainable nor secure. Also hopping MDM solutions is easier said than done.
I still have the feeling that I am missing something, like a stupid �political� decision, because staying with BlackBerry would have been less risky, less costly and more sustainable than going Android.
A (loss making small company with a) good product is less scary than a (loss making giant company with a) bad product;
Sure OS 10.1 and BES 10 had deficits in 2013, but overall customers who stick with BlackBerry get good products over time.
Developing internal apps seems to be a reasonable argument. I could imagine the labor market is saturated with cheap Android developers.
Qt4 of BB10 is in many ways not a sustainable strategy, I don't think app developers in 2016 would still like to deal with Qt4, though it seems you can make good money with enterprise apps.Bluenoser63 and Richard Buckley like this.12-06-15 05:58 AMLike 2 - Great post, I would just add a few points..
Thank you for these points, but on a second look it isn’t convincing for me.
Vast majority of Android phones running on outdated OS version, the rest are the expensive flagships.
From a cost point of view, back in 2013 I could have bought two BB10 devices (Q5 or Z10s) for one Android flagship.
Since all Android OEMs except Samsung are making losses and Android security is a complete joke, going Android is neither sustainable nor secure. Also hopping MDM solutions is easier said than done.
I still have the feeling that I am missing something, like a stupid “political” decision, because staying with BlackBerry would have been less risky, less costly and more sustainable than going Android.
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Developing internal apps seems to be a reasonable argument. I could imagine the labor market is saturated with cheap Android developers.
Qt4 of BB10 is in many ways not a sustainable strategy, I don't think app developers in 2016 would still like to deal with Qt4, though it seems you can make good money with enterprise apps.12-06-15 10:06 AMLike 0 - I like very much BlackBerry 10
It is what we I call an intelligent OS and that is possible to work with.
About Priv, it has Google code there, it is possible to do something about, but it always has the Google hand and that's not good, at least for me.
Another chance is Linux phone, with same philosophy than BB10, that should be very interesting.
PlasmaPhone already is happening, in very very slow speed, but I already spoke about what is the main thing: HUB and communications build up.
So, the if BlackBerry goes down, I will invest on my Plasma Phone.
IOS and Android are different philosophy, it is analyzed like this:
Usually how people use their IOS and Android that you know??
Best regards ArchGalileu PassportSQW100-1/10.3.2.281312-06-15 10:25 AMLike 0 - Superfly_FRRetired ModeratorGood had :
1/ A non overlapping portfolio of clients (brings instant market shares - yes, BES+Good is #1 worldwide by a significant number, say 15%+)
2/ A well recognized, known and already installed MDM solution for iOS devices (+/- 60%) and other platforms where they do had more experience than BlackBerry (talent recruitment by external growth)
3/ (as mentioned before) A vast portfolio of "containerized apps" ready to roll that I won't be surprised to find sooner than later also supporting BES (alone or via a "compatibility plug-in") and a new interest from their editors for anything BlackBerry.
The platform has more than 2,000 independent software vendor and custom applications built today.
Good was
1/ Near bankruptcy (extremely cheap)
2/ Somehow the best worst friend of BlackBerry since their CEO declared that they will "kill" BlackBerry and Chen stated they'll hear from them sooner than they believe (or the likes).
Wrap-up : Cheap acquisition of market shares plus talents and technology plus editors de facto enrollment.
Nice move, John.
Back on topic ? Last item (SW vendors) is 100% on topic12-06-15 12:37 PMLike 0 - I am from Canada and BB devices are being phased out from the corporate world as well. Corporations are moving away from issuing BB's and adopting the BYOD model. In my company - BYOD is being implemented by next year and now iphones and Samsung are the devices being issued to employees that does not want to buy their own devices. And when I used to work for the Canadian Federal Government - BB's were also being phased out. One thing to remember is the public sector is slow in adapting new technologies but change is happening as new public sector employees are more vocal in wanting to use their own devices and not a bb.12-06-15 07:52 PMLike 0
- My friend works for TD Waterhouse as a financial advisor; he uses a galaxy S5 with Good for his phone.
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- Superfly_FRRetired ModeratorAFAIK, rumored Vienna (that's all, a rumor - specs wise) will be a PKB device.
Unlike the Priv (slider with choice P/SW) it would more likely handle the KB like the Passport i.e : no SW KB.12-07-15 02:30 AMLike 0
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