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  1. djdragon's Avatar
    Those who keep crying about Flash being ditched should be a bit leary of Flash all together. There's other reasons why BlackBerry dropped Flash support other than licensing. It's called security.

    http://arstechnica.com/security/2014...ld-porn-sites/

    Z10 10.3.1.1133 via CB10
    02-06-15 12:39 PM
  2. highos's Avatar
    Yes they 100% dropped flash

    Posted via CB10
    They didn't drop support for Flash - They just made it default to HTML5 if available instead of always using Flash.
    02-06-15 12:40 PM
  3. mh1983's Avatar
    They didn't drop support for Flash - They just made it default to HTML5 if available instead of always using Flash.
    Exactly. In Chrome, Youtube defaults to HTML5; in another browser like Opera, Flash.
    02-06-15 12:47 PM
  4. dvarnai's Avatar
    Those who keep crying about Flash being ditched should be a bit leary of Flash all together. There's other reasons why BlackBerry dropped Flash support other than licensing. It's called security.

    http://arstechnica.com/security/2014...ld-porn-sites/

    Z10 10.3.1.1133 via CB10
    You know BlackBerry had full source of flash and they have been patching flaws themselves. It's not like they were using several years old flash binaries...

    BlackBerry Q10 SQN100-3
    02-06-15 01:42 PM
  5. vbdwork's Avatar
    True but Blackberry was supporting mobile flash on their own and were developing and patching it for bb10 devices. Thats why BB10 has had flash support up until now.
    Adobe Flash is a proprietary product. BlackBerry never had any development nor support on Flash. The version that was included in BB10 Browser was actually last available from Adobe.
    02-06-15 02:17 PM
  6. Bigbacala's Avatar
    Well how am I going to watch live sports steaming of hockey and soccer now. This is one of the reasons I stuck with Blackberry so long ago was the advantage of using flash. Even the NHL official sites are still using flash.

    Posted via CB10
    02-06-15 03:03 PM
  7. MobileMadness002's Avatar
    Well how am I going to watch live sports steaming of hockey and soccer now. This is one of the reasons I stuck with Blackberry so long ago was the advantage of using flash. Even the NHL official sites are still using flash.

    Posted via CB10
    Call me mean, but not our concern. Try searching for a flash capable browser, either in bbaw or an android browser. You might get lucky


    Posted via CB10
    02-06-15 03:07 PM
  8. chaosdivine's Avatar
    Well how am I going to watch live sports steaming of hockey and soccer now. This is one of the reasons I stuck with Blackberry so long ago was the advantage of using flash. Even the NHL official sites are still using flash.

    Posted via CB10
    Write them and tell them to get with the times and embrace HTML5 video. Start a twitter/facebook campaign towards slow dinosaur websites like this and get millions of followers to bring about change...get on that eh? Thanks!
    02-06-15 03:40 PM
  9. DaedalusIcarusHelios's Avatar
    Adobe Flash is a proprietary product. BlackBerry never had any development nor support on Flash. The version that was included in BB10 Browser was actually last available from Adobe.
    I'm pretty sure BB was licensing access to the source code, which allowed them to not only include Flash but to make updates and such. I'm sure the cost of licensing and supporting flash through development means was decided to not be forth it, especially when BB is trying to cut costs. Being the only platform left with Flash did not translate to more sales, and apps using AIR didn't perform very well anyway (which I think was part of the licensing deal).
    02-06-15 04:27 PM
  10. mh1983's Avatar
    Dolphin Browser (Android).
    02-06-15 04:50 PM
  11. Ment's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure BB was licensing access to the source code, which allowed them to not only include Flash but to make updates and such. I'm sure the cost of licensing and supporting flash through development means was decided to not be forth it, especially when BB is trying to cut costs. Being the only platform left with Flash did not translate to more sales, and apps using AIR didn't perform very well anyway (which I think was part of the licensing deal).
    How often was the browser actually updated tho. Seems like a week doesn't go by that you get a desktop notification that Flash needed to be updated because of a security hole.
    02-06-15 04:53 PM
  12. yamahammer's Avatar
    I tested Photon browser for 15 minutes last night, sure it allowed Flash streaming but also ate 10% of my battery. Delete....

    Z10 STL 100-3 OS 10.3.1.2072
    02-06-15 08:44 PM
  13. MobileMadness002's Avatar
    I tested Photon browser for 15 minutes last night, sure it allowed Flash streaming but also ate 10% of my battery. Delete....

    Z10 STL 100-3 OS 10.3.1.2072
    At least it worked, so there should be less whining here in the forums.
    02-06-15 08:47 PM
  14. thurask's Avatar
    ...sure it allowed Flash streaming but also ate 10% of my battery.
    That means Flash is working.

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    deiop likes this.
    02-06-15 08:48 PM
  15. leglace1's Avatar
    Well how am I going to watch live sports steaming of hockey and soccer now. This is one of the reasons I stuck with Blackberry so long ago was the advantage of using flash. Even the NHL official sites are still using flash.

    Posted via CB10
    Browser 10 in BlackBerry World.

    Posted via CB10
    02-06-15 09:10 PM
  16. SnoozerBold's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure BB was licensing access to the source code, which allowed them to not only include Flash but to make updates and such. I'm sure the cost of licensing and supporting flash through development means was decided to not be forth it, especially when BB is trying to cut costs. Being the only platform left with Flash did not translate to more sales, and apps using AIR didn't perform very well anyway (which I think was part of the licensing deal).
    Thank you. That's what I was trying to say but you said it a lot better than I did.

    Posted via CB10
    02-07-15 07:08 AM
  17. Elephant_Canyon's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure BB was licensing access to the source code, which allowed them to not only include Flash but to make updates and such. I'm sure the cost of licensing and supporting flash through development means was decided to not be forth it, especially when BB is trying to cut costs. Being the only platform left with Flash did not translate to more sales, and apps using AIR didn't perform very well anyway (which I think was part of the licensing deal).
    Got any evidence for that claim?
    02-07-15 07:18 AM
  18. MobileMadness002's Avatar
    Got any evidence for that claim?
    Evidence or not, BlackBerry has already stated that they are going to and have already removed Flash support. If you need Flash support, you will be required to find a third party browser that supports it.
    02-07-15 08:12 AM
  19. Baconwich's Avatar
    Evidence or not, BlackBerry has already stated that they are going to and have already removed Flash support. If you need Flash support, you will be required to find a third party browser that supports it.
    Which is perfectly fine. You can still use Flash if you want to, and it leaves the security risk out of BlackBerry's hands.
    02-07-15 11:10 AM
  20. Raestloz's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure BB was licensing access to the source code, which allowed them to not only include Flash but to make updates and such. I'm sure the cost of licensing and supporting flash through development means was decided to not be forth it, especially when BB is trying to cut costs. Being the only platform left with Flash did not translate to more sales, and apps using AIR didn't perform very well anyway (which I think was part of the licensing deal).
    This is what I believe happened. Considering that content providers generally don't use Flash, I'm sure BlackBerry is also confident that losing Flash is not a huge problem.

    Adobe had decided to no longer develop Flash on mobile, any security problems will be on BlackBerry's lap to fix, I'm sure they don't want to bother with that

    Z10 STL100-1/10.2.1.3442
    02-07-15 11:27 AM
  21. niumxp's Avatar
    It's the one at the top for $1.99. It's pretty good. It's an android port of course, but it works great. It handles flash sites like a champ.

    Posted via CB10
    I paid and installed it but flash not working.
    Any special setting or add-on ?


    Posted via my Z10
    02-07-15 03:33 PM
  22. Richard Buckley's Avatar
    Got any evidence for that claim?
    It was announced at Dev World in San Francisco when they announced BlackBerry OS 10 as BBX that they had been submitting fixes back to Adobe for Air and Flash. As an attendee I left there with a PlayBook and a licence for Adobe's Air development licence. At the time Air was going to be of of the main development options for Tablet OS and BlackBerry 10.

    Anyway, like a lot of things that have to do with BlackBerry, then as now, you have to pay attention to what little official information is released, not the speculation.

    As to why they dropped Adobe support. I speculate that is was financial constraints. License fees are part of that. But it also has to have been a drag on their development teams trying to keep BlackBerry secure and support Adobe code. But as I already said, don't pay attention to speculation, it is too often wrong.

    Z10STL100-3/10.3.1.2072
    02-07-15 03:50 PM
  23. leglace1's Avatar
    I paid and installed it but flash not working.
    Any special setting or add-on ?


    Posted via my Z10
    Make sure the user agent is browser settings is set to BlackBerry. It works on flash games as well. It should have came with that set as the default.

    Posted via CB10
    02-08-15 12:26 PM
  24. niumxp's Avatar
    Make sure the user agent is browser settings is set to BlackBerry. It works on flash games as well. It should have came with that set as the default.

    Posted via CB10
    I try rojadirecta ,bfmtv,...Nothing is working.

    And when I go to http://isflashinstalled.com/ .the result is Nope.
    Do you have a different result ?
    What's your browser10 version ?


    Posted via my Z10
    02-08-15 01:04 PM
  25. benbraun322's Avatar
    Just wondering why BlackBerry isn't supporting Flash in the browser anymore. If a flash browser of minimal size can be installed and work on a BlackBerry, why can't it be native?

    Would supporting flash negate what BlackBerry is currently supporting?

    I know flash is on the way out, but why not support it until it's completely dead. Don't know much about compatibility so just interested for the reasoning.

    Thanks!

    Posted via CB10
    It's not about the simplicity of it.

    BlackBerry has to pay Adobe millions of dollars in licensing fees to be legally allowed to include flash in their devices.

     BlackBerry Z30 Chenpion 
    02-08-15 01:52 PM
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