04-12-16 01:59 PM
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  1. 1khalid's Avatar
    I'll probably just get another BB10 device to use when this z30 stops working. I was leaning towards Apple but it's seems to be way too restricted to do even simple things without having to use a different app for everything. Just attaching multiple files with different formats into a single email which indo all the time seems like a chore.
    And forget Android, although much easier to do certain tasks and having a decent file manager I absolutely don't want Google to be spying on me and selling info on me to advertisers. They are too intrusive. No thanks.

    So for a person running a small business there doesn't seem to be a choice except for BB10. I'll wait for the MS Surface phone to come out by 2017-18 before I buy a Windows10 phone.

    Forget sailfish or any os.

    Sent from my battered and bruised but still kicking (just barely) Z30.
    04-10-16 10:18 AM
  2. joeldf's Avatar
    Just note that there is some speculation that Microsoft may be abandoning the idea of a Surface phone. Sticking, instead, with just the tablet.

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    04-10-16 10:58 AM
  3. Traxxmy's Avatar
    You got a sickness called paranoia

    Symbian is still and always my favourite Os. Nokia 808. FilePLAY Music Player
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    04-10-16 11:01 AM
  4. kvndoom's Avatar
    I'll probably just get another BB10 device to use when this z30 stops working. I was leaning towards Apple but it's seems to be way too restricted to do even simple things without having to use a different app for everything. Just attaching multiple files with different formats into a single email which indo all the time seems like a chore.
    And forget Android, although much easier to do certain tasks and having a decent file manager I absolutely don't want Google to be spying on me and selling info on me to advertisers. They are too intrusive. No thanks.

    So for a person running a small business there doesn't seem to be a choice except for BB10. I'll wait for the MS Surface phone to come out by 2017-18 before I buy a Windows10 phone.

    Forget sailfish or any os.

    Sent from my battered and bruised but still kicking (just barely) Z30.
    You think Windows 10 isn't data mining you? Really? I guess you hate google so much that you haven't bothered to do a search on Microsoft data collection. Hah.

    Apple cares more about your privacy than the new Microsoft does. But go on believing what you choose.
    04-10-16 11:02 AM
  5. ZeBB45's Avatar
    You think Windows 10 isn't data mining you? Really? I guess you hate google so much that you haven't bothered to do a search on Microsoft data collection. Hah.

    Apple cares more about your privacy than the new Microsoft does. But go on believing what you choose.
    I'm of the belief that you cannot trust anyone these days in the privacy sense. Also, it's not just smart phones as your isp captures all of your Internet activity (encrypted VPN can prevent this). When you sign up on Facebook or other sites they're collecting data from you with every action on there. In short, the only way of completely securing your privacy is to disconnect from the Internet completely.

    I'm happy to get an android phone knowing that they're going to spy on me because I'd rather give up my privacy and enjoy the use of the Internet and it's various services. Not saying I'm happy about being privacy raped left,right and centre.

    Q10 - 10.3.2.2876/SR .2836  < α∂∂ιт > 
    04-10-16 11:56 AM
  6. Jerry A's Avatar
    I'm of the belief that you cannot trust anyone these days in the privacy sense. Also, it's not just smart phones as your isp captures all of your Internet activity (encrypted VPN can prevent this). When you sign up on Facebook or other sites they're collecting data from you with every action on there. In short, the only way of completely securing your privacy is to disconnect from the Internet completely.

    I'm happy to get an android phone knowing that they're going to spy on me because I'd rather give up my privacy and enjoy the use of the Internet and it's various services. Not saying I'm happy about being privacy raped left,right and centre.

    Q10 - 10.3.2.2876/SR .2836  < α∂∂ιт > 
    And remember, Google isn't even selling your data. They're selling an advertising profile. Your telecom vendor is selling all your data.

    Along with every website you visit, socially-connected app you use, email that passes outside your boundary, Flash content you play, etc, etc, etc.

    And let's not forget all the info folks have about you in their phones. Can't keep them from sharing that or having it mined.

    And BlackBerry too. They share the information they collect.

    Whut?!? I guess you didn't read that pesky TOS carefully enough.

    Seriously, singling out one company is an exercise in futility and dangerous because you don't understand the scope of the issue.

    A false sense of privacy equals no privacy.
    04-10-16 12:04 PM
  7. 1khalid's Avatar
    So I guess everyone here is just ready to bend over and take it from Google?!?! Must be Priv users who replied.


    Sent from my battered and bruised but still kicking (just barely) Z30.
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    04-10-16 02:59 PM
  8. Jerry A's Avatar
    So I guess everyone here is just ready to bend over and take it from Google?!?! Must be Priv users who replied.


    Sent from my battered and bruised but still kicking (just barely) Z30.
    Nah, it's just that they're not so eager to vilify one company that they're willing to make excuses for the rest.
    04-10-16 03:54 PM
  9. anon(6038817)'s Avatar
    Windows 10 absolutely does mine your data for targeted ads and serves ads, as well. If that weren't the case, why is there an option to opt-out of being assigned a unique advertising ID? And why would they aggressively promote (force) it as a free "upgrade" if there wasn't some other way for them to recoup that revenue?
    04-10-16 04:43 PM
  10. markmall's Avatar
    Targeted ads don't bother so much as not knowing if my name is attached to their data, whether they will ever sell it, how well is it secured etc.

    It is a disgrace that our federal government does nothing to protect our privacy against these companies.

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    04-10-16 09:44 PM
  11. joeldf's Avatar
    So I guess everyone here is just ready to bend over and take it from Google?!?! Must be Priv users who replied.


    Sent from my battered and bruised but still kicking (just barely) Z30.
    I actually don't have one - still on my Z10.

    But I'm still considering a Priv. That's why I hang out here. Either that or an HTC One A9.

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    04-10-16 11:52 PM
  12. DreadPirateRegan's Avatar
    I'll probably just get another BB10 device to use when this z30 stops working. I was leaning towards Apple but it's seems to be way too restricted to do even simple things without having to use a different app for everything. Just attaching multiple files with different formats into a single email which indo all the time seems like a chore.
    And forget Android, although much easier to do certain tasks and having a decent file manager I absolutely don't want Google to be spying on me and selling info on me to advertisers. They are too intrusive. No thanks.

    So for a person running a small business there doesn't seem to be a choice except for BB10. I'll wait for the MS Surface phone to come out by 2017-18 before I buy a Windows10 phone.

    Forget sailfish or any os.

    Sent from my battered and bruised but still kicking (just barely) Z30.
    Passport SE!...

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    04-11-16 12:48 AM
  13. DreadPirateRegan's Avatar
    I'm of the belief that you cannot trust anyone these days in the privacy sense. Also, it's not just smart phones as your isp captures all of your Internet activity (encrypted VPN can prevent this). When you sign up on Facebook or other sites they're collecting data from you with every action on there. In short, the only way of completely securing your privacy is to disconnect from the Internet completely.

    I'm happy to get an android phone knowing that they're going to spy on me because I'd rather give up my privacy and enjoy the use of the Internet and it's various services. Not saying I'm happy about being privacy raped left,right and centre.

    Q10 - 10.3.2.2876/SR .2836  < α∂∂ιт > 
    My thought is they know us BlackBerry users are ultra rare higher intelligent Beings thus are getting the FEMA camps ready for us in the New World Order!.... it's true!....

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    04-11-16 12:50 AM
  14. bakron1's Avatar
    I'll probably just get another BB10 device to use when this z30 stops working. I was leaning towards Apple but it's seems to be way too restricted to do even simple things without having to use a different app for everything. Just attaching multiple files with different formats into a single email which indo all the time seems like a chore.
    And forget Android, although much easier to do certain tasks and having a decent file manager I absolutely don't want Google to be spying on me and selling info on me to advertisers. They are too intrusive. No thanks.

    So for a person running a small business there doesn't seem to be a choice except for BB10. I'll wait for the MS Surface phone to come out by 2017-18 before I buy a Windows10 phone.

    Forget sailfish or any os.

    Sent from my battered and bruised but still kicking (just barely) Z30.
    All companies mine data in one way or another, they use it to find out how folks use their devices, the internet and for marketing purposes, if you are that worried about someone spying on your data, I suggest you stay off the grid.
    04-11-16 08:34 AM
  15. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    All companies mine data in one way or another, they use it to find out how folks use their devices, the internet and for marketing purposes, if you are that worried about someone spying on your data, I suggest you stay off the grid.
    And sometimes it just so your device works more efficiently, so that it can anticipate what you are looking for.

    The key is can you turn off these "features", both in the OS and for individual apps...
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    04-11-16 08:47 AM
  16. KemKev's Avatar
    Isn't complete privacy on the internet something of an illusion?
    04-11-16 11:09 AM
  17. Just TM's Avatar
    Isn't complete privacy on the internet something of an illusion?
    Control is the ultimate illusion.
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    04-11-16 02:08 PM
  18. azdesertrose77's Avatar
    I don't understand why people think that Blackberry and Blackberry 10 will not be here tomorrow. It's just strange. All the odd, negativity and ...fear? Is it the age we live in? lol Is it standard of BB users (I'm new to the party. I LOVE my new white/gold Q10)? They won't pull the plug on it tomorrow and all app access will cease. It's just odd. hello? I still have my HP/Palm Pre 2 and I adored WebOS. It was the best at the time. Now, i've found BB10! I don't want anything else. Excited for the update. I still can use my Palm Pre 2 and it has apps (paid and homebrew) and they've closed up shop (includ support after about 2yrs when it was announced) and I can still used it to get to facebook. What's all the panic about. Not an iOS fan (but an apple macbook fan). Not impressed with Android although, I always want it in tablet form. Anyway, what gives? Long live Blackberry! Come on, where's all the positive people!?
    04-11-16 03:57 PM
  19. DreadPirateRegan's Avatar
    Anyway, what gives? Long live Blackberry! Come on, where's all the positive people!?
    Right here!

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    04-11-16 04:00 PM
  20. The_Passporter's Avatar
    Right here!

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    Yup.... that's the one! Lol

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    04-11-16 05:38 PM
  21. albertinik's Avatar
    You're speaking like this because you're a BlackBerry fanboy!

    Have you ever tried the return reicept of mail or the delivery notification?

    The precision of mouse and most of all the IOS copy and paste adventure?!

    Lmao

    I'll probably just get another BB10 device to use when this z30 stops working. I was leaning towards Apple but it's seems to be way too restricted to do even simple things without having to use a different app for everything. Just attaching multiple files with different formats into a single email which indo all the time seems like a chore.
    And forget Android, although much easier to do certain tasks and having a decent file manager I absolutely don't want Google to be spying on me and selling info on me to advertisers. They are too intrusive. No thanks.

    So for a person running a small business there doesn't seem to be a choice except for BB10. I'll wait for the MS Surface phone to come out by 2017-18 before I buy a Windows10 phone.

    Forget sailfish or any os.

    Sent from my battered and bruised but still kicking (just barely) Z30.


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    04-11-16 08:23 PM
  22. Carjackd's Avatar
    You think Windows 10 isn't data mining you? Really? I guess you hate google so much that you haven't bothered to do a search on Microsoft data collection. Hah.

    Apple cares more about your privacy than the new Microsoft does. But go on believing what you choose.
    Well, I guess I don't need to respond here *Plus 1*
    04-12-16 12:37 AM
  23. DreadPirateRegan's Avatar
    Yup.... that's the one! Lol

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    I take that as a huge compliment, why thank you.

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    04-12-16 01:32 AM
  24. DreadPirateRegan's Avatar
    You're speaking like this because you're a BlackBerry fanboy!

    Have you ever tried the return reicept of mail or the delivery notification?

    The precision of mouse and most of all the IOS copy and paste adventure?!

    Lmao





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    I would take that as a compliment as well, proud "BlackBerry Fanboy" tried the rest, stick with the best!...

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    04-12-16 01:35 AM
  25. NaimNut's Avatar
    I switched to iOS back in October and I won't be looking back.
    With Apps like Outlook and Todoist my iP6s is awesome for my business needs.
    04-12-16 02:41 AM
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