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  1. FoxxBerry's Avatar
    Why would it be worth it?
    11-09-13 06:25 AM
  2. Alexandra Barrable's Avatar
    IF this happens to come to fruition, it would be good wait and see but I'm not holding my breath lol

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    This ^. It'd be great, but I kind of doubt it, sadly. x
    11-09-13 06:37 AM
  3. FunktasticLucky's Avatar
    Yeah. I remember the rumors popping up that BlackBerry was working on a way to install apk's directly or not having to side load bars. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that we aren't getting Google play store but the ability to install directly to the device. Perhaps through the file manager. That would be a welcomed addition.

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    11-09-13 06:57 AM
  4. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    Just reposting my thought from another thread:

    What amazes me is that why didn't Blackberry just ask Google permissions for the PlayStore API, and utilize it to download an Android version of the app inside their Blackberry World (if they don't have a native app version for what ever app user wants to find). That way, they can totally make the reviews for the BB10 and Google Playstore separate. Come on, they can already redirect play store links into the BBW, why not go an extra mile? at least target the ones that are free first (if they worry about the dev revenue distribution).

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    Read the whole thread, paying particular attention to those posts explaining why this isn't possible.

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    11-09-13 06:57 AM
  5. anon(4044683)'s Avatar
    Eric Schmidt helped. Blackberry fan
    I thought Eric uses a BB for security purposes, is he really a BB fan? It would be great if he is and intents to help BlackBerry. But at the end of the day BlackBerry is competing against his own company. Interesting scenario.
    11-09-13 07:20 AM
  6. anon(4044683)'s Avatar
    Whats wrong with Z10? will Playstore work properly with Z10? Thanks.

    I'd recommend getting a Z30 instead, selling your Z10 and waiting for this to drop!

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    11-09-13 07:46 AM
  7. Guyzer's Avatar
    I love this idea. Can't believe BlackBerry never thought of it before. Maybe under the new leadership it will happen sooner than later.

    P.s. It's kinda funny I never met a professional troll before. I won't mention who it is but as evidenced by his thread count and lack of being a moderator I think we all know who it is

    This is mildly entertaining
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    11-09-13 08:17 AM
  8. Anonymous2039's Avatar
    I love this idea. Can't believe BlackBerry never thought of it before. Maybe under the new leadership it will happen sooner than later.

    P.s. It's kinda funny I never met a professional troll before. I won't mention who it is but as evidenced by his thread count and lack of being a moderator I think we all know who it is

    This is mildly entertaining
    If you're talking about CJH_, I can tell you that he is not a "professional troll". He's not even a troll. I personally agree with his take of the story.

    Q10 and Canadian all the way! Q10SQN100-3/10.2.0.1791
    11-09-13 08:24 AM
  9. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    I love this idea. Can't believe BlackBerry never thought of it before. Maybe under the new leadership it will happen sooner than later.

    P.s. It's kinda funny I never met a professional troll before. I won't mention who it is but as evidenced by his thread count and lack of being a moderator I think we all know who it is

    This is mildly entertaining
    Since when did providing information backed up by facts become 'professional trolling'?

    By your reckoning, everyone on CrackBerry who has a post count equal to or higher than mine is also a troll.
    I like your logic.

    If you actually read the whole thread, you'd see there are other posters who have disproved CatlinFD.

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    11-09-13 08:31 AM
  10. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    If you're talking about CJH_, I can tell you that he is not a "professional troll". He's not even a troll. I personally agree with his take of the story.

    Q10 and Canadian all the way! Q10SQN100-3/10.2.0.1791
    Thanks, Chaz.
    Though I'm not the only one who has disproved CatlinFD.

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    11-09-13 08:31 AM
  11. NickMcBride's Avatar
    You realise that the changes you are referring to would be to actually have a full Android OS running in a virtual machine on our BB10 phones rather than just the Dalvik layer VM we have now?

    No small change and the consequences for BlackBerry 10 native developers would be catastrophic.

    Blackberry may as well just throw in the BB10 towel and make Android phones instead.

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    Agreed! I highly hope this doesn't happen! BlackBerry devs are much better than android ones! I'm happy to keep paying for apps because their QUALITY and then many other are still free too so BlackBerry world has the best of both worlds!

    Posted via CB10 on my ? Blackberry Q10!
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    11-09-13 08:41 AM
  12. aha's Avatar
    Unfortunately, I'm afraid it is nothing. He has no evidence to back up this long statement. That's all it is -- a statement with nothing to support it.
    Thanks for letting me know. But he was just sharing something he found. Will it eventually happen or not is irrelevant.

    I do hope it happens. You think it's unlikely, he think it's coming. Does the difference matter? Just wait for 10.2.1, right?
    11-09-13 08:42 AM
  13. jonty12's Avatar
    I hate to be the one to point out the obvious, but do people realize that companies can join the OHA? Also, the member list hasn't been updated on the site since early 2012 or longer than that (it lists SonyEricsson as a member - a company that hasn't existed since Feb2012, and it doesn't list Sony Mobile). So relying an old list with a membership that can change is not the most reliable way to build an argument.
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    11-09-13 08:56 AM
  14. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    Agreed! I highly hope this doesn't happen! BlackBerry devs are much better than android ones! I'm happy to keep paying for apps because their QUALITY and then many other are still free too so BlackBerry world has the best of both worlds!

    Posted via CB10 on my ? Blackberry Q10!
    Android may be switching from the Dalvik VM.

    http://readwrite.com/2013/11/07/how-...omCv146yNzSu1g

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    11-09-13 09:05 AM
  15. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    Thanks for letting me know. But he was just sharing something he found. Will it eventually happen or not is irrelevant.

    I do hope it happens. You think it's unlikely, he think it's coming. Does the difference matter? Just wait for 10.2.1, right?
    Anilu never said she thinks it's unlikely, she said Catlin has no evidence to back up his claims.

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    11-09-13 09:06 AM
  16. m1kr0's Avatar
    This thread had more than 25 000 views over the past days. Some posters say it's impossible, simply not workable and won't/can't happen. Some posters are adamant it is a done deal and just a matter of time. What's absent in here is the participation of CrackBerry staff. Do you guys know something and can't talk, or is this simply too far fetched that a response is not even warranted. I know that you don't respond to each and every post but for something of this magnitude, it's perhaps warranted.
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    11-09-13 09:11 AM
  17. Anonymous2039's Avatar
    Android may be switching from the Dalvik VM.

    http://readwrite.com/2013/11/07/how-...omCv146yNzSu1g

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    That won't change the BB10 Android runtime's ability to run applications though. Maybe in the future.

    Q10 and Canadian all the way! Q10SQN100-3/10.2.0.1791
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    11-09-13 09:11 AM
  18. Whyareallthegoodnamestaken's Avatar
    I thought Eric uses a BB for security purposes, is he really a BB fan? It would be great if he is and intents to help BlackBerry. But at the end of the day BlackBerry is competing against his own company. Interesting scenario.
    They're not really competitors. Google doesn't make phones, They're more interested in using Android as a vehicle for their real business (data mining and advertising) as evidenced by their iOS apps. Plus BlackBerry just doesn't have the market share to worry Google.

    I seriously doubt Google considers BlackBerry as a competitor as much as it's sad to say.

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    11-09-13 09:11 AM
  19. FRG_RC's Avatar
    Android may be switching from the Dalvik VM.

    How Google May Be Planning To Make Android Apps Faster With ART – ReadWrite

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    In the next version of android, which is irrelevant to this discussion because if it is, and I'm not saying is true, a done deal Google would provide an updated runtime to BlackBerry too, so it doesn't matter.
    11-09-13 09:14 AM
  20. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    That won't change the BB10 Android runtime's ability to run applications though. Maybe in the future.

    Q10 and Canadian all the way! Q10SQN100-3/10.2.0.1791
    It will. Let me explain why. Currently in order to run, apps use the Dalvik VM; if Google change the run time then all Android apps will have to be recompiled to run under ART.

    Now, BB10 uses a Dalvik VM 'runtime', suppose you sideload an apk of Google Maps that's written to run under Dalvik and then Google updates Maps to only run under Art, any newer versions simply won't run on BB10 as that's using Dalvik.
    Therefore, BB10 would have to recompile BB10 to be compatible with ART.

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    11-09-13 09:20 AM
  21. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    In the next version of android, which is irrelevant to this discussion because if it is, and I'm not saying is true, a done deal Google would provide an updated runtime to BlackBerry too, so it doesn't matter.
    BlackBerry would still need to recompile BB10 to be compatible with the new runtime.

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    11-09-13 09:21 AM
  22. FRG_RC's Avatar
    BlackBerry would still need to recompile BB10 to be compatible with the new runtime.

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    When that happens, it could be BlackBerry OS 10.3 or whatever... My point is that as of now it doesn't matter, and is irrelevant to this discussion which is on the basis of deal cut between Google and BlackBerry to allow such a thing, which should have take into account Google's plans of updating the runtime which aren't exactly a secret.

    I don't know why that would be a point to prove the deal is "fantasy" or that it could never be true.
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    11-09-13 09:25 AM
  23. Asmooh's Avatar
    Didn't people say we get BlackBerry 10 on Playbook? They had good sources and inside information and whatever

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    11-09-13 09:51 AM
  24. leejayh's Avatar
    Regardless of what happens in the future with ART, the fact also is, that when Google makes that change, they will have to accommodate all of the existing phones out there as well. I imagine that it will be a long change process.

    What is true, is that nearly any Android app i want to run - already works on 10.2.1 runtime. Not everything (i.e. as discussed, come that rely on Google services, widgets, etc do not), but the vast majority do. Given that, I could imagine that Google could work many types of deals with BB for 1. Search engine preference for years 2. Ad revenue from apps 3: Google wallet, etc. There is no end to what Google could extract from BB in order for BB to get a deal that it needs.

    Meaning - anything is possible for the right deal. And, remember, Google does not monetize the Android OS anyway. What they monetize is App sales, and advertizing. If the business model holds, why would they not?

    I am not saying that I believe that there is a deal - but lets not kidd ourselves. Money makes the world go around, and Google is the king of the alternative monetization model. And unfortunately, BB is playing from a weak position. I can easily see a deal that would allow this. The question is what else comes with it....
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    11-09-13 09:58 AM
  25. lawguyman's Avatar
    Pictures are too easily faked. Post a video. It is harder to fake. No excuses. If you can take pics, you can shoot video.

    This is not impossible technically, but it seems really unlikely because of politics.

    Everyone is just hoping against hope that Blackberry hits one out of the park. So do I but we have to be realistic.
    11-09-13 10:03 AM
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