Cascades!!
I am pretty sure BlackBerry will be developing more and more tools over the years that won't be available on Android.
BlackBerry Bold 9900; Q10; Z10 [BBM#6]
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Cascades!!
I am pretty sure BlackBerry will be developing more and more tools over the years that won't be available on Android.
BlackBerry Bold 9900; Q10; Z10 [BBM#6]
Ugh, this thread should be used for a course on debate techniques ("how not to"). I can not believe how many people still think personal attacks, patronising behaviour and 'facts' without a proper source are the best way to win an argument.
Then again, this is the internet...
BlackBerry 10 signed.
I hope this pans out, you guys can start your own thread and discuss security till the cows come home. In my limited experience with friends and relatives with larger companies, company phones are just that. Not to be used for much personal stuff and put away if on holidays. Getting the Google play store option would be great! Simple security disclaimer when downloading it would be sufficient to warn most people. Again, this is only my opinion but there will be lots of opportunity over the cong years to sell handsets as renewals come up but it is a falling margin game. If ecosystem is king and BlackBerry is heading towards being a software company, I would prefer a phone that gives me access to 2 ecosystems versus one. Oh and by the way, when Steve Jobs was running Next. Computers, they were all over platform emulation as a way to try and gain sales. Apple may have a walled garden and this type of closed system will run its course at some point and there will be a backlash. Just as we are starting to see a backlash against Facebook, Google heavy-handed play with YouTube and google+ is starting to tick people off. BBM with. A secure, non info. Sharing messaging system does have potential once the general population realizes how much info Google accumulates on each of us on a daily basis. There will be big changes over the years and just cause someone is king now doesn't mean they will be so in 5 or 10 years.
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Android is sandboxed on BlackBerry 10. It therefore does not touch BlackBerry 10/QNX code and a BlackBerry 10 device hypothetically cannot be hacked through the Android system. Perhaps the Android components can be hacked, but anyone smart enough would only have their precious details on the core BlackBerry 10 apps anyway.
BlackBerry 10 itself, without BES10, is probably not secure enough for high-level security needs, BUT, it is more secure by itself than iOS and Android, just not as secure as BES10.
BlackBerry Bold 9900; Q10; Z10 [BBM#6]
thanks. You spared me a reply haha. True story.
BB10 supports gazillion languages especially with the Android sandbox integrated within QNX.
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Just want to say TAT is part of the Open Headset Alliance, which is owned and operated by BlackBerry.
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Again just want to say TAT is part of the OHA, and tat is a BlackBerry owned company. Not saying your wrong or right, just want to correct that statement.
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Despite being supposedly sandboxed android apps on bb10 are able to run when closed, hence battery drain with many. Even bb10 apps can't do this. The permissions are not modifiable. And most apps are got from non legit sources.
In short, the android apps are more potentially malicious on bb10 than android.
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Finally somebody clarifying how this is possible without setting a precedent.
I'm very aware of what you said. Been reading and comprehending for 30 years now. I'm pretty good at it btw.
But why would BlackBerry take the time to develop around Android, hell they have twice now built their own SECURE OS. On top of that they've found a way to implement the use of apps from another ecosystem. Your idea doesn't make sense for BlackBerry, and to give up what put them on the map is just ludicrous. Please keep in mind BIS is still being used for legacy devices, BB10 is being used in a completely different manner.
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You do realize installing the play store is a useless endeavor, you would still need to extract the apk you download, convert it to bar then sideload it, unless BlackBerry puts a built in apk to bar conversion process, I don't see this working.
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The whole point of this thread/rumour is that it would allow direct .apk installs, so it would eliminate the need for converting/side-loading...
If it is true, do you really think they would be so dumb that they would support Google Play, but not allow OTA installing?BlackBerry 10 signed.
If having a secure Os was all that mattered, bb7 had that accomplished.
They wanted a more consumer friendly device set, and need android apps for that as they can't get their own.
Bringing in apps from other systems negates most advantages security wise to the consumers, hopefully you understand that.
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Everyone! Stop bickering about security of BlackBerry vs. Android.
BES is clearly more secure. The fact that BlackBerry devices are not open and can't load customized roms makes it more secure, until they get hacked.
Android devices controlled and locked down can have nearly or the same security. That just requires more effort. The great aspect of BlackBerry is the BES and reputation.
Bringing Google Play to BlackBerry does not instantly open BlackBerry devices to malware and viruses. Especially for the high security customers. All they have to do is lock the device down and only allow certain apps and permissions. This would include blocking Google Play altogether, if needed. They already do this.
This will help with consumer and media perception that BlackBerry isn't worth looking at due to lack of apps. This doesn't really do much for DoD and similar except that company doesn't look like a sinking ship, which is huge when purchasing a platform.
The more consumers that have and enjoy their BlackBerry experience will help push BlackBerry back to business.
This is a win-win for BlackBerry and Google.
BlackBerry sells more devices and fixes their tarnished reputation.
Google sells more apps and gets their analytics and ads to more consumer users.
This hurts Windows Phone and could slight hurt iPhone (though that's a tough task).
Consumers (though they may not know it) like fresh new devices, but won't give up the apps and core functionality. I think if 10.2.1.xxxx comes out strong and fixes a majority of the issues with the OS and brings more apps it could become a whole new day for BlackBerry.
I'm a huge BlackBerry fan and love the BB10 OS, but have a hard time recommending the devices to most people. Most would hate me without easily accessing apps they have been accustomed to or just plain need (medical apps my wife needs). But with this I could now recommend them and I would. The OS is solid enough even at 10.2.0.xxxx to recommend. Just need more apps.
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@ SDTRMG, I reposted you here: http://forums.crackberry.com/general...98/index3.html
Ok so if tat is part of it then there's no legal problems
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It makes no difference if a company owned by BlackBerry are part of the OHA, BlackBerry are not and Google will not breach the rules of the OHA which they are keen to enforce.
This has been explained in earlier posts by at least two different people.
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Great! Apps can modify permissions of other Apps!
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In your mind nothing matters, but TAT is part of OHA, and activated on more then 140 million devices, and given that TAT is now BlackBerry Sweden, I'd assume the updated website would say BlackBerry Sweden. The OHA website hasn't been updated since early 2012 and is missing many members as of today.
So you also have no further proof or evidence that it is not true and it more likely is. I never came to the forum to get in a pointless argument, just to state what I have on a earlier post.
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Ahahhaah this was the joke of the day!
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Lucas At n4bb.com is reporting that his sources confirm what that OP has said. Your arguments are holding very little credibility
Google and BlackBerry are working together to make this as smooth as possible.
I trust that BlackBerry will have Google Play working smoothly.
BlackBerry Bold 9900; Q10; Z10 [BBM#6]
BlackBerry and Google are working together to implement the Play Store.
Nothing will need to be converted as they will be installed straight onto the sandboxed runtime.
BlackBerry Bold 9900; Q10; Z10 [BBM#6]
STFU already! I can't wait for this to come thru. I wonder what you'll say then
You should probably do some research before laughing
http://www.neowin.net/news/us-milita...se-by-soldiers
And there is more if you learn to search.
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