- In order to get Google Play on a device, it has to be an Android device and Google demands all their services be loaded on it. That means you'll get Play Music/TV & Videos/Books/Magazines, Gmail, Drive, Hangouts, Maps, Google Search, YouTube, and I think this also includes apps like Google Drive, Keep, and QuickOffice.
You can't just get "Play Store" and whatever apps you dream you personally need. Google Apps come as a package deal, ask Barnes and Noble.
Additionally, Google doesn't give play store access to devices like that. I doubt they would give Google Apps access to a completely different operating system just because they ported a runtime over to piggy back off of Android's ecosystem.
All this, while Google is pushing 4.4 for every new device and trying to combat the "fragmentation" issue.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Lastly, the BB10 runtime is still crippled compared to a full Android OS so there are still apps hat don't run properly on it. I doubt Google would put developers in the position of having to deal with supporting users on devices running a completely different OS, using an intentionally crippled android runtime which causes issues with their apps on those devices.11-08-13 10:53 AMLike 4 - Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry WizardI believe this is what people are getting excited about:
http://readwrite.com/2013/11/07/how-...omCv146yNzSu1g
My Channel: Geeks United C0012240811-08-13 10:53 AMLike 2 - Difference is with BB10 you can choose which ones you want or don't want, on google play it just tells you all the permissions, accept or reject, you can't choose which ones you want or don't want
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Anilu7 likes this.11-08-13 10:54 AMLike 1 - My take. This would be hugely beneficial. it is a B B device, with the breadth of Android in a sandbox. How is that bad.
When asked "why would anyone develop for BB10" - the answer (over time) will be to make a better app. Have you seen the igrann app beta 2? Pretty great, and well on it's way to be much much better. In fact, in my opinion, it will only be a short time where the igrann app is better than the instagram app for Bb10 users.
Why? native Bb10 functionality, sharing, the UX, etc. To a person who likes BB10 - igrann is superior to instagram. Developers will need to see the benefits of customization to a platform to get an advantage. Will they? - who knows. Alot of that also depends upon their business model - and what they attempt to monetize. I am sure that many will not bother. But, there will be those where is really matters and will make a difference.11-08-13 11:03 AMLike 3 - I could see BlackBerry improving their Android app compatibility much easier than I could see Google giving BlackBerry users direct Google Play access. In the end, I imagine it will be more of the same except with easier porting for Android developers and easier side loading for the pirates on BlackBerry 10.
Posted via CB1011-08-13 11:04 AMLike 0 - As long as the apps don't get root access, I think this is a good thing. However, if they're given root access, you might as well be running android because installing apps will have the capacity to introduce the same security issues and lack of stability that exists on those devices.
Posted via CB1011-08-13 11:34 AMLike 0 - UziRetired ModeratorI believe this is what people are getting excited about:
http://readwrite.com/2013/11/07/how-...omCv146yNzSu1g
My Channel: Geeks United C00122408
BlackBerry addict11-08-13 11:42 AMLike 0 -
Will this "kill" native development? Not among smart developers who see a market for their products. Among the cheap and dumb? Yep, but they should die; that's what a market does, allocate among the smart and the stupid.
This move makes the BB10 devices UNIQUE and DISTINCT among Android-capable devices.
And it should have been done a year ago.11-08-13 11:46 AMLike 0 - Subscribed. Don't have time right now to finish reading but this sounds interesting, although a bit odd.
Posted via CB1011-08-13 12:11 PMLike 0 - Interesting link, but I don't see how it truly correlates to the OP's thread. People are not getting excited about what Google has in its pipeline with ART. Care to elaborate?
I believe this is what people are getting excited about:
How Google May Be Planning To Make Android Apps Faster With ART – ReadWrite
My Channel: Geeks United C0012240811-08-13 12:22 PMLike 0 - this is what I want to believe;
With 10.2.1 we will see installable APK files rather than BAR. so basically we won't need all the conversion and problems; BB World can easily integrate with Google Play and download/run every single app available; except the ones that are natively available. They won't be included. All Android devs need to do will be opening a BB World account, and their app will be visible in BB World in 24 hours.
I believe in this because there MUST be a reason why they didn't sell the company and found $1B..angieberry10 and johnnyuk like this.11-08-13 12:28 PMLike 2 - Not exactly. With so many android developers it will be harder to get noticed in the google play store, where it would be much easier to be noticed in BB world. Get big on one platform then push out to others.11-08-13 12:28 PMLike 0
- kbz1960Doesn't MatterI believe this is what people are getting excited about:
How Google May Be Planning To Make Android Apps Faster With ART – ReadWrite
My Channel: Geeks United C0012240811-08-13 12:32 PMLike 0 - Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry WizardWorks for me. Must be you.
My Channel: Geeks United C00122408kbz1960 likes this.11-08-13 12:33 PMLike 1 -
Native apps are not being built fast enough for the BlackBerry App Ecosystem to catch up - plain & simple. The ones that are there, are great - and I've certainly contributed to their pocketbooks. They'll continue to stand out amongst Android ports - just as they do today. Differentiation is still there, despite having more competition - should Google Play actually surface on BB10.11-08-13 12:36 PMLike 0 - Android 4.3+ allows granular control over App permissions, so you are wrong there.BrizzadMan and R Field like this.11-08-13 12:36 PMLike 2
- I'm a little bit skeptical, but I could see Google agreeing to this. After all, it's just more money for Google from app purchases, while BlackBerry can (hopefully) move more handsets. However, they'd have to convince them that Android Player is up to snuff, and at least in 10.2.0, I don't think it is. Don't get me wrong, it's great and all, but look at Instagram as a prime example - commenting and video uploads are basically impossible. But hey, maybe they've made some crucial improvements in 10.2.1 - I haven't fiddled enough with the leaks we have to know.
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And this from an Apple fan site against how Apple is doing this.Anilu7 likes this.11-08-13 12:45 PMLike 1 - I agree that this is more likely, an easier way to run Android apps from outside of BBW than we have now. Maybe the ability to run the .apk files without converting to .bar files? Not that that would improve things much, you'd still have to get the .apk from somewhere just as most people just download a .bar from somewhere now and you'd still have to sideload I'd imagine - unless that can be changed so you can install from a local file on your device.
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If sailfish can do it, I'm sure there is no technical reasons that BlackBerry 10 couldn't also do it.11-08-13 12:51 PMLike 0 - I believe that is how Sailfish will work. Android apps won't need ported or converted. The Apps will just work as apk files. Now, I haven't investigated it that far, so I may be wrong, but I believe that is what they're doing.
If sailfish can do it, I'm sure there is no technical reasons that BlackBerry 10 couldn't also do it.
I don't see Google bending the rules for BlackBerry any time soon. So what we will end up with is all of the open source parts of Google, but we will be missing some of the proprietary API's that many apps need to run. People will be able to add their Android apps to BBW with minimal porting, but they will either have to be devoid of the Google suite API's or they will have to port the code to use BlackBerry API's instead.
If Google Play appeared on a Blackberry, it would blow my mind. But if they were somehow able to come to an agreement with Google on how the OS would run, it would be the best of both worlds. I still have and use my PlayBook, but recently upgraded to a Galaxy S4 from my 9930 (sniff.) just to get the latest thing. I really am hoping BlackBerry gets back on a sustainable path and that this rumor turns out to be true, because I need a gesture based OS, I need the hub, and I want that improved antenna of the z30, among other things.
Lets hope its true!Anilu7 likes this.11-08-13 01:15 PMLike 1 - Here's a question:
What would BlackBerry do about the apps on Google Play that don't work on the Dalvik VM even when unlocked?
How would they stop someone from downloading or worse buying something that just crashes because it uses something that isn't supported in the VM and then writing a bad review in Google Play and harassing the developers because they think it's the app's fault?
That's not going to impress Google Play's developers and pretty soon "BlackBerry 10 with Google Play" will be known as the platform where a Google Play app might run....or it might hurl up the contents of its binary stomach all over your phone's screen, it's like a lucky dip.
Hey! That's what they could call the BlackBerry version of Google Play.....Google Lucky Dip!
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