[WES51]

Since last Saturday (for 4 days) I'm BBID-less. I'm collecting experiences that I soon plan to share...

That's what I was told when looking for ways how to extract the Content Transfer.

So far I can say, that after restoring the phone with link (after turning off Blackberry Protect), the phone came back without BBID and WITH a previously installed and fully functional version of Content Transfer App (Media Mushroom). In other words the Content Transfer App did not get deleted, while all other not preinstalled apps did get deleted.

[Ben xfg]

Since last Saturday (for 4 days) I'm BBID-less. I'm collecting experiences that I soon plan to share...

So far I can say, that after restoring the phone with link (after turning off Blackberry Protect), the phone came back without BBID and WITH a previously installed and fully functional version of Content Transfer App (Media Mushroom). In other words the Content Transfer App did not get deleted, while all other not preinstalled apps did get deleted.

What are you looking to do with Content Transfer?

[WES51]

What are you looking to do with Content Transfer?

It works without BBID and my phone no has BBID. This is the only way that I currently found that backs up much of the phone.

So in my BBID-less case, it is good "insurance" for the very distant future for any possible device switch.

It may also serve as a current means of back up, although I still need to figure out how to get all the backed up stuff back onto BB10 (currently Content Transfer appears to work only one way, from BB10 to Android).

[bb_geezer]

Just got this email directly from Blackberry...
BlackBerry 10 OS devices will still work in 2020. You need to have a BlackBerry ID to download applications.

only they specifically said there will be no more BlackBerry World, so I wouldn't count on being able to download applications in 2020.

Yeah, that's rather strange. Hmmm.

@ksennette - perhaps you can reply to BB staff and ask them something like: "thanks, but download apps from where?"

Would love to see their answer.

[WES51]

Their answer has no longer any meaning!

[Ben xfg]

I still need to figure out how to get all the backed up stuff back onto BB10 (currently Content Transfer appears to work only one way, from BB10 to Android).

Yeah, that's what I was wondering about. You'll need an alternate way to get it back onto BB10, though it should be possible somehow.

[ksennette]

I have the Classic and the Passport. I just need them for basic phone, web browsing functions. I stopped using Blackberry World a long time ago.

[deltact]

Cool.... only they specifically said there will be no more BlackBerry World, so I wouldn't count on being able to download applications in 2020.

Devices should work... to some degree or another.

Hmmm, maybe I won't get kicked off in December. I just need to avoid wiping my phone, as there are a few apps from the corporate BB World that I need.

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[TrumpetTiger]

Just got this email directly from Blackberry
Hello,

Thank you for contacting BlackBerry.

BlackBerry 10 OS devices will still work in 2020. You need to have a BlackBerry ID to download applications.

Yet more evidence BB10 will live on direct from Blackberry Limited! Thanks for sharing ksennette!

Were I you, I would follow up on this to clarify their point about applications...as DDD says Blackberry World is specifically listed as shutting down, so I'd ask from where they suggest we download them. But either way, good work!

[Dunt Dunt Dunt]

Hmmm, maybe I won't get kicked off in December. I just need to avoid wiping my phone, as there are a few apps from the corporate BB World that I need.

Posted via CB10

If you really "need" something... not sure using BB10 is going to be a safe solution at that point. I'd be dual carrying with a "backup" if your job requires a smartphone...

[Dunt Dunt Dunt]

It works without BBID and my phone no has BBID. This is the only way that I currently found that backs up much of the phone.

So in my BBID-less case, it is good "insurance" for the very distant future for any possible device switch.

It may also serve as a current means of back up, although I still need to figure out how to get all the backed up stuff back onto BB10 (currently Content Transfer appears to work only one way, from BB10 to Android).

IF (still a big IF) BBID gets shutoff, and you then had to reload the OS for some reason... it won't be with LINK. Only option at that point is a Autoloader... does BB Content Transfer get installed that way?

[Dunt Dunt Dunt]

It works without BBID and my phone no has BBID. This is the only way that I currently found that backs up much of the phone.

So in my BBID-less case, it is good "insurance" for the very distant future for any possible device switch.

It may also serve as a current means of back up, although I still need to figure out how to get all the backed up stuff back onto BB10 (currently Content Transfer appears to work only one way, from BB10 to Android).

IF (still a big IF) BBID gets shutoff, and you then had to reload the OS for some reason... it won't be with LINK. Only option at that point is a Autoloader... does BB Content Transfer get installed that way?

[deltact]

If you really "need" something... not sure using BB10 is going to be a safe solution at that point. I'd be dual carrying with a "backup" if your job requires a smartphone...

One is a keygen for VPN 2FA and I'm sure this one exists in the Play Store. The other app is an Android port. So unless they shut down BES or make a change that breaks the connection with the corp email server all should be okay, no?

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[howarmat]

We have not heard anything at all about support with BES and BB10. I am assuming your BES admin has been informed though and would have all info needed since that is probably the plug has not already been pulled for BB10

[Dunt Dunt Dunt]

One is a keygen for VPN 2FA and I'm sure this one exists in the Play Store. The other app is an Android port. So unless they shut down BES or make a change that breaks the connection with the corp email server all should be okay, no?

Posted via CB10

As long as either will work on BB10's Runtime, you should be good.

But... BES, you'll need to check with your Administrator to see if BB10 will be supported by their UEM anymore. Some older levels of BES required carrier support for BB10, as well as BlackBerry's NOC, that's all part of the legacy BES that is EOL too.

I assume BlackBerry has communicated with the rebranded BlackBerry Unified Endpoint Manager administrators, on the compatibility of BB10 devices going forward. So check with IT...

[WES51]

IF (still a big IF) BBID gets shutoff, and you then had to reload the OS for some reason... it won't be with LINK. Only option at that point is a Autoloader... does BB Content Transfer get installed that way?

Well. It works without BBID to begin with. Which hopefully means that it might be extracted to use as bar file. Further I thought link has a function to restore the even a BBID-less phone. Lot's of things to try - I will try some time.

One thing is for sure. I won't BBID my phone any longer. I won't put myself in that kind of dependency.

I'm using 2x phones (which has pretty much became standard among business users). My other phone has all the application junk. Blackberry serves for eMail, text and most importantly as PDA to store personal data.

[Dunt Dunt Dunt]

Well. It works without BBID to begin with. Which hopefully means that it might be extracted to use as bar file. Further I thought link has a function to restore the even a BBID-less phone. Lot's of things to try - I will try some time.

One thing is for sure. I won't BBID my phone any longer. I won't put myself in that kind of dependency.

I'm using 2x phones (which has pretty much became standard among business users). My other phone has all the application junk. Blackberry serves for eMail, text and most importantly as PDA to store personal data.

Lot of hope for extracting bar files.... so far it hasn't been done.

I tried to use LINK on a PC with clean install of Windows... it wants a BBID. I think I could get past that point, but it wouldn't connect to my BBIDless Z10. Maybe you can get it to work, or maybe BBID just never goes away....

[WES51]

Lot of hope for extracting bar files.... so far it hasn't been done.

I tried to use LINK on a PC with clean install of Windows... it wants a BBID. I think I could get past that point, but it wouldn't connect to my BBIDless Z10. Maybe you can get it to work, or maybe BBID just never goes away....

Yes, it wants BBID to connect to the phone, but if I recall correctly there is still an option that says click here if you have problems with the phone. So I ASSUME that may send out a reset signal.

I know just assumption, like I said I need to try. I will do when I have more time on the weekend.

[Dunt Dunt Dunt]

Yes, it wants BBID to connect to the phone, but if I recall correctly there is still an option that says click here if you have problems with the phone. So I ASSUME that may send out a reset signal.

I know just assumption, like I said I need to try. I will do when I have more time on the weekend.

BBID is security.... BlackBerry was BIG on security.... security is great when a product is active, no so great when it's EOL.

But again... BBID might stay up, BlackBerry might patch things to make things work without it - have to be a big security declaimer, so I doubt that.

[WES51]

Wouldn't anyone have to use old (and forgotten) BB10-know-how to breach BB10 security to begin with?

[Voruganti Srikanth]

Hi Buddy,
Hope your doing well. Its a exact phone that what im searching for. But I have a small doubt over this . Can third party apps works on all blackberry phones or limited mobiles.

[Dunt Dunt Dunt]

Hi Buddy,
Hope your doing well. Its a exact phone that what im searching for. But I have a small doubt over this . Can third party apps works on all blackberry phones or limited mobiles.

Depends on what 3rd Party Apps and which phones...

But in general if you want "today" major apps... you need to skip a BBOS or BB10 powered BlackBerry and go with one of the Android powered phones.

Topic in this tread is about BB10... while it is compatible with apps that are compatible with Android 4.3... that list is getting smaller and smaller.

[dts32041]

Since Blackberry has cut its loyal customers free, is there a group developing to support us outliers. I have tried the Key1, but it is not like my classic. Want to use as long as possible. Should I buy a back up device.

[conite]

Since Blackberry has cut its loyal customers free, is there a group developing to support us outliers. I have tried the Key1, but it is not like my classic. Want to use as long as possible. Should I buy a back up device.

BBMo is the only gang in town.

"Cutting its loyal customers free" is quite an interesting way of saying "barely escaped bankruptcy".

[WES51]

I have tried the Key1, but it is not like my classic. Want to use as long as possible. Should I buy a back up device.

I have 3x Classics now. One that I use BBID-less, plus a brand new one that I keep as backup plus another brand new one (that I have managed to lock) for parts. For apps I use a separate Android, so I dual carry. It works quite well for me. I don't want to miss the productivity of the toolbelt.

I see no reason to upgrade to and Key-x model other than perhaps to support BBMo with my purchase. But hey, they don't support me by giving me what I want (toolbelt), so why should I care about them and support them by giving them what they want (my money).

I picked up the last 2x Classics for $125 brand new (sealed) on Amazon. I have the AT&T version that supports wireless charging, which is very important for me and works just so great.

People who are defending Blackberry for leaving out the toolbelt are making it look like it happens in order to broaden Blackberries customer base, as if no one would be interested in toolbelt. Most toolbelt fans like myself are already familiar (and tired) with their arguments.