- This post probably contributes nothing to the discussion but here goes.
When I first got the z it took me a while to get use to the deleting on both the handheld and sever. I though it would be good to have to option.
Now I've gotten used to filing (gmail).
It's lead to some pros and cons. Things are more organized. Sometimes an email that's not too important gets filed to look at at later and I don't bother as I forget ( hence not to important)
In any case, I guess people will now have the choice.
Can the bickering now stop.
I haven't read all the pages, but from what I have, Omni tech seems to be pretty fair in his comments
Posted via CB1011-13-13 04:57 PMLike 0 - Because I don't want to manually file dozens of emails a day? Sure, I can log into my Shaw webmail interface and set up automatic filing, but there's no IMAP or EAS connection to my PC, so if I file on the server there's no messages to download to the PC.11-13-13 06:06 PMLike 0
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Hey, am I a "prosumer"??? Lol
Posted via CB1011-13-13 06:29 PMLike 0 - I'm happy that this feature will be coming back, but without BIS acting as an intermediary, it's still not going to work fully for me.
When I go home and download my mail, it will be removed from the email server. Because my phone is sync'd to my email server using EAS, I'm guessing the email will disappear from my phone.
This feature doesn't appear to be saving a copy of the email to the phone.11-13-13 06:34 PMLike 0 - I'm happy that this feature will be coming back, but without BIS acting as an intermediary, it's still not going to work fully for me.
When I go home and download my mail, it will be removed from the email server. Because my phone is sync'd to my email server using EAS, I'm guessing the email will disappear from my phone.
This feature doesn't appear to be saving a copy of the email to the phone.
Posted via CB1011-13-13 06:37 PMLike 0 - Because there's only 1GB of storage for my email account. Plus if I was deleting an email from my phone I'd have to think about if my PC had downloaded the message first of not.11-13-13 06:52 PMLike 0
- Jeez, there's some members in this thread whose technical knowledge I greatly respect and read often. Disappointing to see some of them acting like kindergarten kids. I guess brilliance has its eccentricities.
Posted by Dr. Emmett Brown from my GoogleBerry Cranial Implant11-13-13 06:59 PMLike 0 -
Whichever way you look at it by physically moving your mail from your mailbox to what are effectively offline files on your PC that can't sync with or be further downloaded by anything else you are always going to cause your other devices problems.
Posted via CB1011-13-13 08:37 PMLike 0 - Well let's get back to discussing the feature and stop the silly banter can we.
The delete on handheld is not working as expected.
When I go home and receive mails on my yahoo or other accounts which I want to delete on handheld but retain on mailbox it's not happening even when the setting is set to delete on handheld only. The mails are deleting on device and mailbox
Only those mails that have actually been seen on the PC will allow delete on handheld and will remain on mailbox.
Please let me know how to delete on handheld only irrespective of what's been seen or not on the PC.
Posted via CB1011-13-13 11:06 PMLike 0 - OmnitechDragon Slayer
As I have pointed-out many times, all you were doing with your POP/Outlook system was deferring a huge amount of email management on your PC until later.
Filing things as they arrive, throughout the day, with a device that is always with you and thus available whenever you have a spare moment, is to me far more efficient than the "defer all this email organizing stuff until later on my desktop" thing. Once you've filed a message anywhere, it's filed everywhere.
And no more thousands of duplicate messages because you have to bcc everything you send on the handheld or you have no copy of your outgoing correspondence outside of the handheld. Or bcc'ing everything back to yourself in Outlook when you send or reply to something or else it doesn't show up on the handheld and you lose track of what you responded to on the desktop.
To me, that's a huge mess.NoAhB0Dy likes this.11-14-13 01:52 AMLike 1 -
Hopefully BlackBerry will sort this out by the final release version.
Suggest you start a new thread asking about this, people ignore this thread now sadly because they come here for info on a feature they love and have a very vocal minority tell them how they're 'doing things wrong' while not really understanding technology or human behaviour. Or social interactions.
New thread is possibly your best bet of having your issue reach more people.
Posted via CB1011-14-13 01:59 AMLike 0 - As I have pointed-out many times, all you were doing with your POP/Outlook system was deferring a huge amount of email management on your PC until later.
Filing things as they arrive, throughout the day, with a device that is always with you and thus available whenever you have a spare moment, is to me far more efficient than the "defer all this email organizing stuff until later on my desktop" thing. Once you've filed a message anywhere, it's filed everywhere.
And no more thousands of duplicate messages because you have to bcc everything you send on the handheld or you have no copy of your outgoing correspondence outside of the handheld. Or bcc'ing everything back to yourself in Outlook when you send or reply to something or else it doesn't show up on the handheld and you lose track of what you responded to on the desktop.
To me, that's a huge mess.
I don't spend one minute manually filing things on my pc. It's done automatically. I set up a message rule once and it's set forevwr
I rarely ever need my sent messages on my phone, I only use it to reply to the occasional message and skim I'm coming messages
Eas is designed for corporate user where they need access to their full inbox/outbox on their mobile dwvice, not for home users
Posted from a touch screen phone with no trackpad. Please excuse the poor formatting a.d grammatical and spelling errors.11-14-13 02:18 AMLike 0 - You're projecting your own needs onto other people again.
I don't spend one minute manually filing things on my pc. It's done automatically. I set up a message rule once and it's set forevwr
I rarely ever need my sent messages on my phone, I only use it to reply to the occasional message and skim I'm coming messages
Eas is designed for corporate user where they need access to their full inbox/outbox on their mobile dwvice, not for home users
Posted from a touch screen phone with no trackpad. Please excuse the poor formatting a.d grammatical and spelling errors.
You can't have a discussion with someone who is absolutely convinced they are right and only 'discussing' things with you to try and show you how you're wrong. It's pointless.
Some people derive pleasure from pretending they're smarter than they are on the internet, and for that self image to stick they have to tell everyone else they're idiots for not thinking the same way as these 'great thinkers'.
I think it's very telling that the majority of people posting here are happy that true sync is an option, but would like the iconic BlackBerry way as an option as well.
The small minority are very busy telling everyone else that only their way is perfect and everyone else is stupid for wanting something different. It's actually quite sad.
Posted via CB1011-14-13 02:24 AMLike 0 -
- Re: Delete from hand held, or delete from server.
I don't want someone telling me what is "better." I have a government that does that already. I want the options (that worked before) that make my life easier for me, not in someone else imagination of what I need.Last edited by Dr J39; 11-14-13 at 02:43 AM. Reason: Added header
bobauckland likes this.11-14-13 02:41 AMLike 1 -
Everyone's a tech guru on the internet, where wikipedia and Google are just clicks away.
But to not even understand that different people have different ways they like to get things done? That not everyone fits in one mould? That people don't like being told that their way is wrong when it's just different? I can't understand how people can be so self involved they can't even process that different people are different. Especially when they're supposedly a BlackBerry fan.
Posted via CB1011-14-13 02:56 AMLike 0 - [QUOTE=I haven't read all the pages, but from what I have, Omni tech seems to be pretty fair in his comments
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Omni tech is one of those people who think that their way is the only way, and that to think otherwise makes one stupid. Sorry, but I really don't need some know it all to tell me what is best for me. Some people are vegans, others like steak. It's called personal choice.bobauckland likes this.11-14-13 02:58 AMLike 1 - OmnitechDragon SlayerOmni tech is one of those people who think that their way is the only way, and that to think otherwise makes one stupid. Sorry, but I really don't need some know it all to tell me what is best for me. Some people are vegans, others like steak. It's called personal choice.
Your reading comprehension must not be very good then, because I have repeatedly pointed-out in this thread that I have no issue with having such an option, and have repeatedly pointed-out that it is my personal opinion in cases where I think something is more or less efficient, and have made it clear when appropriate when something is working against the way certain protocols were designed to operate. (Which is generally why the entire rest of the world implement them in that way.)
If someone really has a need to play the unappreciated and oppressed hero of the lowly tech peasantry, don't go blaming me for that affliction. I'm not the "wind up merchant" here.11-14-13 07:57 AMLike 0 - OmnitechDragon SlayerPlease see the parts above where I say "to me" and "in my opinion". Such phrases appear in abundance in my posts. Why you seem to think I am somehow imposing something on you or telling you you cannot do something is coming out of thin air.
I will also sometimes correct people like Auckland when they make hyperbolic and incorrect statements such as claiming BlackBerry is "breaking things" that are not "broken" by any known technological standard or metric.11-14-13 08:05 AMLike 0
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