1. Cobalt232's Avatar
    Hi cobalt, Thx for the great work

    Then started realising battery life dropping quickly and phone getting hot.
    After researching, realised that one of the problems might be play services eating cpu cycles.

    Posted via CB10
    Oh I love this question about Android apps eating up battery in the background. What I'm telling you now is backed up by the Blackberry Developer Site and is valid for ANY Android app on your device:

    From the Blackberry developer docs about the Blackberry Android runtime (Jelly Bean):
    * Apps can run services only while the user runs them, either in full screen or in thumbnail mode.
    * https://developer.blackberry.com/and..._software.html

    What does that mean? The Blackberry Android runtime does NOT allow Android apps to run any services in the background. Period. As soon as the screen goes off (battery saving mode, sleep mode), ANY Android app will stop working in the background. A good example to explain this may be light in your fridge. Everytime you open the door of your fridge, the light is on, right? So we must assume, that the light in the fridge is permanently on? No, it's not. It's triggered when you open the door and it goes off when you close the door.

    The only way to get an Android app to run permanently in the background is to implement Blackberry Headless mode. This must be requested from blackberry, and usually those apps are then ONLY avaliable on Blackberry World as a ported Android app (an example is Skype). All other Android apps that you download from anywhere else do NOT incorporate Headless mode and CANNOT run in the background.

    Now I already hear all the "specialists" that are saying "Hey, but I'm running task manager xyz and there are a lot of services running on my device and I cleaned them and now everything is great"

    Well, that simply isn't true. Running a task manager app is just like opening the door on the fridge. The light is now on. But if you close the taskmanager and the device goes to sleep, all services are stopped again.

    The second thing that you should know about background services is, that against the common believe, they do not RUN in the background. They register a trigger in the Android runtime. The registering service itself is not running. Now if the Android runtime receives an Intent, it will look if a services was registered for the intent and THEN will start the service. The service will do its work (i.e. sync data) and then close again. On a Blackberry device, this will only happen if:

    a) The device is NOT in sleepmode
    b) The app is open OR running in an active Frame

    If those conditions are not met, nothing happens. No services is started.

    And finally to answer your question about Play Services: If you install Play Services for the first time, it will sync a lot of data and index your android apps. This will initially use some battery.l After that, you won't notice any changes in battery life.
    12-20-15 04:35 AM
  2. monday akwu's Avatar
    Can anyone patch imo app and skype for me please

    Posted via CB10
    12-20-15 06:54 AM
  3. Ginowine's Avatar
    There is a major flaw with the Android Runtime on 2876.

    When you delete and app, it appears deleted to BB10 (Android Installer, Snap, or anything else outside of the Runtime), but it is NOT DELETED.

    The file can still be run from the settings app or Google Play Store (if you have any of those installed) even though the icon is gone from the home screen.

    If you try to delete the app properly from within the Runtime, it will error out and re-initialise the Runtime, and the app remains.

    I used Sachesi to replace the two Android bar files (from 2813), did a hard reset, and all is well.

    This was replicated on various Zs, Qs, and Leap.

    Hope this helps.
    Hello Conite,

    I'm now on 2813.

    So according to you in order to install BAR-files through Sachesi - Non destrcutive (From 2813 To 2876),

    I have to take the:

    1. Core (2876).
    2. Radio (2876).
    3. Updated BAR-files of 2876 (Leave the two BAR-files : sys.android and sys.android-shell behind).

    And final step after completion of upgrading from the previous OS 2813:

    4: Hard reset to push both volume buttons to hold on.



    Posted via CB10
    12-20-15 07:05 AM
  4. kbz1960's Avatar
    Here's what I did. I installed the FB update. Rebooted the phone (not sure this is absolutely necessary), deleted the app through Playstore, not by long pressing the app and trashcanning it. That worked. It doesn't show up in Playstore and the patched apk installed just fine. Now to try this with Tapatalk since the unpatched app is not playing nice.
    Tapatalk works fine for me un patched.
    12-20-15 07:10 AM
  5. conite's Avatar
    Hello Conite,

    I'm now on 2813.

    So according to you in order to install BAR-files through Sachesi - Non destrcutive (From 2813 To 2876),

    I have to take the:

    1. Core (2876).
    2. Radio (2876).
    3. Updated BAR-files of 2876 (Leave the two BAR-files : sys.android and sys.android-shell behind).

    And final step after completion of upgrading from the previous OS 2813:

    4: Hard reset to push both volume buttons to hold on.



    Posted via CB10
    Yes.

    Although if you do all of that at the same time, Sachesi will reboot your phone for you. Sachesi always triggers a reboot if an OS or a radio gets installed.
    noemi-abril likes this.
    12-20-15 08:13 AM
  6. halberry1's Avatar
    Oh I love this question about Android apps eating up battery in the background. What I'm telling you now is backed up by the Blackberry Developer Site and is valid for ANY Android app on your device:

    From the Blackberry developer docs about the Blackberry Android runtime (Jelly Bean):
    * Apps can run services only while the user runs them, either in full screen or in thumbnail mode.
    * https://developer.blackberry.com/and..._software.html

    What does that mean? The Blackberry Android runtime does NOT allow Android apps to run any services in the background. Period. As soon as the screen goes off (battery saving mode, sleep mode), ANY Android app will stop working in the background. A good example to explain this may be light in your fridge. Everytime you open the door of your fridge, the light is on, right? So we must assume, that the light in the fridge is permanently on? No, it's not. It's triggered when you open the door and it goes off when you close the door.

    The only way to get an Android app to run permanently in the background is to implement Blackberry Headless mode. This must be requested from blackberry, and usually those apps are then ONLY avaliable on Blackberry World as a ported Android app (an example is Skype). All other Android apps that you download from anywhere else do NOT incorporate Headless mode and CANNOT run in the background.

    Now I already hear all the "specialists" that are saying "Hey, but I'm running task manager xyz and there are a lot of services running on my device and I cleaned them and now everything is great"

    Well, that simply isn't true. Running a task manager app is just like opening the door on the fridge. The light is now on. But if you close the taskmanager and the device goes to sleep, all services are stopped again.

    The second thing that you should know about background services is, that against the common believe, they do not RUN in the background. They register a trigger in the Android runtime. The registering service itself is not running. Now if the Android runtime receives an Intent, it will look if a services was registered for the intent and THEN will start the service. The service will do its work (i.e. sync data) and then close again. On a Blackberry device, this will only happen if:

    a) The device is NOT in sleepmode
    b) The app is open OR running in an active Frame

    If those conditions are not met, nothing happens. No services is started.

    And finally to answer your question about Play Services: If you install Play Services for the first time, it will sync a lot of data and index your android apps. This will initially use some battery.l After that, you won't notice any changes in battery life.
    Fantastic reply, you best be ready to copy and paste that lol gonna add it to my clipman for future comments


     Passport 10.3.2.2639 UK. It can only be attributable to human error
    12-20-15 09:35 AM
  7. Ginowine's Avatar
    Yes.

    Although if you do all of that at the same time, Sachesi will reboot your phone for you. Sachesi always triggers a reboot if an OS or a radio gets installed.
    Clear and Understood. Thanks for your support.

    Posted via CB10
    12-20-15 09:52 AM
  8. savelandia153's Avatar
    Thankss

    Posted via CB10
    12-20-15 11:06 AM
  9. David Imedo's Avatar
    Hello Friends. I Decide Come Back to Blackberry Passport. Can you guys provide to me quick steps how to get latest version of Play store and how to install google app s on Blackberry 10? sorry if my questions give you smile . How I Understand Guy Named Cobalt made a great Job ! sorry that i did not read all 164 pages of this great forum. Thank You.
    12-20-15 05:29 PM
  10. BrooklynBerryAddict's Avatar
    Just read the first post and you should be good.

    Posted via CB10 on My BlackBerry Passport SE Running 10.3.2.2876
    12-20-15 05:51 PM
  11. jdesignz's Avatar
    There is a major flaw with the Android Runtime on 2876.

    When you delete and app, it appears deleted to BB10 (Android Installer, Snap, or anything else outside of the Runtime), but it is NOT DELETED.

    The file can still be run from the settings app or Google Play Store (if you have any of those installed) even though the icon is gone from the home screen.

    If you try to delete the app properly from within the Runtime, it will error out and re-initialise the Runtime, and the app remains.

    I used Sachesi to replace the two Android bar files (from 2813), did a hard reset, and all is well.

    This was replicated on various Zs, Qs, and Leap.

    Hope this helps.
    Hi do you mind sharing those 2 android bar files please? Or you can just mention what the names so I can dig up on the previous OS. TIA

    Pasaporte Pilipinas | SQW100-1/10.3.2.2876
    rajdon82 likes this.
    12-20-15 07:28 PM
  12. MilleniumFalcon006's Avatar
    Hi Cobalt, thank you so much for this, but I can't seem to make Facebook and Facebook Messenger work on my Z10. Please help. I'd really like a messenger in my phone.
    12-20-15 08:26 PM
  13. eywong's Avatar
    Hi do you mind sharing those 2 android bar files please? Or you can just mention what the names so I can dig up on the previous OS.
    Android bars from 2813 (Conite): both android bar files from 2813.rar
    Last edited by eywong; 12-20-15 at 11:18 PM.
    jdesignz likes this.
    12-20-15 10:27 PM
  14. David Imedo's Avatar
    Thank You BrooklynBerryAddict. So since 2014 this files are the same? is there any updates?
    Last edited by David Imedo; 12-21-15 at 12:23 AM.
    12-21-15 12:00 AM
  15. jzajac's Avatar
    Hi Cobalt, thank you so much for this, but I can't seem to make Facebook and Facebook Messenger work on my Z10. Please help. I'd really like a messenger in my phone.
    There hasn't been a version of Facebook or Messenger that has worked in ages. The last Facebook I have working is version 28.0.0.16.16 but there might be a 29 that works.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    12-21-15 12:13 AM
  16. noemi-abril's Avatar
    Hello Friends. I Decide Come Back to Blackberry Passport. Can you guys provide to me quick steps how to get latest version of Play store and how to install google app s on Blackberry 10? sorry if my questions give you smile . How I Understand Guy Named Cobalt made a great Job ! sorry that i did not read all 164 pages of this great forum. Thank You.
    Here and Here have full info ;-)
    David Imedo likes this.
    12-21-15 02:16 AM
  17. David Imedo's Avatar
    Thank You. Can I Get Directly Patched apk. for example Youtube, Google Maps, Facebook etc?
    12-21-15 06:28 AM
  18. noemi-abril's Avatar
    I and others have left something APKs in this threat.. you can search.
    12-21-15 06:31 AM
  19. Smokeaire's Avatar
    Thank You. Can I Get Directly Patched apk. for example Youtube, Google Maps, Facebook etc?
    All you need to do is read the FIRST post of all of Cobalt's threads.
    Here's the link on patching so you can be self-sufficient: http://forums.crackberry.com/showthread.php?p=10118742
    12-21-15 06:57 AM
  20. joeragan's Avatar
    Hi,

    I am trying to download Clash of Clans update (the winter theme) using Play Service Patcher. I entered "com.supercell.clashofclans" into the Download Package\Package section but it gives me "Unknown Error".

    I have already checked-in successfully, GSF-ID field is populated. Please advise.
    12-21-15 07:25 AM
  21. Smokeaire's Avatar
    Hi,

    I am trying to download Clash of Clans update (the winter theme) using Play Service Patcher. I entered "com.supercell.clashofclans" into the Download Package\Package section but it gives me "Unknown Error".

    I have already checked-in successfully, GSF-ID field is populated. Please advise.
    You down load via Play Store. You patch it using Play Service Patcher.
    12-21-15 07:27 AM
  22. yetdy's Avatar
    Joeragan,
    Easier to download the apk from this forum or cocland.com. A lot of people have patched the latest coc apk already and uploaded the same in this forum and outside. I find patching too complicated for me that is why I just download whatever I can. Search the forums. They are very helpful but you you need to do your own digging. We can help you but I assure you that it will be worth your time and effort to do so. You will learn a lot.

    Posted via CB10
    12-21-15 07:42 AM
  23. Smokeaire's Avatar
    Joeragan,
    Easier to download the apk from this forum or cocland.com. A lot of people have patched the latest coc apk already and uploaded the same in this forum and outside. I find patching too complicated for me that is why I just download whatever I can. Search the forums. They are very helpful but you you need to do your own digging. We can help you but I assure you that it will be worth your time and effort to do so. You will learn a lot.

    Posted via CB10
    Patching too complicated for you? <sigh>
    12-21-15 07:48 AM
  24. jzajac's Avatar
    Joeragan,
    Easier to download the apk from this forum or cocland.com. A lot of people have patched the latest coc apk already and uploaded the same in this forum and outside. I find patching too complicated for me that is why I just download whatever I can. Search the forums. They are very helpful but you you need to do your own digging. We can help you but I assure you that it will be worth your time and effort to do so. You will learn a lot.

    Posted via CB10
    Patching too complicated for you? <sigh>
    I was intimidated by this at first too, but I was also intimidated by tinkering with my old Tour and OS 5 before trying. Learning how to do this is probably easier than you're building it up to be. And while I always appreciate someone who says that they actually use the search function in these forums and recommend others do the same, I can say that patching an app yourself probably takes just as much time (if not less) as searching for a file you want with the added benefit that you can always trust your file source since you're doing it yourself. It's a skill that's worth learning if you want to get the most out of your BlackBerry 10 device.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    Smokeaire likes this.
    12-21-15 08:09 AM
  25. yetdy's Avatar
    Jzajac,

    Thanks for the comment. I agree with you on what you just commented on my reply. Let's just put it this way, I was active with winmobile 3 to IOS and android jellybean that I lost touch with what I can do and what I can learn more. Nowadays, I find it more rewarding to see you young people doing what we used to do. I am so out of touch with what i'm supposed to do that I find it too complicated to catch up with you. It's no excuse I know. Suffice it to say that I now find myself like a newbie and would rather help newbies appreciate bbos 10 first than asking them to make the plunge. maybe in the near future I will do as you say. For now, my 2 cents tells me that I must guide those interested in a newbie's easy way than those you suggested. Appreciate your comment though. Made me feel welcome to explore more of bbos 10. Kudos to you and those like you. Bbos 10 will be dead without you.

    Posted via CB10
    jzajac likes this.
    12-21-15 08:23 AM
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