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From the Blackberry developer docs about the Blackberry Android runtime (Jelly Bean):
* Apps can run services only while the user runs them, either in full screen or in thumbnail mode.
* https://developer.blackberry.com/and..._software.html
What does that mean? The Blackberry Android runtime does NOT allow Android apps to run any services in the background. Period. As soon as the screen goes off (battery saving mode, sleep mode), ANY Android app will stop working in the background. A good example to explain this may be light in your fridge. Everytime you open the door of your fridge, the light is on, right? So we must assume, that the light in the fridge is permanently on? No, it's not. It's triggered when you open the door and it goes off when you close the door.
The only way to get an Android app to run permanently in the background is to implement Blackberry Headless mode. This must be requested from blackberry, and usually those apps are then ONLY avaliable on Blackberry World as a ported Android app (an example is Skype). All other Android apps that you download from anywhere else do NOT incorporate Headless mode and CANNOT run in the background.
Now I already hear all the "specialists" that are saying "Hey, but I'm running task manager xyz and there are a lot of services running on my device and I cleaned them and now everything is great"
Well, that simply isn't true. Running a task manager app is just like opening the door on the fridge. The light is now on. But if you close the taskmanager and the device goes to sleep, all services are stopped again.
The second thing that you should know about background services is, that against the common believe, they do not RUN in the background. They register a trigger in the Android runtime. The registering service itself is not running. Now if the Android runtime receives an Intent, it will look if a services was registered for the intent and THEN will start the service. The service will do its work (i.e. sync data) and then close again. On a Blackberry device, this will only happen if:
a) The device is NOT in sleepmode
b) The app is open OR running in an active Frame
If those conditions are not met, nothing happens. No services is started.
And finally to answer your question about Play Services: If you install Play Services for the first time, it will sync a lot of data and index your android apps. This will initially use some battery.l After that, you won't notice any changes in battery life.12-20-15 03:35 AMLike 5 -
- There is a major flaw with the Android Runtime on 2876.
When you delete and app, it appears deleted to BB10 (Android Installer, Snap, or anything else outside of the Runtime), but it is NOT DELETED.
The file can still be run from the settings app or Google Play Store (if you have any of those installed) even though the icon is gone from the home screen.
If you try to delete the app properly from within the Runtime, it will error out and re-initialise the Runtime, and the app remains.
I used Sachesi to replace the two Android bar files (from 2813), did a hard reset, and all is well.
This was replicated on various Zs, Qs, and Leap.
Hope this helps.
I'm now on 2813.
So according to you in order to install BAR-files through Sachesi - Non destrcutive (From 2813 To 2876),
I have to take the:
1. Core (2876).
2. Radio (2876).
3. Updated BAR-files of 2876 (Leave the two BAR-files : sys.android and sys.android-shell behind).
And final step after completion of upgrading from the previous OS 2813:
4: Hard reset to push both volume buttons to hold on.
Posted via CB1012-20-15 06:05 AMLike 0 - kbz1960Doesn't MatterHere's what I did. I installed the FB update. Rebooted the phone (not sure this is absolutely necessary), deleted the app through Playstore, not by long pressing the app and trashcanning it. That worked. It doesn't show up in Playstore and the patched apk installed just fine. Now to try this with Tapatalk since the unpatched app is not playing nice.12-20-15 06:10 AMLike 0
- Hello Conite,
I'm now on 2813.
So according to you in order to install BAR-files through Sachesi - Non destrcutive (From 2813 To 2876),
I have to take the:
1. Core (2876).
2. Radio (2876).
3. Updated BAR-files of 2876 (Leave the two BAR-files : sys.android and sys.android-shell behind).
And final step after completion of upgrading from the previous OS 2813:
4: Hard reset to push both volume buttons to hold on.
Posted via CB10
Although if you do all of that at the same time, Sachesi will reboot your phone for you. Sachesi always triggers a reboot if an OS or a radio gets installed.noemi-abril likes this.12-20-15 07:13 AMLike 1 - Oh I love this question about Android apps eating up battery in the background. What I'm telling you now is backed up by the Blackberry Developer Site and is valid for ANY Android app on your device:
From the Blackberry developer docs about the Blackberry Android runtime (Jelly Bean):
* Apps can run services only while the user runs them, either in full screen or in thumbnail mode.
* https://developer.blackberry.com/and..._software.html
What does that mean? The Blackberry Android runtime does NOT allow Android apps to run any services in the background. Period. As soon as the screen goes off (battery saving mode, sleep mode), ANY Android app will stop working in the background. A good example to explain this may be light in your fridge. Everytime you open the door of your fridge, the light is on, right? So we must assume, that the light in the fridge is permanently on? No, it's not. It's triggered when you open the door and it goes off when you close the door.
The only way to get an Android app to run permanently in the background is to implement Blackberry Headless mode. This must be requested from blackberry, and usually those apps are then ONLY avaliable on Blackberry World as a ported Android app (an example is Skype). All other Android apps that you download from anywhere else do NOT incorporate Headless mode and CANNOT run in the background.
Now I already hear all the "specialists" that are saying "Hey, but I'm running task manager xyz and there are a lot of services running on my device and I cleaned them and now everything is great"
Well, that simply isn't true. Running a task manager app is just like opening the door on the fridge. The light is now on. But if you close the taskmanager and the device goes to sleep, all services are stopped again.
The second thing that you should know about background services is, that against the common believe, they do not RUN in the background. They register a trigger in the Android runtime. The registering service itself is not running. Now if the Android runtime receives an Intent, it will look if a services was registered for the intent and THEN will start the service. The service will do its work (i.e. sync data) and then close again. On a Blackberry device, this will only happen if:
a) The device is NOT in sleepmode
b) The app is open OR running in an active Frame
If those conditions are not met, nothing happens. No services is started.
And finally to answer your question about Play Services: If you install Play Services for the first time, it will sync a lot of data and index your android apps. This will initially use some battery.l After that, you won't notice any changes in battery life.
Passport 10.3.2.2639 UK. It can only be attributable to human error12-20-15 08:35 AMLike 0 -
- Hello Friends. I Decide Come Back to Blackberry Passport. Can you guys provide to me quick steps how to get latest version of Play store and how to install google app s on Blackberry 10? sorry if my questions give you smile . How I Understand Guy Named Cobalt made a great Job ! sorry that i did not read all 164 pages of this great forum. Thank You.12-20-15 04:29 PMLike 0
- Just read the first post and you should be good.
Posted via CB10 on My BlackBerry Passport SE Running 10.3.2.287612-20-15 04:51 PMLike 0 - There is a major flaw with the Android Runtime on 2876.
When you delete and app, it appears deleted to BB10 (Android Installer, Snap, or anything else outside of the Runtime), but it is NOT DELETED.
The file can still be run from the settings app or Google Play Store (if you have any of those installed) even though the icon is gone from the home screen.
If you try to delete the app properly from within the Runtime, it will error out and re-initialise the Runtime, and the app remains.
I used Sachesi to replace the two Android bar files (from 2813), did a hard reset, and all is well.
This was replicated on various Zs, Qs, and Leap.
Hope this helps.
Pasaporte Pilipinas� | SQW100-1/10.3.2.2876rajdon82 likes this.12-20-15 06:28 PMLike 1 - Hi Cobalt, thank you so much for this, but I can't seem to make Facebook and Facebook Messenger work on my Z10. Please help. I'd really like a messenger in my phone.12-20-15 07:26 PMLike 0
- Android bars from 2813 (Conite): both android bar files from 2813.rar
Last edited by eywong; 12-20-15 at 10:18 PM.
jdesignz likes this.12-20-15 09:27 PMLike 1 - Thank You BrooklynBerryAddict. So since 2014 this files are the same? is there any updates?
Last edited by David Imedo; 12-20-15 at 11:23 PM.
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Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android12-20-15 11:13 PMLike 0 - Hello Friends. I Decide Come Back to Blackberry Passport. Can you guys provide to me quick steps how to get latest version of Play store and how to install google app s on Blackberry 10? sorry if my questions give you smile . How I Understand Guy Named Cobalt made a great Job ! sorry that i did not read all 164 pages of this great forum. Thank You.David Imedo likes this.12-21-15 01:16 AMLike 1
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Here's the link on patching so you can be self-sufficient: http://forums.crackberry.com/showthread.php?p=1011874212-21-15 05:57 AMLike 0 - Hi,
I am trying to download Clash of Clans update (the winter theme) using Play Service Patcher. I entered "com.supercell.clashofclans" into the Download Package\Package section but it gives me "Unknown Error".
I have already checked-in successfully, GSF-ID field is populated. Please advise.12-21-15 06:25 AMLike 0 - Hi,
I am trying to download Clash of Clans update (the winter theme) using Play Service Patcher. I entered "com.supercell.clashofclans" into the Download Package\Package section but it gives me "Unknown Error".
I have already checked-in successfully, GSF-ID field is populated. Please advise.12-21-15 06:27 AMLike 0 - Joeragan,
Easier to download the apk from this forum or cocland.com. A lot of people have patched the latest coc apk already and uploaded the same in this forum and outside. I find patching too complicated for me that is why I just download whatever I can. Search the forums. They are very helpful but you you need to do your own digging. We can help you but I assure you that it will be worth your time and effort to do so. You will learn a lot.
Posted via CB1012-21-15 06:42 AMLike 0 - Joeragan,
Easier to download the apk from this forum or cocland.com. A lot of people have patched the latest coc apk already and uploaded the same in this forum and outside. I find patching too complicated for me that is why I just download whatever I can. Search the forums. They are very helpful but you you need to do your own digging. We can help you but I assure you that it will be worth your time and effort to do so. You will learn a lot.
Posted via CB1012-21-15 06:48 AMLike 0 - Joeragan,
Easier to download the apk from this forum or cocland.com. A lot of people have patched the latest coc apk already and uploaded the same in this forum and outside. I find patching too complicated for me that is why I just download whatever I can. Search the forums. They are very helpful but you you need to do your own digging. We can help you but I assure you that it will be worth your time and effort to do so. You will learn a lot.
Posted via CB10
Posted via the CrackBerry App for AndroidSmokeaire likes this.12-21-15 07:09 AMLike 1 - Jzajac,
Thanks for the comment. I agree with you on what you just commented on my reply. Let's just put it this way, I was active with winmobile 3 to IOS and android jellybean that I lost touch with what I can do and what I can learn more. Nowadays, I find it more rewarding to see you young people doing what we used to do. I am so out of touch with what i'm supposed to do that I find it too complicated to catch up with you. It's no excuse I know. Suffice it to say that I now find myself like a newbie and would rather help newbies appreciate bbos 10 first than asking them to make the plunge. maybe in the near future I will do as you say. For now, my 2 cents tells me that I must guide those interested in a newbie's easy way than those you suggested. Appreciate your comment though. Made me feel welcome to explore more of bbos 10. Kudos to you and those like you. Bbos 10 will be dead without you.
Posted via CB10jzajac likes this.12-21-15 07:23 AMLike 1
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