1. brookie229's Avatar
    Does WE McCloud integrate with the File Manager in BB10? If so, is there a BB10 app for it?

    Posted with my trusty Z10
    No it does not, so it wouldn't be of much interest to you. Furthermore, I use an android app to access it which does integrate into the Share function of BB10 but I can see that coming to an end eventually as it did with my Playbook about a year ago.

    Posted via CB10
    12-11-18 04:46 PM
  2. bb_geezer's Avatar
    So long as the user turns off BlackBerry Protect prior to the BBID servers being shut down, it will be possible to reload the software, but it won't be possible to restore apps from BlackBerry World. So the user will be stuck with the stock apps in BB10.
    stock apps and user data can be restored without the need for Blackberry Limited-provided services right now.

    This is news to me. Let me get this straight, you guys are saying that if one turns off Blackberry Protect before 2020, it's possible to do a reload via the autoloader, and then continue to use the Blackberry device with stock apps?
    12-11-18 06:31 PM
  3. TrumpetTiger's Avatar
    This is news to me. Let me get this straight, you guys are saying that if one turns off Blackberry Protect before 2020, it's possible to do a reload via the autoloader, and then continue to use the Blackberry device with stock apps?
    That is precisely what I am saying. This is tested and confirmed; one does not need a Blackberry ID in order to use the device with stock apps (plus any native BARs which developers have or will make available for sideloading of course).
    12-11-18 06:49 PM
  4. conite's Avatar
    This is news to me. Let me get this straight, you guys are saying that if one turns off Blackberry Protect before 2020, it's possible to do a reload via the autoloader, and then continue to use the Blackberry device with stock apps?
    Yes. Plus any sideloaded bar files and compatible installed apks.
    12-11-18 06:52 PM
  5. Halifax Guy's Avatar
    May I ask how one goes about getting rid of the BBID?

    Q10 Powered
    12-12-18 06:27 AM
  6. bb92a5's Avatar
    what do you mean by "getting rid"?...

    Posted via CB10
    12-12-18 08:15 AM
  7. conite's Avatar
    May I ask how one goes about getting rid of the BBID?

    Q10 Powered
    You disable BlackBerry Protect on the device, then remove the device from Protect online.

    You can then run an autoloader or do a factory reset. Don't enter a BBID on first setup.

    You will, of course, immediately be locked out of BBM, and will no longer have access to your purchased apps on BlackBerry World.
    12-12-18 10:26 AM
  8. Halifax Guy's Avatar
    You disable BlackBerry Protect on the device, then remove the device from Protect online.

    You can then run an autoloader or do a factory reset. Don't enter a BBID on first setup.

    You will, of course, immediately be locked out of BBM, and will no longer have access to your purchased apps on BlackBerry World.
    Thank you Conite. I have made note of these directions for later use. I appreciate your assistance.

    Q10 Powered
    12-13-18 12:27 PM
  9. bb10adopter111's Avatar
    You disable BlackBerry Protect on the device, then remove the device from Protect online.

    You can then run an autoloader or do a factory reset. Don't enter a BBID on first setup.

    You will, of course, immediately be locked out of BBM, and will no longer have access to your purchased apps on BlackBerry World.
    I believe the second step is unnecessary. Once you disable BlackBerry Protect on the device, the only reason to log on to the BlackBerry Protect Web site is to confirm that it's indeed turned off. There are no actions to take online, and you do not need to delete your BBID to successfully reset your device or use an autoloader.

    You will receive pop up messages to add a BBID forever, but they can be ignored without consequence.

    Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

    Posted with my trusty Z10
    12-13-18 02:26 PM
  10. conite's Avatar
    I believe the second step is unnecessary. Once you disable BlackBerry Protect on the device, the only reason to log on to the BlackBerry Protect Web site is to confirm that it's indeed turned off. There are no actions to take online, and you do not need to delete your BBID to successfully reset your device or use an autoloader.

    You will receive pop up messages to add a BBID forever, but they can be ignored without consequence.

    Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

    Posted with my trusty Z10
    I wasn't suggesting deleting the BBID online (worst thing ever).

    I've seen BlackBerry Protect re-enable on a device (during a reboot) before when it was kept enabled online. It's rare, but I've seen it 1st hand.
    12-13-18 02:31 PM
  11. bb10adopter111's Avatar
    I wasn't suggesting deleting the BBID online (worst thing ever).

    I've seen BlackBerry Protect re-enable on a device (during a reboot) before when it was kept enabled online. It's rare, but I've seen it 1st hand.
    Yes, absolutely confirm that BB Protect is indeed off on the server via the Web site before resetting or using an autoloader!

    I didn't mean to imply that you said to delete the BBID. That's something I've seen other people say, and I wanted to be clear.

    Last time I checked I noticed it's impossible to turn off BB Protect on the server. That's smart, as it effectively prevents that being done remotely.
    12-13-18 02:37 PM
  12. bb_geezer's Avatar
    That is precisely what I am saying. This is tested and confirmed; one does not need a Blackberry ID in order to use the device with stock apps (plus any native BARs which developers have or will make available for sideloading of course).
    Yes. Plus any sideloaded bar files and compatible installed apks.
    Interesting. I will be trying this myself and will report back.
    12-13-18 06:11 PM
  13. pkcable's Avatar
    On that date your BlackBerry will explode!
    Yesterday 09:24 AM
  14. hvacdon's Avatar

    I've seen BlackBerry Protect re-enable on a device (during a reboot) before when it was kept enabled online. It's rare, but I've seen it 1st hand.
    I can confirm that I have noticed the same action on my Z30 and Classic.

    Also, I noted in the past...

    https://forums.crackberry.com/showth...1#post13262064

    that I was able to shut off BB Protect without connection to BBID servers, then reset by autoloading and set up my phone without entering a BBID.

    My point being that, sometime after Dec 31, 2019, and when the BBID servers are ultimately shut down, you should be able to reset the phone and/or install an autoloader, provided that the local phone BB Protect is turned off immediately prior to reset.
    Last edited by hvacdon; Yesterday at 02:37 PM.
    Yesterday 02:14 PM
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