[smart548]

So we all agree the usefullness in those years (and next couple of years to come imo) of quad-octa-core processor on a smartphone. Anyway I just read somewhere in the forum that BB10 DOES NOT support quad-core processor! :O I think it was supposed to support up to 32 processors being QNX based.. Can someone explain that please?
(I would instead prefer :
- Much more internal storage
- 3-4 GB ram
- Faster processor(clock)
- Slightly better gpu
Point 2 and 3 will guarantee much more multitasking.
)

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[SCrid2000]

Specs these days are used to sell phones, not power them.

A quad core isn't necessarily needed right now. And even Intel PCs don't need octocores.

[smart548]

Specs these days are used to sell phones, not power them.

A quad core isn't necessarily needed right now. And even Intel PCs don't need octocores.

Sure, but what about my question? :-P

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[anon(8445214)]

So we all agree the usefullness in those years (and next couple of years to come imo) of quad-octa-core processor on a smartphone.

Nope, I don't.

[anon(3993749)]

So we all agree the usefullness in those years (and next couple of years to come imo) of quad-octa-core processor on a smartphone. Anyway I just read somewhere in the forum that BB10 DOES NOT support quad-core processor! :O I think it was supposed to support up to 32 processors being QNX based.. Can someone explain that please?
(I would instead prefer :
- Much more internal storage
- 3-4 GB ram
- Faster processor(clock)
- Slightly better gpu
Point 2 and 3 will guarantee much more multitasking.
)

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In theory it should run on quad core processors just fine since it's based on QNX. I don't think you'll be able to tell the difference though.

As for the specs you enumerated, 4 GB RAM would be overkill for a phone. The GPU has already been updated with the Z30. And regarding storage, 16 GB should be enough if they let us install apps on the SD card.

[smart548]

SD card install is such a bad thing to me.

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[SlcCorrado]

Won't happen anyway, for security reasons

[shane999]

In theory it should run on quad core processors just fine since it's based on QNX. I don't think you'll be able to tell the difference though. it has 3-4 GB ram, Faster processor and cool phone cases.
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[ArmedHitman]

So we all agree the usefullness in those years (and next couple of years to come imo) of quad-octa-core processor on a smartphone. Anyway I just read somewhere in the forum that BB10 DOES NOT support quad-core processor! :O I think it was supposed to support up to 32 processors being QNX based.. Can someone explain that please?
(I would instead prefer :
- Much more internal storage
- 3-4 GB ram
- Faster processor(clock)
- Slightly better gpu
Point 2 and 3 will guarantee much more multitasking.
)

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It supports a Quad core... But I don't see the need of it... unless your working out mad mathematical equations and algorithms continuously on your device. It's overkill, even battlefield 4 would find that too much power :/... Even on my PC I under clock it because I simply have no reason for all that power just to power chrome and Firefox :/ burns energy and money for nothing, like apples 64 bit processor which at the moment is useful the same way as an automatic/rearwheel drive car in snow.

Plus all that power needs a battery... I like my 12-15 hour battery life on my Z10... You do know alienware laptops only last 4 hours max on a full charge... That's what the manufacture says so it's normally less then that :/

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[Gajja]

So we all agree the usefullness in those years (and next couple of years to come imo) of quad-octa-core processor on a smartphone. Anyway I just read somewhere in the forum that BB10 DOES NOT support quad-core processor! :O I think it was supposed to support up to 32 processors being QNX based.. Can someone explain that please?
(I would instead prefer :
- Much more internal storage
- 3-4 GB ram
- Faster processor(clock)
- Slightly better gpu
Point 2 and 3 will guarantee much more multitasking.
)

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The Z30 already has a GPU that is quad-core; Adreno 320. The CPU is dual core; Snapdragon. So that is six cores in total right?
The Z10 has a single core GPU and a dual core CPU, so that one is just three cores.
Lots of people are saying the Z30 is muuuch quicker than the Z10, probable that its because it can apply 6 cores to the job instead of the three the Z10 has.

[merli001]

RAM is the key for multitasking.current Krait dual core cpu is enough for most apps.only app that can uses over 2gb ram is internet BROWSER app.

i tested same websites(over 50 tabs!!!) on both samsung s4 and q10
performance was almost same

[ArmedHitman]

The Z30 already has a GPU that is quad-core; Adreno 320. The CPU is dual core; Snapdragon. So that is six cores in total right?
The Z10 has a single core GPU and a dual core CPU, so that one is just three cores.
Lots of people are saying the Z30 is muuuch quicker than the Z10, probable that its because it can apply 6 cores to the job instead of the three the Z10 has.

It doesn't actually work like that... I don't think QNX has the ability to offload CPU tasks to the GPU like how PC's do(DirectCompute)...

The GPU is for graphical tasks such as rendering of the UI, games, polygons and sheet... The CPU does the maths behind it , meaning physics, data handling, multitasking applications instructions. But Z30 is much quicker cause it has much more oomph.. 1.7GHz vs 1.5GHz and cause our OS is very pretty the GPU has more space to do its work too on the Z30

[BBPandy]

I have heard that rumor too, but I think that's all it is, a rumor. I've not heard that from a reliable source.

.....Also, it should be noted that the Z30 has a quad-core GPU.

[hawbman]

RAM is the key for multitasking.current Krait dual core cpu is enough for most apps.only app that can uses over 2gb ram is internet BROWSER app.

i tested same websites(over 50 tabs!!!) on both samsung s4 and q10
performance was almost same

Agreed, dual core is enough . However only works to you, me, crackberry readers. The mass market wants quad-core, not need it.

Better to have quad-core and sell, rather than dual-core but not sell.


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[aha]

Successful businesses convince people to buy stuff they don't need. Bad businesses convince people they don't need stuff they don't supply.

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[Bluenoser63]

So we all agree the usefullness in those years (and next couple of years to come imo) of quad-octa-core processor on a smartphone. Anyway I just read somewhere in the forum that BB10 DOES NOT support quad-core processor! :O I think it was supposed to support up to 32 processors being QNX based.. Can someone explain that please?
(I would instead prefer :
- Much more internal storage
- 3-4 GB ram
- Faster processor(clock)
- Slightly better gpu
Point 2 and 3 will guarantee much more multitasking.
)

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To make quad-core useful, apps need to be rewritten to access individual cores to offload processing to those additional cores. That is what is posted about not supporting quad core. I doubt that any apps out there are even using dual-cores. And that is across all platforms. Just because something is dual or quad core doesn't mean it it of any use.

Lack of software expertise dampens multicore use | ZDNet

Liat added that developers are at the mercy of what APIs (application programming interfaces) are "exposed by the mobile platform provider". If these providers have not opened up distinct APIs for developers to take advantage of multiple cores, then having the hardware is "meaningless", she noted. "The reality is that this technology trend of multicores can be somewhat confusing for most developers."

Please read about the details of multi-core programming which have benefits and drawbacks. I doubt less than 1% of all apps have been optimized for multiple cores. So you can have all the cores you want, but if they are not being used, then it is all about bragging rights to how many cores your phone has.

[BBPandy]

1 - Successful businesses convince people to buy stuff they don't need.

2 - Bad businesses convince people they don't need stuff they don't supply.

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So like:

1 - Apple convincing people they need an iPhone

2 - Apple convincing people for years that they didn't need Cut & Past, and now that they don't need NFC


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[rthonpm]

Agreed, dual core is enough . However only works to you, me, crackberry readers. The mass market wants quad-core, not need it.

Better to have quad-core and sell, rather than dual-core but not sell.


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Outside of tech blogs and forums I highly doubt you'll find anyone who knows what the difference is between dual core and quad core processors. The most taxing thing the mass market does with their phone is Angry Birds or photo sharing.

Since the capabilities of every smartphone, no matter what the OS, are pretty much identical the manufacturers need a way of differentiating themselves and tech porn seems to be the most effective way of doing it.

[BBPandy]

Outside of tech blogs and forums I highly doubt you'll find anyone who knows what the difference is between dual core and quad core processors. If you need a quad core processor to power a device you use for Facebook, Angry Birds and whatever picture sharing app du jour, then you have a problem...

Didn't you hear? We DO have a problem. We no longer need 4 cores to power our Facebook, we need 8! For Angry Birds, we had best get 192

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[Bluenoser63]

Outside of tech blogs and forums I highly doubt you'll find anyone who knows what the difference is between dual core and quad core processors. The most taxing thing the mass market does with their phone is Angry Birds or photo sharing.

Since the capabilities of every smartphone, no matter what the OS, are pretty much identical the manufacturers need a way of differentiating themselves and tech porn seems to be the most effective way of doing it.

I agree. People hear buzz words but don't have any clue on how it works. Multi-core programming on Android can actually cause the app to lag as the UI can on only be on one core and if it is waiting for an update from the other core, it will lag and become unresponsive. So you actually get in the users mind a poorer functioning app.

[bubbbab]

Successful businesses convince people to buy stuff they don't need. Bad businesses convince people they don't need stuff they don't supply.

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Well put.

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[BitPusher2600]

I think it's all words and a general gimmick when it comes to selling phones; people equate higher specs to better performance. Isn't QNX itself supposed to be in the realm of 150,000 lines of code? Taking Android for example, based on Linux which is one of the most sloppy, inefficient and massively oversized code bases, in the realm of 15 million+ lines of code, combined of course with a Java layer, I bet a quad-core or more would be necessary for it to really perform well. I can't imagine how much of what any user would need to be doing on a BB10 device in order to fully utilize four or more cores. And even then, on any platform, how much time is spent doing anything that requires such processing power? It doesn't require quadcores to browse the Web or screw around with stuff like Facebook does it? I'm under the impression the single biggest activity in terms of required processing power that one can engage in is video gaming.

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[LWKING]

Well screw you guys, I want a quad core processor clocked around 2.0 GHZ! I also want more than 2 GB of RAM.

Mobile Computing anyone?

I also want to make this point: if the next BB10 phone was announced to have a Snapdragon 805 processor (and a larger battery), not a single one of you would complain. You'd find a way to validate it and rejoice.

In BB10's current form, anything more than a higher clocked dual core isn't needed. The question is, who's making next gen dual cores nowadays? I don't mean to be rhetorical.

Addressing the rumor that QNX doesn't support quad core, this was true up until December if the information that I found here was accurate and QNX stayed on schedule. Future high end BB10 phones will have quad core processors.

Posted with my Q10!

[Bluenoser63]

Well screw you guys, I want a quad core processor clocked around 2.0 GHZ! I also want more than 2 GB of RAM.

Mobile Computing anyone?

I also want to make this point: if the next BB10 phone was announced to have a Snapdragon 805 processor (and a larger battery), not a single one of you would complain. You'd find a way to validate it and rejoice.

In BB10's current form, anything more than a higher clocked dual core isn't needed. The question is, who's making next gen dual cores nowadays? I don't mean to be rhetorical.

Addressing the rumor that QNX doesn't support quad core, this was true up until December if the information that I found here was accurate and QNX stayed on schedule. Future high end BB10 phones will have quad core processors.

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Having quad core won't mean that apps will run anymore efficiently unless developers have the tools to use them. A faster clocked dual will be just as fast as the same clocked quad for apps. And even if the developers had the tools, most wouldn't know how to properly use the tools and could result in worse performing quad core apps vs dual core apps with the same processor speed. So in effect is all you get is bragging rights.

[LWKING]

Having quad core won't mean that apps will run anymore efficiently unless developers have the tools to use them. A faster clocked dual will be just as fast as the same clocked quad for apps. And even if the developers had the tools, most wouldn't know how to properly use the tools and could result in worse performing quad core apps vs dual core apps with the same processor speed. So in effect is all you get is bragging rights.

Thanks buddy, I know how processors work. You missed my point; MOBILE COMPUTING! Fingers crossed that BlackBerry stuck to this and delivers something unique and refreshing that the hardware can utilize very soon.

Posted with my Q10!