1. Tony Morfin's Avatar
    ''For BlackBerry, there is a balance between doing what's right, such as helping to apprehend criminals, and preventing government abuse of invading citizen's privacy."

    Apparently Mr.Chen is hiding and refusing to show face..

    BlackBerry Privacy protection broken...-img_1724.png

    Posted via CB10
    04-22-16 10:06 AM
  2. jaydee5799's Avatar
    what he says is something MANY people agree with....regardless of how secure you think your BlackBerry is..............
    04-22-16 10:29 AM
  3. to boldly go's Avatar
    1) Apple is not now, never was before, and never will be, as secure s BlackBerry.
    2) The Cloud will give law enforcement whatever they want as long as they get it before a password switch (not talking about BlackBerry here but I don't know, have never used cloud storage.)
    3) there is a difference between unlocking phones and giving lawful requests for information what they need on a case by case basis.

    LAWFUL requests justified by a legal probable cause.

    There is very little left in the way of privacy or security anymore, but BlackBerry gives us what it gives us.
    gugomat likes this.
    04-22-16 10:56 AM
  4. Tony Morfin's Avatar
    But when you have a CEO that easily bends over to authority, that's when you jeopardized BlackBerry's reputation..

    Posted via CB10
    04-22-16 04:31 PM
  5. bloodyrek's Avatar
    But when you have a CEO that easily bends over to authority, that's when you jeopardized BlackBerry's reputation..

    Posted via CB10
    You make a point but at the same time you're blaming the wrong person.

    The key was given in 2010. Chen wasn't in office.

    Posted via CB10
    04-22-16 04:33 PM
  6. kvndoom's Avatar
    You make a point but at the same time you're blaming the wrong person.

    The key was given in 2010. Chen wasn't in office.

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    Everything is Chen's fault. Including polio and global warming.

    BlackBerry Classic non-camera, Cricket Wireless
    04-22-16 04:53 PM
  7. Richard Buckley's Avatar
    I always find it facinating that on what is supposed to be a BlackBerry fan site posters are more likely to repeat the FUD of detractors than find out the truth. To extend upon what Jaydee said, what would you do if a law enforcement agency presented you with a court order for information pertinent to a criminal investigation? It is easy to say fight it, until it actually happens to you, especially if you don't have the financial and leagal resources of Apple or Google.

    As far as being broken, the global key is only useful for PIN-to-PIN and BBM messages involving BBOS (7 or earlier) devices using wireless, and then only if they are not on a BES had have had the key changed.

    Between BB10, iOS, Android and Windows BBM messages are encrypted with TLS between the handset and BlackBerry servers. BlackBerry would still have to comply with a court order to provide this traffic.

    Between devices on a BES where the administrator has changed the key BlackBerry would not have the key. A court order would have to be presented to the BES owner to get the data. BlackBerry (and RIM before the name change) have never been able to provide anyone BES encryption keys. So any data carried within the devices managed by a BES is only available from the entity that owns the BES. This predates even the existance of the iPhone.

    BBM Protected (with or without BES) provides END-TO-END encryption of BBM traffic.

    Making decisions today, based on six year old information is not very wise, especially in technology


    https://help.blackberry.com/detectLa...-security-pdf/

    https://help.blackberry.com/detectLa...-security-pdf/
    Carjackd likes this.
    04-23-16 07:35 AM
  8. Henry Jr's Avatar
    But when you have a CEO that easily bends over to authority, that's when you jeopardized BlackBerry's reputation..

    Posted via CB10
    Can you provide any actual examples of this?

    Q10 (SQN100-3 : 10.3.2.158), Passport (SQW-100 : 10.3.1.1779)
    04-23-16 08:15 AM
  9. MrGlenn's Avatar
    Don't forget also "BlackBerry never used cloud storage" is a big fat lie. One of the main features of BlackBerry Protect for legacy BBOS devices was cloud backups of all your communication history and settings.

    It's one of the things we actually complained about in the beginning of BB10, that this cloud backup option was removed from Protect. Little bit of irony there.

    Basically BlackBerry used to do what Apple used to do, and now they still do what Apple does. So if you call Apple secure (enough), so is BlackBerry.

    BlackBerry 10, CB10 signed.
    Troy Tiscareno likes this.
    04-23-16 09:04 AM
  10. Richard Buckley's Avatar
    From a CBC news article this morning:

    Apple's battle with the FBI over access to the iPhone of one of the San Bernardino shooters left some people thinking the company doesn't co-operate with law enforcement, but it does - and always has.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/bo...rity-1.3548481


    LeapSTR100-2/10.3.2.2876
    04-24-16 08:41 AM
  11. billbuck0's Avatar
    There's not much if any Privacy in this world.

    Sun on Privacy: 'Get Over It'
    04-24-16 09:08 AM
  12. byex's Avatar
    DOJ in the states is starting to drop access to Iphone court orders.
    They now know how to break in without Apples help. Has happened twice, that we know of, in one month.

    So much for Apple security.

    Posted via CB10
    04-24-16 10:08 AM
  13. extisis's Avatar

    So much for Apple security.

    Posted via CB10
    Was never a thing..

    Posted via CB10
    04-24-16 12:09 PM
  14. Richard Buckley's Avatar
    You also have to remember that privacy from government scrutiny isn't a right. Of course rights vary from one jurisdiction to another, but even in the US the right is freedom from unreasonable search and seizure. Of course the courts decide what is reasonable.

    LeapSTR100-2/10.3.2.2876
    04-24-16 12:36 PM
  15. byex's Avatar
    Was never a thing..

    Posted via CB10
    According to many on this forum, Apple security was the benchmark for smartphone security.

    Posted via CB10
    04-24-16 11:16 PM
  16. MrGlenn's Avatar
    According to many on this forum, Apple security was the benchmark for smartphone security.
    "X is the Benchmark for Y", doesn't necessarily say anything about how reliable X is, just that all others are doing worse.

    BlackBerry 10, CB10 signed.
    extisis likes this.
    04-25-16 04:19 AM
  17. extisis's Avatar
    According to many on this forum, Apple security was the benchmark for smartphone security.

    Posted via CB10
    Tells me nothing. Apple is a joke.

    Posted via CB10
    04-26-16 09:01 PM

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