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From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.01-12-20 11:32 AMLike 0 -
But going back to the vintage cars reference, I really feel there's no need for such an effort to find parts; at least in the US, I wouldn't know about Cuba,,,01-12-20 11:35 AMLike 0 -
1) Radio Bands
2) Battery Replacement
3) Data sync protocols for email, calendar, contacts, etc.
So long as those three issues are addressed, I can see using my BB10 phones as daily drivers indefinitely.
But if any of those three break, it's game over, IMO.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.Laura Knotek likes this.01-12-20 12:12 PMLike 1 -
Two of my uncles in Peru kept 40-50s vintage Chevys and Fords going in the 80s and 90s this way.Laura Knotek likes this.01-12-20 12:15 PMLike 1 - There are three major, intractable limitations on BB10 viability:
1) Radio Bands
2) Battery Replacement
3) Data sync protocols for email, calendar, contacts, etc.
So long as those three issues are addressed, I can see using my BB10 phones as daily drivers indefinitely.
But if any of those three break, it's game over, IMO.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.01-12-20 01:04 PMLike 0 - I happened to visit one of those machine shops 2 weeks ago in Holguin. Amazing to see what these guys do. But I also found out that many of those vintage cars you see actually have original engines replaced by diesel engines. I watched as a 54 Chevy was getting a Russian diesel replacement and mounts were being machined to accept it.01-12-20 01:08 PMLike 0
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- Yes it is. Who says there are no good apps in BBW. Roger was a premier dev for BB10 with beautiful apps.anon(5597702) and bb9900user2018 like this.01-12-20 01:29 PMLike 2
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From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.01-12-20 01:35 PMLike 0 - You already know the limitations of BB10 since you’re still using Classic until it broke. Are you asking if Passport hardware makes sense? It’s different layout that many love or hate. Personally I hate it and prefer Classic over Passport if back in 2016 or so.
Biggest issue with any BB10 hardware is the devices are old from component standpoint and most available now are used. We’re not talking parts sourcing like Cuban automobiles but you get the point01-13-20 10:03 AMLike 0 - I don't think any of the three are at risk of changing in the next five years. I just meant that WHEN batteries can no longer be replaced, that will be the beginning of the end, whether it's next year or in 2030.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.
But I think Carrier's might be an issue for BB10 uses as they transition from 3G to LTE/5G. Verizon claims that the BB10 devices don't meet their standards for VoLTE/HD Voice. So right now BB10 is pretty much dead on Verizon if you need a new activation, and in a year it looks like all BB10 device will be gone from the US's biggest carrier.
Is Verizon just pushing those older devices off? Or is there something about the old radios that really aren't supported? Will it affect other carriers as they move off of 3G?
But in the end, if it works... use it till it doesn't.01-13-20 10:33 AMLike 0 - I don't think anyone will be able to pop in a "new" battery and get the charge out of it that an actual new battery would offer.... but it will be usable - especially for those devices that allow for removable batteries.
But I think Carrier's might be an issue for BB10 uses as they transition from 3G to LTE/5G. Verizon claims that the BB10 devices don't meet their standards for VoLTE/HD Voice. So right now BB10 is pretty much dead on Verizon if you need a new activation, and in a year it looks like all BB10 device will be gone from the US's biggest carrier.
Is Verizon just pushing those older devices off? Or is there something about the old radios that really aren't supported? Will it affect other carriers as they move off of 3G?
But in the end, if it works... use it till it doesn't.
I use my Z10 on 4G/LTE almost exclusively. It's not an issue with AT&T or T-Mobile, but I don't know how Sprint and Verizon are dealing with the GSM unlocked BB10 phones.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.01-13-20 10:42 AMLike 0 - I've been very impressed (shocked actually) with the performance of replacement Z10 batteries.
I use my Z10 on 4G/LTE almost exclusively. It's not an issue with AT&T or T-Mobile, but I don't know how Sprint and Verizon are dealing with the GSM unlocked BB10 phones.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.
Verizon... no one has activated any BB10 devices for a long while now. Several have had a device die, and got a replacement to find they couldn't get them to activate it - you don't just move a SIM.01-13-20 11:15 AMLike 0 - Feb 19, 2020 is the current AT&T end of 3G activations.... that might be an indicator for them supporting BB10 going forward. But if you have an active device, you should be good for two more years. May find that you can't replace it - or move between devices.
Verizon... no one has activated any BB10 devices for a long while now. Several have had a device die, and got a replacement to find they couldn't get them to activate it - you don't just move a SIM.
I can count on one hand the number of times I've been stuck on 2G/3G in the past couple of years.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.01-13-20 11:31 AMLike 0 - Are you saying that AT&T won't provision a BB10 device that supports it's bands for 4G/LTE after it ends 3G activations or just that they may not?
I can count on one hand the number of times I've been stuck on 2G/3G in the past couple of years.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.01-13-20 12:29 PMLike 0 -
Posted via CB10bb9900user2018 likes this.01-14-20 02:28 PMLike 1 -
- I've been very impressed (shocked actually) with the performance of replacement Z10 batteries.
I use my Z10 on 4G/LTE almost exclusively. It's not an issue with AT&T or T-Mobile, but I don't know how Sprint and Verizon are dealing with the GSM unlocked BB10 phones.
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.
Posted via CB1001-14-20 08:04 PMLike 0 -
Posted via CB1001-14-20 08:09 PMLike 0 - Additional features I like:
Contacts integration with Exchange Active Sync to my Outlook account. No need to back up contacts, and updates are synchronized when updated either on my phone or Client PC.
Linking of contacts. I have my wife's Outlook contacts and my contacts setup on my device. Then I link them so the two become one. She is not technically savvy with these things (although she is adept at Facebook, to which I am not. Hence our dependence on each other), so I can update and add contacts on my Classic and quickly get it deployed to her Leap. So much easier to maintain.
I like the calendar. It allows you to create sub calendar entries/folders. It may be a Outlook feature, but integrates nicely. That way I can create a subcalendar for each of our kids so they have an individual calendar, but it is consolidated in the BlackBerry Calendar app. My wife and I use a shared Outlook account so it's easier to keep appointment schedules up to date.
Gestures is something I really like and instantly notice when they are not present on other devices like our iPad. Like a creature of habit, I try to use gestures before remembering I am not on my Classic.
I really like the B & T keyboard short cuts to quickly scroll up and down. I really hope Microsoft can add this to Windows 10 for when working on a large file.
I have to second the maps. Basic but quite reliable.
Expandable memory. I bought the 128 GB micro SD for both our phones. Great for carrying loads of podcasts for when at work, etc.
PDF app is great. Nice to be able to fill in files and add a signature to send back (ROI, permission slips etc) to school, providers, etc.
Posted via CB10truth4u likes this.01-14-20 08:26 PMLike 1 -
From the screen of my trusty Z10 using the exceptional BlackBerry VKB.01-15-20 06:02 AMLike 0 -
Posted via CB1001-15-20 09:22 AMLike 0 -
Posted via CB1002-05-20 01:24 PMLike 0 -
Yes keyboard shortcuts were all the rage back when DOS ruled the world of the desktop applications like WordStar (predates Wordperfect) before Windows because they were super efficient and fast for workers familiar with them back then - far more efficent than the Windows GUI versions that replaced them. Microsoft initially didn't or couldn't figure out how to design it into windows apps very well...but decades later they are a bit better and still there. Just like I'm sure a PKB BlackBerry should still be for years down the road.Naimisha likes this.02-06-20 10:22 AMLike 1
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