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I remember a few years ago with prior leaks for the Blackberry OS that folks would post positive comments about a leak in blue, and negative comments about a leak in red. Going back to that could potentially help people scroll through these threads faster and just see the positives and negatives (rather than the "I'm 50% done with my upload" comments - not to disparage such comments, but many folks just want to know specifics about the leak, not updates on one's particular progress installing the leak).
I hate to derail this thread, but as OP starter I would like to say a few words.
First of all, we do actually update the OP with certain new finds/issues and the solution if there is one. That being said, it's simply not possible to update it with every question that's asked in here and even if we do, it will only have a limited impact on how these threads develop. This is for a couple of reasons.
- Not everyone reads the first post to begin with. Not everyone who runs into an issue checks it to see if it's in there. We still get a number of repeated questions on each leak that are actually answered in the OP.
- There are a lot of people who basically create hybrids themselves from a new leak and some older bars. This creates different conditions, different issues and different results or answers. A lot of these questions end up in this thread because it's the 'main' OS they are using, but their issues and the answers to them are not relevant to everyone who loads this leak.
- Going on in the same vein, conditions can also be different based on what model of a device one uses, what carrier one uses or what apps are installed. Again, creating a situation where issue X might arrise, but only in an environment of device Y + app or carrier Z, just to give an example.
- A new OS still takes some time to settle in. There are a number of questions that come up during that period, but that are actually resolved by itself once the device has settled in. Prime example being battery life, but there have been other situations where this applies. Therefore these are not considered 'issues' on a leak.
- One practical reason; there is actually a limit to how long a post can be. So far we haven't exceeded it, but if we had to add each question + answer to the OP we soon would.
- This reason does not apply to everyone of course, but a super long Q&A in the OP can actually discourage people from reading it. They see a long long post and decide it's much easier to post their question, rather than to search or read the entire thing. We try to keep it as short and to the point as possible, while still including the issues that will have the highest impact and the most frequently asked questions.
- Lastly, again practical... there are so many apps people use, either from BB World or sideloaded, and then they even use different apk/bar files as well for their sideloaded apps. It is impractical if not impossible to list all questions related to those in the OP.
We do the best we can with the means we have. Most of us have jobs, a family life or both outside of CrackBerry and the BerryLeaks group. Most of us use our own personal devices and accounts to load and test these leaks, to test for issues with apps or features. We all do volunteer our time to be able to provide you with these leaks and help. We do this with love and passion, but there are limits to what we can do. We try and take as much responsibility for these leaks as we can by providing the leaks and support wherever we can, but in the end this is not our job; we are not on BlackBerry's payroll, we have some sources but for the most part work without inside information or support and all of this during our own free time.
There was a time when leaks for legacy devices were provided without any information apart from what OS it was. It was all up to us to figure it all out without any support or change logs etc. I think we have come a long way from that and I can assure you we continue to try and do better with every leak, but unlimited resources or time we have not.
I hope this clears things up a little bit for you.
Now, that's that. On to discussing the leak itself people
08-29-13 08:57 AM - I'll challenge that assertion - I've had the bad luck to deal with several IT guys who immediately claim any problem is caused by the end user, even when confronted with printed out KB data...so no, I don't find it THAT impressive for an IT guy.
Completely off topic, but if you find an IT guy in your organization that listens and actually FIXES problems, cultivate them! Buy them lunch at least once a month. It'll be worth it many times over!08-29-13 09:09 AM
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