BBM vs. WhatsApp

I brag about how great my BlackBerry is to everyone and that they are blind but I have a. Problem with BBM. I tried to start a group chat and had my iPhone and Android buddies install BBM on their phones but it would not allow them to delete the chats on their end when they may have needed to. Or maybe it was the pictures. Ok it was a chat that rated the hottest chick's so they didn't want to get caught lol. It lacks controls is the bottom line. We were forced to use WhatsApp and it accommodated our needs fine.
Last night my wife pointed out that she could go in a section in her Phone that congregated all the photos in their conversations in one place. I thought BBM did that? Not finding this on my BlackBerry Passport. I know my Passport does it with our WhatsApp pictures so why not BBM?

Does anyone have knowledge of this and if it can be done with the pictures and or have any other gripes about how BlackBerry is letting their bread and butter slide? I swear the old BlackBerry OS style phones did keep the pics all in one place for the whole conversations. Pretty sure....

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I find you post extremely hard to understand the unpleasant to read. Please redraft in clear and concise English.

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Originally Posted by BeetrootJulip

I find you post extremely hard to understand the unpleasant to read. Please redraft in clear and concise English.

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He wants to say where BBM Chat pictures store. He did not find any location or folder like whats app for BBM.

Click the three vertical dots on the right side when looking at your pictures and decide where you want to store it.

WhatsApp just stores the pictures on your device and you have to do housekeeping here and then.

I appreciate that BBM allow me to control where stuff goes on my device (or on the SD card).

FWIW

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I suggest you to learn the difference between bbm group chat and bbm multiperson chat

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Very little competition, whatsapp has clearly leap frogged BBM in how it handles things and works, BBM has little going for it relative to whatsapp.

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One word comes to mind. Security.

BBM traffic is encrypted and travels through Blackberry servers. (If I'm incorrect let me know).

Whaaaaa

Always happy to help!

Originally Posted by The_Passporter

I brag about how great my BlackBerry is to everyone and that they are blind but I have a. Problem with BBM. I tried to start a group chat and had my iPhone and Android buddies install BBM on their phones but it would not allow them to delete the chats on their end when they may have needed to. Or maybe it was the pictures. Ok it was a chat that rated the hottest chick's so they didn't want to get caught lol. It lacks controls is the bottom line. We were forced to use WhatsApp and it accommodated our needs fine.
Last night my wife pointed out that she could go in a section in her Phone that congregated all the photos in their conversations in one place. I thought BBM did that? Not finding this on my BlackBerry Passport. I know my Passport does it with our WhatsApp pictures so why not BBM?

Does anyone have knowledge of this and if it can be done with the pictures and or have any other gripes about how BlackBerry is letting their bread and butter slide? I swear the old BlackBerry OS style phones did keep the pics all in one place for the whole conversations. Pretty sure....

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With pictures.. BBM does the same but does it within the app which I wish whatsapp did. Whatsapp downloads the picture to your phone which I hate. Especially if it's a dodgy picture like your group must have. Once you open up your pictures the picture is there for everyone to see. I really wish whatsapp would adopt the BBM way cos I've opened up my pictures album to show a friend one and a naughty picture is right there for them to see.

For deleting chats.. they have to select END CHAT. When the open bbm no need to enter the chat itself. Just long press on it in the list of all messages and select END CHAT.

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Originally Posted by The_Passporter

I brag about how great my BlackBerry is to everyone and that they are blind but I have a. Problem with BBM. I tried to start a group chat and had my iPhone and Android buddies install BBM on their phones but it would not allow them to delete the chats on their end when they may have needed to. Or maybe it was the pictures. Ok it was a chat that rated the hottest chick's so they didn't want to get caught lol. It lacks controls is the bottom line. We were forced to use WhatsApp and it accommodated our needs fine.
Last night my wife pointed out that she could go in a section in her Phone that congregated all the photos in their conversations in one place. I thought BBM did that? Not finding this on my BlackBerry Passport. I know my Passport does it with our WhatsApp pictures so why not BBM?

Does anyone have knowledge of this and if it can be done with the pictures and or have any other gripes about how BlackBerry is letting their bread and butter slide? I swear the old BlackBerry OS style phones did keep the pics all in one place for the whole conversations. Pretty sure....

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I hope BBM doesn't implement what you're asking for. I wouldn't want to have the pics shared on BBM to appear on my file manager or pictures section. Just in the BBM app.

I know you're worried about group chats, but
nothing better than a quick "end chat" in a one-on-one chat to make images in that chat magically disappear from the device lol

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Yeah, I don't know if you really want BBM to work any differently than it already does... I suppose it would be alright if they implemented an option to auto-save pictures and allowed you to specify the folder but it's actually nice not having to worry about crappy pictures that your contacts share with you just for kicks starting to crowd your picture folders. This way you only save the ones that you want to keep and you choose where to save them. I don't really see a problem.

I do wish that the HD photos didn't show as a new post but rather overlayed the original photo send. That's a bit off-topic though...

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Originally Posted by stefanbechen

WhatsApp just stores the pictures on your device and you have to do housekeeping here and then.

Do you use WhatsApp at all?

Here is what happens. WhatsApp stores the photos and videos in the same location whether on the device or media card. The main folder's location remains the same day after day, in other words it is not like the main folder is here on Monday, there on Tuesday or over there on Wednesday, etc.

Now, within this main folder there are sub folders for each month where the photos and videos are allocated to. So when you open the Pictures app, you get to see that WhatsApp has been optimized to organize these photos and videos to take advantage of the Picture app's management. This is what WhatsApp is good at, hopefully this is clear enough for you to see.

Originally Posted by Bishkin

Do you use WhatsApp at all?

Here is what happens. WhatsApp stores the photos and videos in the same location whether on the device or media card. The main folder's location remains the same day after day, in other words it is not like the main folder is here on Monday, there on Tuesday or over there on Wednesday, etc.

Now, within this main folder there are sub folders for each month where the photos and videos are allocated to. So when you open the Pictures app, you get to see that WhatsApp has been optimized to organize these photos and videos to take advantage of the Picture app's management. This is what WhatsApp is good at, hopefully this is clear enough for you to see.

Super clear to see and everyone saw it the same way from the start. Organizing in folders and the management of such isn't the issue we're talking about here.

The "housekeeping" is the having to get rid of those images from the device. Having the images only be within the BBM is the way some of us prefer.
If having an image appear on the file system, then we have the option to "save" it.

I'm all for improving BBM and having it get cool new features. I personally, just hope it doesn't go down this route.

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Originally Posted by jope28

I hope BBM doesn't implement what you're asking for. I wouldn't want to have the pics shared on BBM to appear on my file manager or pictures section. Just in the BBM app.

I know you're worried about group chats, but
nothing better than a quick "end chat" in a one-on-one chat to make images in that chat magically disappear from the device lol

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Oh I see. I've been looking for the option with single chats and had only had a multi person chat setup briefly but that was a long time ago. And yes if it does congregate the pictures in one place I too would prefer to have it within the app. I don't know why it wouldn't do this for single chats?

And Thank you you all for understanding my crappy post and explaining. Much appreciated!

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Originally Posted by jope28

The "housekeeping" is the having to get rid of those images from the device. Having the images only be within the BBM is the way some of us prefer.
If having an image appear on the file system, then we have the option to "save" it.

Housekeeping photos is still best done by the Picture app, unless one can tell from the file name what that picture is and the app that saves the picture allows you to also give the picture a meaningful name. But if one prefers the picture to be embedded as part of a message, that would be a good way of hiding porn I guess. It could be a different story altogether when you deal with a set of photos.

Ok so question: I can't remember exactly what the problem was but when in a group chat can members of the chat delete their side of the chat or the pictures for good? I do know we had an issue and only the admin of the chat could do it. This is why we had to resort to WhatsApp


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Originally Posted by BeetrootJulip

I find you post extremely hard to understand the unpleasant to read. Please redraft in clear and concise English.

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I suggest you consider ... Blackberry devices are sold and used on a global scale, and that our thread op's first language may NOT be English and their doing the very best they can. Let's see you type a cohesive clear and concise topic in Swahele?! (spelled wrong but for attention you may catch my drift).

Originally Posted by The_Passporter

Ok so question: I can't remember exactly what the problem was but when in a group chat can members of the chat delete their side of the chat or the pictures for good? I do know we had an issue and only the admin of the chat could do it. This is why we had to resort to WhatsApp


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Not an admin of this BBM group and I have shared a photo with them.. and I can delete it not only for me. HTH :)

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Yes but that's a picture you shared and delete. What about pictures from others? I guess that is the concern.

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Originally Posted by Gray

One word comes to mind. Security.

BBM traffic is encrypted and travels through Blackberry servers. (If I'm incorrect let me know).

Paid service now, I'm sure they're doing the same as competition with the data that runs through it now.

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Originally Posted by Gray

One word comes to mind. Security.

BBM traffic is encrypted and travels through Blackberry servers. (If I'm incorrect let me know).

LOL, so you've bought into the BlackBerry security hype, but then really aren't sure?

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Originally Posted by The_Passporter

Yes but that's a picture you shared and delete. What about pictures from others? I guess that is the concern.

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Yes it's possible since bbos (5,6, and 7) days. Not my picture but I can delete it.

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